From susan at newstories.org  Mon Feb  4 20:52:48 2019
From: susan at newstories.org (Susan Virnig)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 16:52:48 -1000
Subject: [pct-l] advice on sections D, E, F
Message-ID: <C2ED06D6-238E-4C48-8145-F44AA4F9EA45@newstories.org>

Dear Hikers,

I?m a long-time section hiker who?s walked from Echo Lakes to Manning Provincial Park, and Campo to Paradise Valley Cafe, now looking to cover some more ground.

I?m hoping to do about a month of section hiking starting around March 24.  Just checked the Sierra snowpack and found it?s 100% of normal ? does that also apply to the southern CA mountain ranges?

If they will all be snow-covered, rather than finish Section B, and get into Section C and D ? all of which have 9000' sections, I?m thinking about starting around Highway 2 which crosses the PCT about 46 miles into Section D at 6700? or when it re-crosses the PCT 10 miles later at 6800? and then go into Sections E & F.  What do you think?  Here are some questions:

1.  Is Highway 2 a good place to get a ride to or is it off in the middle of nowhere?
2.  Is that 50-60 mile stretch of the PCT ending in Agua Dulce likely  to be snow-free the end of March?  Or if not, is it still relatively ok to hike?
3.  Or is it better to just start at Agua Dulce and head straight into E & F?
4.  Any idea if there will be other hikers in that part of Section D, then into E and F on the trail at that time, or will they all be closer to Campo?
5.  I know I?m not supposed to count on water caches, but would any be maintained in late March/early April?
6.  Other thoughts or advice?

?Sunshine (Susan from Spokane)

From artcimento at msn.com  Tue Feb  5 00:03:04 2019
From: artcimento at msn.com (Arthur Cimento)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 06:03:04 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] advice on sections D, E, F
In-Reply-To: <C2ED06D6-238E-4C48-8145-F44AA4F9EA45@newstories.org>
References: <C2ED06D6-238E-4C48-8145-F44AA4F9EA45@newstories.org>
Message-ID: <DM5PR22MB05070F6A9BBE9E21920074E6D56E0@DM5PR22MB0507.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Susan

I've section hiked C,D,E, and F three or four years ago. Almost all of it was in the late-March to early-May timeframe, so here are my answers based on what I experienced:

1) Highway 2 is well-traveled (relatively speaking) but there are really no services along that stretch. Trailhead parking (eg, Mt Baden Powell) was busy. However, if starting section D, why not use Cajon Pass - I started at the Best Western, who let me leave my car there for the hike.
2) I think all of C, D, E and F will be snow free in the time frame you're planning. Looking at my pictures, there was only a few snow patches along the high sections of C, which would not be of concern for any experienced hiker. On the contrary, some of these sections are very hot even by that time frame (C out of Whitewater, E through the Mojave) and you would want to get them done certainly before May.
3) Agua Dulce sets you up for E (see above)
4) I didn't see the pack in these sections until May. I did see the random thru hiker frequently enough. Parts of Section D close to highway 2 get a lot of day hikers as does  Deep Canyon in C. Section F was very lonely - I saw only two other people in the 6 days I was on that section and there aren't many road crossings. Of course, more thru hikers are starting earlier so this may have changed.
5) Water caches were hit and miss - some owners said they were surprised that someone was at their cache that early. Section F requires careful water management - I self cached at two road crossings and I was glad I did. The springs in F are terrible.

As I'm sure you know, each year is different. You can probably get an idea of the snow pack by checking conditions at the Big Bear and Wrightwood ski areas (section D runs along the top of the latter, and the high points of C are roughly at the same elevation as Big Bear).

Regards,
Art


________________________________
From: Pct-L <pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net> on behalf of Susan Virnig <susan at newstories.org>
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 6:52 PM
To: <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: [pct-l] advice on sections D, E, F

Dear Hikers,

I?m a long-time section hiker who?s walked from Echo Lakes to Manning Provincial Park, and Campo to Paradise Valley Cafe, now looking to cover some more ground.

