From temp3 at mflan.com  Mon Oct  1 19:04:55 2018
From: temp3 at mflan.com (Mike)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:04:55 -0500
Subject: [pct-l] Sleeping bag for sale
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1538413219.90336.pct-l@backcountry.net>
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That sounds funny - too long for you!
I bought a 6'-6" Western Mountaineering
Alpinlite.? I am 5'-10.5" tall.? Is
my bag too long for me?

I have only been in this bag maybe 15 times
or so.? Never in very cold weather.
I like it, but I'm just wondering.
I think it is just right.



Mike


On 10/1/2018 12:00 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> I have a very slightly used Feathered Friends Swallow, 20 degree, Pertex UL
> shell, size long, sleeping bag.  It is in excellent condition having been
> only used for three nights (with sleeping clothes).  It weighs 30 oz. and
> is a left zip.  I'm selling it because it's too long for me, as I belatedly
> realized.  I paid over $500 for it, and will let it go for $350.
>      Contact Scott Conover @ 503-734-9735  (PCT 1994)


From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Sun Oct 28 13:32:12 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:32:12 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
Message-ID: <55befb9b-4c97-7d8b-49e6-5fcca7d01f66@cox.net>

Say Switchback,
Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post 
for all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped 
sharing our many years of hard earned? hiking experiences during a time 
when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam 
around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring 
everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame 
packs" to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers 
strolling around on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated 
food and Tootsy Rolls.
We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits & 
Beans & Grizzly Bears.
Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the 
trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be 
interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening 
to your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and 
keep the list interesting & entertaining.
Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you 
Switchback

 ????????????????????????????? COME? BACK? SWITCHBACK? & RESURRECT? THE? 
LIST? TO? IT'S? FORMER? GLORY!!!!

JMT Reinhold

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From douglastow at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 23:23:48 2018
From: douglastow at gmail.com (Douglas Tow)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:23:48 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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Still reading the list here.  Perhaps more traffic as the season
approaches.  Chipmunk

On Sunday, October 28, 2018, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
wrote:

> Say Switchback,
> Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post for
> all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
> It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped
> sharing our many years of hard earned  hiking experiences during a time
> when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam
> around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
> Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring
> everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame packs"
> to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers strolling around
> on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated food and Tootsy Rolls.
> We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits & Beans
> & Grizzly Bears.
> Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the
> trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be
> interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening to
> your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and keep
> the list interesting & entertaining.
> Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you
> Switchback
>
>                               COME  BACK  SWITCHBACK  & RESURRECT  THE
> LIST  TO  IT'S  FORMER  GLORY!!!!
>
> JMT Reinhold
>
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From rgraybill44 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 23:40:47 2018
From: rgraybill44 at gmail.com (Ron Graybill)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:40:47 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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I watch the list regularly--soon will be continuing my section hikes
northward.  Have finished everything south of Mile 568, now struggling to
go northward from Highway 58.

Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill, Age 74


On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:24 PM Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com> wrote:

> Still reading the list here.  Perhaps more traffic as the season
> approaches.  Chipmunk
>
> On Sunday, October 28, 2018, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Say Switchback,
> > Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post
> for
> > all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
> > It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped
> > sharing our many years of hard earned  hiking experiences during a time
> > when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam
> > around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
> > Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring
> > everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame
> packs"
> > to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers strolling
> around
> > on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated food and Tootsy
> Rolls.
> > We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits &
> Beans
> > & Grizzly Bears.
> > Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the
> > trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be
> > interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening
> to
> > your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and keep
> > the list interesting & entertaining.
> > Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you
> > Switchback
> >
> >                               COME  BACK  SWITCHBACK  & RESURRECT  THE
> > LIST  TO  IT'S  FORMER  GLORY!!!!
> >
> > JMT Reinhold
> >
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From HStroh at sjmslaw.com  Mon Oct 29 12:50:37 2018
From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:50:37 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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Notwithstanding that the bulk of the posting have gone to other forums, I still find this list to constitute the best knowledge base for the PCT. 

Herb

-----Original Message-----
From: Pct-L <pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net> On Behalf Of Ron Graybill
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 9:41 PM
To: douglastow at gmail.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; Hiker97 at aol.com; Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-L

I watch the list regularly--soon will be continuing my section hikes northward.  Have finished everything south of Mile 568, now struggling to go northward from Highway 58.

Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill, Age 74


On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:24 PM Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com> wrote:

> Still reading the list here.  Perhaps more traffic as the season 
> approaches.  Chipmunk
>
> On Sunday, October 28, 2018, Reinhold Metzger 
> <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Say Switchback,
> > Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 
> > post
> for
> > all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
> > It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped 
> > sharing our many years of hard earned  hiking experiences during a 
> > time when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared 
> > to roam around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
> > Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring 
> > everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame
> packs"
> > to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers strolling
> around
> > on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated food and Tootsy
> Rolls.
> > We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits &
> Beans
> > & Grizzly Bears.
> > Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed 
> > the trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to 
> > be interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed 
> > listening
> to
> > your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and 
> > keep the list interesting & entertaining.
> > Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs 
> > you Switchback
> >
> >                               COME  BACK  SWITCHBACK  & RESURRECT  
> > THE LIST  TO  IT'S  FORMER  GLORY!!!!
> >
> > JMT Reinhold
> >
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From hiker97 at aol.com  Mon Oct 29 13:17:14 2018
From: hiker97 at aol.com (hiker97 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:17:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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One thing I have noticed about hikers out on the trail is that they all seem to carry too much gear weight.? I think the marketing of hiking gear is alive and well.? May be too well.? I know I would be a big Z-Pack fan if I was looking at hiking gear.? Cheers.

From twizstix at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 13:36:35 2018
From: twizstix at gmail.com (Karl Jorgensen)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:36:35 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] PCT_L
Message-ID: <CAAYim0efTKbPuUqba=QSjF2P=dtVk6bW8qJ_Gt3YJ2LhiGRf-A@mail.gmail.com>

I always look forward to posts from this list.   It was what I relied on in
2006 when I thru hiked, and in my opinion is the best.   Glad to hear from
you all.

jorgy 2006 age 73

From groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net  Mon Oct 29 14:51:38 2018
From: groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net (William E Frenette)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:51:38 -0400
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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I'm still here just Lurking, LOVING life in IDAHO ,no more socal

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On Sunday, October 28, 2018 Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net> wrote:
Say Switchback, Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post for all of October, so far, on the PCT-L. It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped sharing our many years of hard earned? hiking experiences during a time when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam around in the wilderness and bears were nervous. Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame packs" to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers strolling around on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated food and Tootsy Rolls. We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits & Beans & Grizzly Bears. Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening to your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and keep the list interesting & entertaining. Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you Switchback ????????????????????????????? COME? BACK? SWITCHBACK? & RESURRECT? THE? LIST? TO? IT'S? FORMER? GLORY!!!! JMT Reinhold --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission.

From imscotty at aol.com  Mon Oct 29 14:57:35 2018
From: imscotty at aol.com (imscotty at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:57:35 -0400
Subject: [pct-l] Section Hiking the PCT
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Hello Ron,


I am a section hiker too.  I started in the middle of CA, and have completed Crabtree Meadows to Castella/ Dunsmuir/ Route 5.  Last year I finally made it to Campo and hiked from there to Big Bear Lake.


I did that section from the end of May to mid-June, and to tell you the truth the sun of California kills me.  I am use to the 'green tunnel' of the east.  Towards the end of next May I will pick up where I left off at Big Bear.  I would like to fill in this gap to Crabtree Meadow (and do Whitney one more time), but that is probably unrealistic since I only get about three weeks for each section.


Still, perhaps our paths will interest along the way.  I'll be glad when I am done with the desert, I would probably feel differently about it if I could just get out there earlier in the season, but I cannot.  Just want to make sure you know that you have some great sections in front of you that I would gladly hike again.


My best to everyone,
Scott Stimpson


"I watch the list regularly--soon will be continuing my section hikes
northward. Have finished everything south of Mile 568, now struggling to
go northward from Highway 58.

Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill, Age 74"



From rangergirl02 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 12:45:29 2018
From: rangergirl02 at gmail.com (Julianne Baker)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:45:29 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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Ok. Here?s a question: I want to finish the PCT this summer. Ive got from tuolomne meadows to the Oregon border to finish. What do you all think would be the earliest I could start if I hike nobo? Would sobo allow me to start earlier? Thanks for your thoughts. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 22:40, Ron Graybill <rgraybill44 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I watch the list regularly--soon will be continuing my section hikes
> northward.  Have finished everything south of Mile 568, now struggling to
> go northward from Highway 58.
> 
> Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill, Age 74
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:24 PM Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Still reading the list here.  Perhaps more traffic as the season
>> approaches.  Chipmunk
>> 
>> On Sunday, October 28, 2018, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Say Switchback,
>>> Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post
>> for
>>> all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
>>> It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped
>>> sharing our many years of hard earned  hiking experiences during a time
>>> when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam
>>> around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
>>> Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring
>>> everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame
>> packs"
>>> to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers strolling
>> around
>>> on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated food and Tootsy
>> Rolls.
>>> We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits &
>> Beans
>>> & Grizzly Bears.
>>> Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the
>>> trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be
>>> interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening
>> to
>>> your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and keep
>>> the list interesting & entertaining.
>>> Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you
>>> Switchback
>>> 
>>>                              COME  BACK  SWITCHBACK  & RESURRECT  THE
>>> LIST  TO  IT'S  FORMER  GLORY!!!!
>>> 
>>> JMT Reinhold
>>> 
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From troopharrison at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 12:48:35 2018
From: troopharrison at gmail.com (Sabrina Harrison)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:48:35 -0500
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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That?s great slow charger!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 11:40 PM, Ron Graybill <rgraybill44 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I watch the list regularly--soon will be continuing my section hikes
> northward.  Have finished everything south of Mile 568, now struggling to
> go northward from Highway 58.
> 
> Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill, Age 74
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:24 PM Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Still reading the list here.  Perhaps more traffic as the season
>> approaches.  Chipmunk
>> 
>> On Sunday, October 28, 2018, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Say Switchback,
>>> Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post
>> for
>>> all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
>>> It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped
>>> sharing our many years of hard earned  hiking experiences during a time
>>> when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam
>>> around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
>>> Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring
>>> everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame
>> packs"
>>> to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers strolling
>> around
>>> on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated food and Tootsy
>> Rolls.
>>> We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits &
>> Beans
>>> & Grizzly Bears.
>>> Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the
>>> trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be
>>> interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening
>> to
>>> your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and keep
>>> the list interesting & entertaining.
>>> Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you
>>> Switchback
>>> 
>>>                              COME  BACK  SWITCHBACK  & RESURRECT  THE
>>> LIST  TO  IT'S  FORMER  GLORY!!!!
>>> 
>>> JMT Reinhold
>>> 
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:32:12 -0700
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
To: "Hiker97 at aol.com" <Hiker97 at aol.com>, PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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Say Switchback,
Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post 
for all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped 
sharing our many years of hard earned? hiking experiences during a time 
when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam 
around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring 
everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame 
packs" to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers 
strolling around on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated 
food and Tootsy Rolls.
We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits & 
Beans & Grizzly Bears.
Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the 
trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be 
interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening 
to your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and 
keep the list interesting & entertaining.
Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you 
Switchback

 ????????????????????????????? COME? BACK? SWITCHBACK? & RESURRECT? THE? 
LIST? TO? IT'S? FORMER? GLORY!!!!

JMT Reinhold

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I think Switchback is in hibernation until Spring;)Can't? quit  

From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Mon Oct 29 19:26:06 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:26:06 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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Hhhhmmmm,
Looks like the list is still alive, I guess.
For the past 15 years I always followed the list through the Archives.
If hikers are still posting on the list, it does not show that in the 
Archives.
The only post on the October Archives is the 10-1 2018 post by Mike 
trying to sell his sleeping bag.
Looks like posts are no longer listed in the Archives.

JMT Reinhold
......................................

