From pctl at oakapple.net  Sun Nov  7 21:25:22 2021
From: pctl at oakapple.net (David Hough reading PCT-L)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 19:25:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [pct-l] nimblewill
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This may be old news to most, but not to me

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-environment-and-nature-alabama-maine-07890eda2a8dc653bb69c68629e20a8f

From pctl at oakapple.net  Sun Nov  7 22:23:25 2021
From: pctl at oakapple.net (David Hough reading PCT-L)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 20:23:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [pct-l] more thoughts on nimblewill
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After I posted, I wondered - what about Grandma Gatewood?    Or Billygoat?

And at the other end - what does it mean to say a five year old hiked the AT?
How much adult help is allowed climbing up and down the rough parts?

Still they are all remarkable accomplishments.

From marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  8 11:14:58 2021
From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com (marmot marmot)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 17:14:58 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] more thoughts on nimblewill
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> On Nov 8, 2021, at 5:54 AM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Or Peace Pilgrim the first woman (that we know of) to thru-hike the AT. At least 3 years before Grandma Gatewood. 
> It?s not unusual to see older hikers out there doing trails. And at this point tiny younger hikers too. The only thing that I have found to be different for me as I get older is that I can?t just jump onto a trail at the last minute with no physical preparation. I get injured and then end up having to do shorter miles and hurt at every step. Now I do specific exercises every day so when it?s hiking weather I?m ready. And there?s no strapping gallons of water on my back and thinking I?m able to be a pack horse. I have to be a bit more sensible. 
> Marmot
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 8:23 PM, David Hough reading PCT-L <pctl at oakapple.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> After I posted, I wondered - what about Grandma Gatewood?    Or Billygoat?
>> 
>> And at the other end - what does it mean to say a five year old hiked the AT?
>> How much adult help is allowed climbing up and down the rough parts?
>> 
>> Still they are all remarkable accomplishments.
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From mrjenn at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  8 14:39:19 2021
From: mrjenn at hotmail.com (william jennings)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 20:39:19 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 146, Issue 1
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Was "Peace Pilgrim" ~ Mildred Norman, 1952?  Emma Rowena Caldwell "Grandma" Gatewood, 1955, 1957 and 1964.

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 19:25:22 -0800 (PST)
From: David Hough reading PCT-L <pctl at oakapple.net>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] nimblewill
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This may be old news to most, but not to me

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-environment-and-nature-alabama-maine-07890eda2a8dc653bb69c68629e20a8f


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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 20:23:25 -0800 (PST)
From: David Hough reading PCT-L <pctl at oakapple.net>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] more thoughts on nimblewill
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After I posted, I wondered - what about Grandma Gatewood?    Or Billygoat?

And at the other end - what does it mean to say a five year old hiked the AT?
How much adult help is allowed climbing up and down the rough parts?

Still they are all remarkable accomplishments.


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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 17:14:58 +0000
From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
To: David Hough reading PCT-L <pctl at oakapple.net>, PCT
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2021, at 5:54 AM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?Or Peace Pilgrim the first woman (that we know of) to thru-hike the AT. At least 3 years before Grandma Gatewood.
> It?s not unusual to see older hikers out there doing trails. And at this point tiny younger hikers too. The only thing that I have found to be different for me as I get older is that I can?t just jump onto a trail at the last minute with no physical preparation. I get injured and then end up having to do shorter miles and hurt at every step. Now I do specific exercises every day so when it?s hiking weather I?m ready. And there?s no strapping gallons of water on my back and thinking I?m able to be a pack horse. I have to be a bit more sensible.
> Marmot
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 8:23 PM, David Hough reading PCT-L <pctl at oakapple.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> After I posted, I wondered - what about Grandma Gatewood?    Or Billygoat?
>>
>> And at the other end - what does it mean to say a five year old hiked the AT?
>> How much adult help is allowed climbing up and down the rough parts?
>>
>> Still they are all remarkable accomplishments.
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From tumstead96 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  8 16:05:08 2021
From: tumstead96 at gmail.com (Tim Umstead)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 14:05:08 -0800
Subject: [pct-l]  more thoughts on nimblewill
Message-ID: <CAD3yqM3D6g60xFEi6on2m+ae40SK4Am92c=m-k4mibWCnr9wYw@mail.gmail.com>

As to young kids and hiking.  My kids have hiked every year of their
lives.  They are currently 16 and 20.