I?m hoping to do about a month of section hiking starting around March 24.  Just checked the Sierra snowpack and found it?s 100% of normal ? does that also apply to the southern CA mountain ranges?

If they will all be snow-covered, rather than finish Section B, and get into Section C and D ? all of which have 9000' sections, I?m thinking about starting around Highway 2 which crosses the PCT about 46 miles into Section D at 6700? or when it re-crosses the PCT 10 miles later at 6800? and then go into Sections E & F.  What do you think?  Here are some questions:

1.  Is Highway 2 a good place to get a ride to or is it off in the middle of nowhere?
2.  Is that 50-60 mile stretch of the PCT ending in Agua Dulce likely  to be snow-free the end of March?  Or if not, is it still relatively ok to hike?
3.  Or is it better to just start at Agua Dulce and head straight into E & F?
4.  Any idea if there will be other hikers in that part of Section D, then into E and F on the trail at that time, or will they all be closer to Campo?
5.  I know I?m not supposed to count on water caches, but would any be maintained in late March/early April?
6.  Other thoughts or advice?

?Sunshine (Susan from Spokane)
_______________________________________________
Pct-L mailing list
Pct-L at backcountry.net
To unsubscribe, or change options visit:
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.backcountry.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpct-l&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C3f1d11a46ca54cfae73808d68b262909%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636849393343912496&amp;sdata=sedmDxbgZHmYRIiw1FCqjF7HPdGbDGz2alqgY%2BvCNuA%3D&amp;reserved=0

List Archives:
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.backcountry.net%2Fpipermail%2Fpct-l%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C3f1d11a46ca54cfae73808d68b262909%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636849393343922501&amp;sdata=yozG1qf9QUvux%2BSGjRGWH3O2pz446FB2KyRnyz5iG%2BU%3D&amp;reserved=0
All content is copyrighted by the respective authors.
Reproduction is prohibited without express permission.

From gary at hbfun.org  Tue Feb  5 11:31:18 2019
From: gary at hbfun.org (Gary Schenk)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2019 09:31:18 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] advice on sections D, E, F
In-Reply-To: <C2ED06D6-238E-4C48-8145-F44AA4F9EA45@newstories.org>
References: <C2ED06D6-238E-4C48-8145-F44AA4F9EA45@newstories.org>
Message-ID: <d3f7bd6f102d621588f6c8eb50db51b8.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com>

Good morning, Sunshine!

On Mon, February 4, 2019 6:52 pm, Susan Virnig wrote:

> I?m hoping to do about a month of section hiking starting around March 24.
>  Just checked the Sierra snowpack and found it?s 100% of normal ? does
> that also apply to the southern CA mountain ranges?

Yes, we've just had a week of rain and snow higher up. The future is
anybody's guess. Last week, before this big storm, the snow level in the
San Gabriels looked to be around 8000'. (My guesstimate from hiking in the
front range and looking at the high country)

> If they will all be snow-covered, rather than finish Section B, and get
> into Section C and D ? all of which have 9000' sections, I?m thinking
> about starting around Highway 2 which crosses the PCT about 46 miles into
> Section D at 6700? or when it re-crosses the PCT 10 miles later at 6800?
> and then go into Sections E & F.  What do you think?  Here are some
> questions:

My guess is that this year they'll be snow at 7000' on north facing
aspects for sure at the end of March.

> 1.  Is Highway 2 a good place to get a ride to or is it off in the middle
> of nowhere?

You could Uber or taxi there.

> 2.  Is that 50-60 mile stretch of the PCT ending in Agua Dulce likely  to
> be snow-free the end of March?  Or if not, is it still relatively ok to
> hike?

Once you get north of Mt. Gleason you'd be out of the snow, I think.

> 3.  Or is it better to just start at Agua Dulce and head straight into E &
> F?

That's what I'd do.

> 4.  Any idea if there will be other hikers in that part of Section D, then
> into E and F on the trail at that time, or will they all be closer to
> Campo?

Nowadays, no telling. We met thrus in Section F in early April last year.

> 5.  I know I?m not supposed to count on water caches, but would any be
> maintained in late March/early April?

You won't need caches in March, IMO.

