[pct-l] Fwd: Angeles NF Bans Stoves for 2018
Jay Bruins
jbruins at gmail.com
Mon Jan 8 10:51:32 CST 2018
Sorry, but it’s not ambiguous.
The cover letter (second page of the PDF) explains, in plain English, their intent to ban stoves. As “sloppy” as they might have been in proofreading, just reading rest of the provided document would have made their intent clear.
Moreover the order itself, refers to the law directly. The law can be found here:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/36/261.52
Cornell’s site is convenient in that the definition for “stove fire” hyperlinks to the legal definition from 261.2. From there, you can look at the definition of “campfire”, too.
This California fire season has created a natural resource disaster. Managing it is not something I’d wish on anyone.
Armstrong
> On Jan 8, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Drew Smith <jdrewsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Another example of their typical sloppy and ambiguous orders. A "stove
> fire" might reasonably be interpreted as a wood-burning stove, and I'll bet
> that was their intent. Otherwise they would be banning Coleman stoves and
> stoves within RVs. I find that implausible.
>
> Note how the author confuses "except" with "exempt" in the second section.
> Do they give a second's thought to these orders? They obviously don't
> bother to proofread them.
>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:26 AM Gary Schenk <gary_schenk at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> New fire and stove restrictions on the Angeles for 1018. No campfires or
>> stoves, apparently even in developed campgrounds.
>> https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd568359.pdf
>>
>> Gary
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