On 10/28/2018 9:23 PM, Douglas Tow wrote:
> Still reading the list here.? Perhaps more traffic as the season 
> approaches.? Chipmunk
>
> On Sunday, October 28, 2018, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net 
> <mailto:reinholdmetzger at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>     Say Switchback,
>     Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1
>     post for all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
>     It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I
>     stopped sharing our many years of hard earned? hiking experiences
>     during a time when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback &
>     Reinhold dared to roam around in the wilderness and bears were
>     nervous.
>     Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring
>     everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel
>     frame packs" to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of
>     hikers strolling around on trails in UL Packs eating things like
>     dehydrated food and Tootsy Rolls.
>     We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits
>     & Beans & Grizzly Bears.
>     Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed
>     the trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to
>     to be interested in what hard core mountain men had to say,
>     enjoyed listening to your words of wisdom and hiking humor and
>     responded accordingly and keep the list interesting & entertaining.
>     Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs
>     you Switchback
>
>     ????????????????????????????? COME? BACK? SWITCHBACK? & RESURRECT?
>     THE? LIST? TO? IT'S? FORMER? GLORY!!!!
>
>     JMT Reinhold
>
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>



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From baidarker at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 18:38:51 2018
From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:38:51 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
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Hey Yellowstone,

In the drought years people were entering the High Sierra as early as mid
May and doing just fine.  When you and I hiked in 2010, it was deep snow
for much of the trail from Cottonwood all the way to Canada as late as late
June.  That year, I had to get off trail for several weeks in May and
toward the end of the month I drove to several of the northern passes, and
from Stevens south, found deep snow everywhere I went.  I was hoping on
something other than the High Sierra for a return point on the trail, and
couldn't find it.  I just slogged through the stuff for 4+ weeks with
Mango, Plain Slice, Little Engine and Smiles, which was wonderful, if hard
as hell!  Many people we know jumped north to Shasta and attempted to hike
south, but were turned around by the impassible trail after several days of
snow and blowdowns.  So much simply depends on the winter weather, which
hasn't happened yet.

If you've got an open schedule, and want pleasant hiking, I'd shoot for
late June, early July as a usual time for basically clear sailing and I'd
start from Tuolumne Meadows as the blow downs in a typical year are not as
bad north of Tuolumne, and can be awful in the Southern Cascades.  It'll
give the trail crews time to clear those northern trails before you get
there.

How exciting that you're finishing the trail!  Let me know when you get to
the Tahoe Region just in case I'm around.  I'm hoping for the GDT this
summer, but if I'm in town, I'd love to catch up.

Shroomer

l

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:06 PM Julianne Baker <rangergirl02 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ok. Here?s a question: I want to finish the PCT this summer. Ive got from
> tuolomne meadows to the Oregon border to finish. What do you all think
> would be the earliest I could start if I hike nobo? Would sobo allow me to
> start earlier? Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 28, 2018, at 22:40, Ron Graybill <rgraybill44 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I watch the list regularly--soon will be continuing my section hikes
> > northward.  Have finished everything south of Mile 568, now struggling to
> > go northward from Highway 58.
> >
> > Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill, Age 74
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:24 PM Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Still reading the list here.  Perhaps more traffic as the season
> >> approaches.  Chipmunk
> >>
> >> On Sunday, October 28, 2018, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Say Switchback,
> >>> Just got back from extended vacation in Hawaii and noticed just 1 post
> >> for
> >>> all of October, so far, on the PCT-L.
> >>> It looks like the list is dying a slow death since you and I stopped
> >>> sharing our many years of hard earned  hiking experiences during a time
> >>> when "Hard Core Mountain Men" like Switchback & Reinhold dared to roam
> >>> around in the wilderness and bears were nervous.
> >>> Yes, a time when Switchback & Reinhold tamed the wilderness caring
> >>> everything they needed to survive in the wilderness in "steel frame
> >> packs"
> >>> to make the wilderness safe for the current crop of hikers strolling
> >> around
> >>> on trails in UL Packs eating things like dehydrated food and Tootsy
> >> Rolls.
> >>> We needed to eat heavier things with more "horse power" like Grits &
> >> Beans
> >>> & Grizzly Bears.
> >>> Yes, thinks have really changed since Switchback & Reinhold roamed the
> >>> trails...and the list, especially the women, really seemed to to be
> >>> interested in what hard core mountain men had to say, enjoyed listening
> >> to
> >>> your words of wisdom and hiking humor and responded accordingly and
> keep
> >>> the list interesting & entertaining.
> >>> Now with you gone, the list is dull and dead........The list needs you
> >>> Switchback
> >>>
> >>>                              COME  BACK  SWITCHBACK  & RESURRECT  THE
> >>> LIST  TO  IT'S  FORMER  GLORY!!!!
> >>>
> >>> JMT Reinhold
> >>>
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From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Tue Oct 30 15:10:56 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:10:56 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT-L
Message-ID: <94f9564b-3d97-79c8-c46d-d72df474fc10@cox.net>