> 6.  Other thoughts or advice?

The Piute range in Section F is high, 8000'+/- and there's a possibility
of fairly heavy snow in April up there. Last year was very dry and we had
no problems hiking in April then. This year might be different.

Good luck!

Gary



From marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 13 14:33:41 2019
From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com (marmot marmot)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:33:41 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Rucks
Message-ID: <BYAPR04MB55739726EF01748BB50E9A2EC8660@BYAPR04MB5573.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Anyone who wants to learn how to do a long distance trail---check out the ALDHAwest Rucks. 
The Oakland Ruck was sold out. 
There are four more coming in different locations. See the ALDHAwest website. 
One day intensive concerning all info needed for a long hike
Marmot

Sent from my iPhone

From marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 13 14:34:41 2019
From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com (marmot marmot)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:34:41 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: New Ruck formats! Sign up today!
In-Reply-To: <1.f7726838a5f6111c1ccc@live-mail-10>
References: <1.f7726838a5f6111c1ccc@live-mail-10>
Message-ID: <BYAPR04MB5573A5F1741E82D85E03080BC8660@BYAPR04MB5573.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>



Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

From: ALDHA-West <admin at aldhawest.org<mailto:admin at aldhawest.org>>
Date: February 13, 2019 at 10:02:07 AM PST
To: Marmot Moore <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com<mailto:marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>>
Subject: New Ruck formats! Sign up today!
Reply-To: Kate Hoch <secretary at aldhawest.org<mailto:secretary at aldhawest.org>>


[http://www.aldhawest.org/resources/Pictures/aldhalogo.png]




Have you signed up for a Ruck yet?

On January 26, we had our first Ruck of the season in Oakland, CA. It was a great day of learning from one another, and sharing our experience and knowledge about long distance hiking with beginning backpackers and thru-hiking veterans!  It was also our first ever SOLD OUT Ruck!!

Be sure to register on our website to reserve your space!

Cascade Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-3146174>
Stevenson, WA (very close to Cascade Locks, OR!)
February 23, 2019

Rockies Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-3139750>
Golden, CO
March 9, 2019

Bellingham Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-3162378>
Bellingham, WA
March 23, 2019

Inland NW Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-3176313>
Hayden, ID
April 9, 2019


Based on feedback from past events, the remainder of this year's Rucks will be primarily using small group breakout sessions for a more personal and interactive experience for our participants.

You'll have the opportunity to pick the topics you're most interested in and attend multiple small group sessions throughout the day.  See example schedule from our next Ruck

8:00 ? 8:45 am Arrival, Check In, Coffee & Bagels

8:45 ? 9:00 am President's Welcome

9:00 ? 9:45 am How Not to Die

9:45 ? 10:00 am Break

10:00 ? 10:40 am Breakout Sessions 1 (Pick your topic of choice from list below)

10:40 ? 11:20 am Breakout Session 2 (Pick your topic of choice from list below)

11:20 ? 12:00 pm Breakout Session 3 (Pick your topic of choice from list below)

Breakout Topic Choices:

Pack shakedowns

Navigation/maps/apps

Lightweight gear & hiking styles

Food, nutrition, resupply

Women's specific

Self-care on trail

12:00 ? 1:00 pm Pizza Lunch & Used gear sale

1:00 ? 1:30 pm Leave No Trace

1:30 ? 2:00 pm Food, Nutrition, and Resupply

2:00 ? 2:40 pm Breakout Session 4

2:40 ? 3:20 pm Breakout Session 4

3:20 ? 4:00 pm Breakout Session 4

Breakout Topic Choices:

Finances - budgeting and funding your hike

Reentry after your hike

Pacific Northwest Trail

Pacific Crest Trail

Oregon Desert Trail

Continental Divide Trail

John Muir Trail

Wonderland Trail

4:00 ? onward Final Closure & Raffle

Social hour offsite


Hope to see you there!








