[pct-l] Marmot

[Jeffrey Olson]

I was hiking along the CDT in the Winds in September, 2011 and ran 
across the Bear Creek Survey party.  I believe they were finishing up 
surveying the trail that year.

It was Jerry Brown and two helpers, one of whom carried the big GPS 
antenna.  An older guy and two strong younger persons, a man and woman 
if I remember correctly.  The amount of detail they were recording was 
impressive.  A couple years ago I hiked from Crazy Crook north.  I'd 
check the guthook track and cairns on the top of the little ridges, the 
50' up and down that's wearying.  The app was within 10' every time.

All that said, I got lost in the early oughts just south or north of 
the  Wyoming/Colorado border.  I had to drop down a ridge and up 
another, all in mostly forest.  No trail, no ribbons in trees, no 
nothing.  An interesting three hours, hot sweaty and bothered... The 
trail is a living thing and part of the adventure is there is no trail 
sometimes.

In 1992 hiking south from Lassen we kept running into clear cuts. My 
girlfriend got really good at looking at the topo, the forest a quarter 
mile away, at the topo, and back and forth.  She located the trail every 
time to like within 50'.  After that she did the map reading.

JEff

On 7/14/2020 1:08 PM, Tim Umstead wrote:
> Just a thought on Bear Creek waypoints being off.  Yes they can and will
> be.  No one is out there every year updating them.  That being said
> Guthook's app will be off also.  Guthook does not go out and replot
> waypoints for every trail they have for their app.  They just use someone
> else's waypoints.  For the CDT Guthook uses Bear Creeks data.  It is quite
> obvious because in 2017 Guthook's waypoints began have Bear Creek numbering
> in the info, ie. 14_175MC.  So if Bear Creek data is off Guthook's app will
> be off.  I think Guthook picked up Halfmile's waypoint several years ago.
> Just remember Guthook is an app that uses someone else's data and then
> charges a lot for the privilege.  That being said we still used that app on
> the CDT and we made it from Mexico to Canada.
>
> A side comment on the app working in areas beyond the waypoints.  In 2017
> Montana had over 1,000,000 acres burn.  We had hundreds of miles of
> reroutes around the fires.  In town I would have the app download maps
> around the area we were going to hike. This way I was still able to use the
> app and follow the roads around the fires.
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