When they each turned 5 we took them on a 50 mile loop around the Three
Sisters.  It was the first trip they got to carry a pack.  It was a small
day sack with their clothes and a bit of food.  A five year old has
plenty of endurance.  We did about 10 miles a day.  I would say that at the
end of the day we would have to empty all the sticks and rocks out of my
son's pack.  He collected throughout the day.  Kids are tough and they can
go a lot longer than we can.

My daughter was 7 when she did the JMT for the first time.  She carried all
the normal gear we did, clothes, sleeping bag, insolite pad, half the tent
she and her brother used, cook kit and food.  It is easy hiking with them.
They have no fear.

For completeness, the kids have over 10,000 miles backpacking experience.
They both have completed the Triple Crown.  PCT in 2015 (ages 10, 13), CDT
2017 (12, 15) and AT in 2019 (14, 17).

Get them out young.
Start them hiking.
They will go forever.

Papa Raven

From baidarker at gmail.com  Mon Nov  8 18:15:07 2021
From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 16:15:07 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] more thoughts on nimblewill
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Me too!  I train all winter now in the Bay Area, (happens to be the best
hiking weather of the year for us) so that my summers can be pain and
injury free.  I didn't need to be so consistent when I was younger.  Now,
it's keep in shape, or else!

Shroomer

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 9:15 AM marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 8, 2021, at 5:54 AM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Or Peace Pilgrim the first woman (that we know of) to thru-hike the AT.
> At least 3 years before Grandma Gatewood.
> > It?s not unusual to see older hikers out there doing trails. And at this
> point tiny younger hikers too. The only thing that I have found to be
> different for me as I get older is that I can?t just jump onto a trail at
> the last minute with no physical preparation. I get injured and then end up
> having to do shorter miles and hurt at every step. Now I do specific
> exercises every day so when it?s hiking weather I?m ready. And there?s no
> strapping gallons of water on my back and thinking I?m able to be a pack
> horse. I have to be a bit more sensible.
> > Marmot
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 7, 2021, at 8:23 PM, David Hough reading PCT-L <
> pctl at oakapple.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?
> >> After I posted, I wondered - what about Grandma Gatewood?    Or
> Billygoat?
> >>
> >> And at the other end - what does it mean to say a five year old hiked
> the AT?
> >> How much adult help is allowed climbing up and down the rough parts?
> >>
> >> Still they are all remarkable accomplishments.
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From baidarker at gmail.com  Mon Nov  8 22:44:06 2021
From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 20:44:06 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] more thoughts on nimblewill
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Way to go Papa Raven!  I had my daughter kayaking in BC at age 4 and up, in
the Broken Group, and Bowron Lakes among other places, and backpacking in
CA by the time she was 6, but not the Triple Crown!  Way to go!!!

Shroomer

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 2:05 PM Tim Umstead <tumstead96 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As to young kids and hiking.  My kids have hiked every year of their
> lives.  They are currently 16 and 20.
>
> When they each turned 5 we took them on a 50 mile loop around the Three
> Sisters.  It was the first trip they got to carry a pack.  It was a small
> day sack with their clothes and a bit of food.  A five year old has
> plenty of endurance.  We did about 10 miles a day.  I would say that at the
> end of the day we would have to empty all the sticks and rocks out of my
> son's pack.  He collected throughout the day.  Kids are tough and they can
> go a lot longer than we can.
>
> My daughter was 7 when she did the JMT for the first time.  She carried all
> the normal gear we did, clothes, sleeping bag, insolite pad, half the tent
> she and her brother used, cook kit and food.  It is easy hiking with them.
> They have no fear.
>
> For completeness, the kids have over 10,000 miles backpacking experience.
> They both have completed the Triple Crown.  PCT in 2015 (ages 10, 13), CDT
> 2017 (12, 15) and AT in 2019 (14, 17).
>
> Get them out young.
> Start them hiking.
> They will go forever.
>
> Papa Raven
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From roberte3 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 28 11:55:02 2021
From: roberte3 at gmail.com (roberte3 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 20:55:02 +0300
Subject: [pct-l] How's it going Pct L?
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