Copyright ? 2019 ALDHA-West. All rights reserved.
Contact email: secretary at aldhawest.org<mailto:secretary at aldhawest.org>

You are receiving this message because you opted in at http://www.aldhawest.org/<http://www.aldhawest.org>

Unsubscribe<http://www.aldhawest.org/Sys/Unsubscribe?et=Xu6HCCyvaIW13FFSZ61Ni72xnzxaPhJkyGzc5MaIQ14XGd3MUomdpEOvdsE%2f0qoSE%2bCI8AgBIMdTTCizUkF30tBZg1R2XJu4KE0u6vZy%2baUT0zTSuWjTu5%2bB7c3iU4iJPMbGZO2Fiw6x4eZQyRoh5Y2PSwA8ZTifq%2f20HOxCbFDot90v>






Unsubscribe<http://www.aldhawest.org/Sys/Unsubscribe?et=seoYTrBg7dzU5AZcI9R3ZMgU22SS8RaKZKzmcya02ApmzIYOrkqr9M%2f%2fionm2QR%2bhiztNk6ibzaK%2b41%2bVZ%2fUWLlQ%2bXTW0o82pTaF1gpNKj0I868WvMyUonwVb9BaHAiAoCJW0yxfAXAV3yEcfSIRHCiJmHRpH7l%2bWp5585LgWq8swx7e>

From brick at brickrobbins.com  Mon Feb 18 11:40:12 2019
From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:40:12 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Snow in the Lagunas
Message-ID: <CALV1Nz=xCwHgckQ2--VPABR8_62kueLPYab1mxBo63KbgQxiuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Live Webcam from Mt. Laguna
http://hpwren.ucsd.edu/cameras/MtLaguna.html

Snow tonight down to 2,500' - Sunrise Hwy closed from I-8 to Julian
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/weather/sd-me-sandiego-annualrainfall-20190217-story.html

From gary at hbfun.org  Mon Feb 18 20:32:25 2019
From: gary at hbfun.org (Gary Schenk)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 18:32:25 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Snow in the Lagunas
In-Reply-To: <CALV1Nz=xCwHgckQ2--VPABR8_62kueLPYab1mxBo63KbgQxiuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALV1Nz=xCwHgckQ2--VPABR8_62kueLPYab1mxBo63KbgQxiuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45b4567b967162e4ff1d78dd817de7c5.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com>

Yesterday there was snow in Mojave!

On Mon, February 18, 2019 9:40 am, Brick Robbins wrote:
> Live Webcam from Mt. Laguna
> http://hpwren.ucsd.edu/cameras/MtLaguna.html
>
> Snow tonight down to 2,500' - Sunrise Hwy closed from I-8 to Julian
> https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/weather/sd-me-sandiego-annualrainfall-20190217-story.html


From weathercarrot at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 19 14:05:58 2019
From: weathercarrot at hotmail.com (Weathercarrot -)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 20:05:58 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] current sierra snowpack
In-Reply-To: <DM3PR13MB0799DF20F01E007A136DEA2AAE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM3PR13MB0799DF20F01E007A136DEA2AAE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <DM3PR13MB0799DC8075A6E8C62AF6F378AE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

Sierra snowpack is now above 150% as of Feb 19th.

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/reportapp/javareports?name=PLOT_SWC

From baidarker at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 16:29:01 2019
From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 14:29:01 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] current sierra snowpack
In-Reply-To: <DM3PR13MB0799DC8075A6E8C62AF6F378AE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM3PR13MB0799DF20F01E007A136DEA2AAE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
 <DM3PR13MB0799DC8075A6E8C62AF6F378AE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAGxcj12q92068LH0q6FCrk=gd14WbfVaMXiyJ2raY3AMrnXenA@mail.gmail.com>

Holy smokes Weathercarrot!  Good chance it's gonna be one heck of a year.