Hallelujah!!!
The PCT-L Archives are working again and hikers are communicating again.
As of October 28, 2018 there was only 1 post, the October 1 post by 
Mike, listed in the October Archives which let me to post my October 28 
message.
There were? o? posts on the Archives between October 1 & October 28.
This is evidence that a lot of PCT-L members, like me, follow the "LIST" 
via the Archives rather than via their e-mail.
I know most of my "old time, hard-core, hiking buddies follow the list 
via the Archives.
I bet there must be other list members that, like me, probably thought 
the list died on October 1 when no more posts appeared
in the Archives after October 1.
Brick, you may want to send a message to the old time list members to 
remind those, who like me, follow the list via the Archives and assumed 
the list died, that the list is alive & kicking and the Archives are 
working again.
That may "rejuvenate" the List to its former glory by increased 
participation by those list members who may have thought the list
died October 1.
Although, some of the old timers may have already died between October 1 
and October 28.
At 78 I am still a "Spring Chicken"...but Switchback, who I believe may 
be around 98, may not be around anymore.

He,he,he,he.....forgive me Switchback,...I could not help myself,...it's 
not my fault...the devil made me do it.

JMT Reinhold



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From rgraybill44 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 30 15:39:54 2018
From: rgraybill44 at gmail.com (Ron Graybill)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:39:54 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] Section Hiking between California Highway 58 and Jawbone
 Canyon Road
Message-ID: <CAEnMNWWhVu0V0ygEAUYvhipmdY_ad3DFHR+Y2P8KPHc7ZDmttg@mail.gmail.com>

My next goal is to hike the 36 miles between Mile 566 and 602. Ok, you say,
simple.  Get dropped off at Jawbone Canyon Road and the PCT and hike SB for
three days, 12 miles per day (kind of my limit at age 74).  Yes, but that's
also two nights on the trail, and no water till at least Golden Oaks Spring
(20 miles south of Jawbone Canyon Road) and that was running slow on 10/18.
Hopefully only because of sediment in the line. But what if it's dry?

Does anyone want to go with me? We could park one car at Highway 58
(Cameron Road Exit) where it would be up and out of sight of the highway,
then drive the other car up Jawbone Canyon Road to the PCT.  I know, I
know, then there will be the tedious drive back up Jawbone Canyon Road
(mostly dirt road, but fairly well maintained, possible in a two wheel
drive sedan, but I have a AWD SUV) at the end to retrieve the car we left
there.


Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill
Ontario, CA

From groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net  Wed Oct 31 12:19:43 2018
From: groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net (William E Frenette)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:19:43 -0400
Subject: [pct-l] Section Hiking between California Highway 58 and
 Jawbone Canyon Road
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Message-ID: <166cb2358d6-1ec3-1d0d@webjas-vae211.srv.aolmail.net>

Hi Ron when you hike that section hwy 58 to Jawbone watch out for Bears. That's the only place I walked into one, or He walked into Me. He got within 30' take care be safe would love to be on the trail with you but alas LOVING IDAHO 



groundpounderbill




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From: Ron Graybill <rgraybill44 at gmail.com>
To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tue, Oct 30, 2018 1:40 pm
Subject: [pct-l] Section Hiking between California Highway 58 and Jawbone Canyon Road

My next goal is to hike the 36 miles between Mile 566 and 602. Ok, you say,
simple.  Get dropped off at Jawbone Canyon Road and the PCT and hike SB for
three days, 12 miles per day (kind of my limit at age 74).  Yes, but that's
also two nights on the trail, and no water till at least Golden Oaks Spring
(20 miles south of Jawbone Canyon Road) and that was running slow on 10/18.
Hopefully only because of sediment in the line. But what if it's dry?

Does anyone want to go with me? We could park one car at Highway 58
(Cameron Road Exit) where it would be up and out of sight of the highway,
then drive the other car up Jawbone Canyon Road to the PCT.  I know, I
know, then there will be the tedious drive back up Jawbone Canyon Road
(mostly dirt road, but fairly well maintained, possible in a two wheel
drive sedan, but I have a AWD SUV) at the end to retrieve the car we left
there.


Ron "Slow Charger" Graybill
Ontario, CA
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