Shroomer

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:06 PM Weathercarrot - <weathercarrot at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Sierra snowpack is now above 150% as of Feb 19th.
>
> https://cdec.water.ca.gov/reportapp/javareports?name=PLOT_SWC
> _______________________________________________
> Pct-L mailing list
> Pct-L at backcountry.net
> To unsubscribe, or change options visit:
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
>
> List Archives:
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/
> All content is copyrighted by the respective authors.
> Reproduction is prohibited without express permission.
>

From brick at brickrobbins.com  Tue Feb 19 16:42:02 2019
From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 14:42:02 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] current sierra snowpack
In-Reply-To: <DM3PR13MB0799DC8075A6E8C62AF6F378AE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM3PR13MB0799DF20F01E007A136DEA2AAE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
 <DM3PR13MB0799DC8075A6E8C62AF6F378AE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CALV1NzkZ2VLQ6MwjS7-Zf7Vex6zAKZFtBz56WLTgnVhgCa-A=A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:06 PM Weathercarrot -
<weathercarrot at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sierra snowpack is now above 150% as of Feb 19th.
> https://cdec.water.ca.gov/reportapp/javareports?name=PLOT_SWC

I must be reading this wrong. I see between 104% and 123%. Where does
150% come from?

From catherine.middaugh at gmail.com  Tue Feb 19 19:14:29 2019
From: catherine.middaugh at gmail.com (Catherine Middaugh)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 17:14:29 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] current sierra snowpack
In-Reply-To: <CALV1NzkZ2VLQ6MwjS7-Zf7Vex6zAKZFtBz56WLTgnVhgCa-A=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DM3PR13MB0799DF20F01E007A136DEA2AAE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
 <DM3PR13MB0799DC8075A6E8C62AF6F378AE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
 <CALV1NzkZ2VLQ6MwjS7-Zf7Vex6zAKZFtBz56WLTgnVhgCa-A=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKnKeQJxTKeTdoKq1ZvMTKwpkg7i9Y+mHeOf-Q=sTA_4TPYR-g@mail.gmail.com>

The blue line on the graph---the one that's not complete---is 2019. I think
the 150% is for the 2016-2017 graph.

So far, Sierra totals look  to be a bit above average, up to maybe 120%,
for this time of year.

Just an FYI, the number that counts is the final one---comparing the enire
year to the 30-year average. Comparing the rainfall totals month by month
can make things look better--or scarier--- than they are.

Catherine


On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 2:42 PM Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:06 PM Weathercarrot -
> <weathercarrot at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Sierra snowpack is now above 150% as of Feb 19th.
> > https://cdec.water.ca.gov/reportapp/javareports?name=PLOT_SWC
>
> I must be reading this wrong. I see between 104% and 123%. Where does
> 150% come from?
> _______________________________________________
> Pct-L mailing list
> Pct-L at backcountry.net
> To unsubscribe, or change options visit:
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
>
> List Archives:
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/
> All content is copyrighted by the respective authors.
> Reproduction is prohibited without express permission.
>

From weathercarrot at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 20 01:39:45 2019
From: weathercarrot at hotmail.com (Weathercarrot -)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:39:45 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] current sierra snowpack
Message-ID: <DM3PR13MB07995373DFFA1C02A2E5FAEAAE7D0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>

If you look at the image, you'll notice on the right side of each of the three charts where is says "Percent of Average for this Date", and the numbers for the southern two charts (Sierra) are 154% and 152%. This translates to 123% and 117% of the April 1st average.  This link clarifies it:

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/snowapp/sweq.action

________________________________

The blue line on the graph---the one that's not complete---is 2019. I think
the 150% is for the 2016-2017 graph.

So far, Sierra totals look  to be a bit above average, up to maybe 120%,
for this time of year.

Just an FYI, the number that counts is the final one---comparing the enire
year to the 30-year average. Comparing the rainfall totals month by month
can make things look better--or scarier--- than they are.

Catherine


On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 2:42 PM Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com<http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 12:06 PM Weathercarrot -
> <weathercarrot at hotmail.com<http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>> wrote:
> > Sierra snowpack is now above 150% as of Feb 19th.
> > https://cdec.water.ca.gov/reportapp/javareports?name=PLOT_SWC
>
> I must be reading this wrong. I see between 104% and 123%. Where does
> 150% come from?


From gary at hbfun.org  Wed Feb 20 09:39:01 2019
From: gary at hbfun.org (Gary Schenk)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:39:01 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] current sierra snowpack
In-Reply-To: <CAKnKeQJxTKeTdoKq1ZvMTKwpkg7i9Y+mHeOf-Q=sTA_4TPYR-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DM3PR13MB0799DF20F01E007A136DEA2AAE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
 <DM3PR13MB0799DC8075A6E8C62AF6F378AE7C0@DM3PR13MB0799.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
 <CALV1NzkZ2VLQ6MwjS7-Zf7Vex6zAKZFtBz56WLTgnVhgCa-A=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKnKeQJxTKeTdoKq1ZvMTKwpkg7i9Y+mHeOf-Q=sTA_4TPYR-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1d374474e77e763ee727147fa2e44c10.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com>

Forget the Sierra! People with early early start dates are going to be
shocked by the amount of snow in the "desert".

Gary

On Tue, February 19, 2019 5:14 pm, Catherine Middaugh wrote:
> The blue line on the graph---the one that's not complete---is 2019. I
> think
> the 150% is for the 2016-2017 graph.
>
> So far, Sierra totals look  to be a bit above average, up to maybe 120%,
> for this time of year.
>
> Just an FYI, the number that counts is the final one---comparing the enire
> year to the 30-year average. Comparing the rainfall totals month by month
> can make things look better--or scarier--- than they are.
>


From groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net  Sat Feb 23 19:29:05 2019
From: groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net (William E Frenette)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 01:29:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pct-l] Mammoth had 37 FEET a FEW days ago & more to come
References: <1553272668.4234223.1550971745421.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1553272668.4234223.1550971745421@mail.yahoo.com>




Sent from AOL Mobile Mail 
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com

From iceaxehikes at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 14:09:40 2019
From: iceaxehikes at gmail.com (Matthew Edwards)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:09:40 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT=USPS LOVE
Message-ID: <CACOP0JxeWqeu0KoydjhX0XK+NkvHxa-i3DTQDPGu+xXKkb+oog@mail.gmail.com>

I live outside a small town, in the least populated state of the Union.

Recently my local Post Office had a Christmas buffet.

I commented, while eating the postmasters stew, that hikers love the USPS.
He asked.. Why?

I told him about 7,500 reasons.

Even though your Post Office most likely does not fall along a Triple Crown
trail or serve as a mail drop.

PLEASE.
Please show them some Love.

In my local town, they were astonished and encouraged by stories of Postal
service to hikers.

Let us continue to encourage them.
They are us.
Same feelings.
Same responses.

Good Luck to the class of 2019.
Be kind to the USPS.

Iceaxe

From tokencivilian at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 25 14:24:58 2019
From: tokencivilian at yahoo.com (Barry Teschlog)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 20:24:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pct-l] Water, Water (likely, hopefully) everywhere.
References: <1924930918.4870370.1551126298636.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1924930918.4870370.1551126298636@mail.yahoo.com>

Bricks link to the Mt. Laguna Cam the other day (18th) is still showing plenty of snow around.
The Sweetwater River USGS water flow sensor is showing a solid snow melt pattern and flows well above median for this time of year.? Headwaters for this one reach up toward Mt. Laguna.https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/uv?site_no=11015000

The Campo Creek sensor, approx 3.5 miles westerly, as the crow flies, from the southern terminus, is showing solid flows as well, also being well above median.? Additionally, the drop off in flow rate, compared to after the earlier rain events, isn't nearly as quick, indicating that there is some level of persistence to the flow.? This gives hope that Hauser Creek will flow well.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/uv?site_no=11012500

There is hope for decent seasonal water for 2019.


From gary at hbfun.org  Mon Feb 25 15:50:15 2019
From: gary at hbfun.org (Gary Schenk)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:50:15 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Water, Water (likely, hopefully) everywhere.
In-Reply-To: <1924930918.4870370.1551126298636@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1924930918.4870370.1551126298636.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1924930918.4870370.1551126298636@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <81ac07297ff2c44f0b4f40e61bee6207.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com>

On Mon, February 25, 2019 12:24 pm, Barry Teschlog wrote:
> There is hope for decent seasonal water for 2019.

Yesterday, in the San Gabriels, we hiked by a spring that hasn't flowed in
years.

Gary