From jamesfmiller at hotmail.com  Thu Feb  1 10:26:30 2018
From: jamesfmiller at hotmail.com (James F. Miller)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 16:26:30 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] PCTA Strategic Plan
In-Reply-To: <CALu=H=gdQTo=OsxXnL04GK4rex0cS-peyvWkE-XcYzP-btWZDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5GXx1x00G0CyNXY01GXxz0@charter.net>,
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Amen

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________________________________
From: Pct-L <pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net> on behalf of Paint YW <paintyourwagonhikes at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:41:48 PM
To: aslive at charter.net
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCTA Strategic Plan

While on the soap box- has the bear box that was stored under the Woods
Creek suspension bridge, for what seemed like multiple years, ever been
located and assembled?

Thanks. Paint.

PS I think that spot is between Glen Pass and Pinchot Pass.

On Jan 31, 2018 9:31 PM, <aslive at charter.net> wrote:

> I agree, keep bear boxes off the trail just post signs to them.  Also put
> them under trees.  Why for God's sake are they left fully exposed to the
> sun?
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Paint YW"
> To:
> Cc:
> Sent: 01-Feb-2018 03:58:57 +0000
> Subject: [pct-l] PCTA Strategic Plan
>
> https://www.pcta.org/2018/pcta-releases-strategic-plan-2018-2021-56007/
> />
> The PCT is undergoing dramatic growing pains. That's the nature of the
> beast. This article is an opening outreach effort, to get the community
> involved. May I ask the readers to take a proverbial deep breath, and join
> in to contribute solutions that will preserve this golden treasure for
> future generations to come.
>
> Suggestion: move metal bear boxes away from the trail, at least the
> required distance from the trail that is recommended by the LNT creed- 200
> feet.
>
> Not kidding... some boxes are right there, along the trail. Push em' back!
> Push em' back! Way back!
>
> Otherwise... stating the obvious- hikers are going to camp right next to
> the bear boxes, which are right next to the trail.
>
> Can I get an Amen?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Paint
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From marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 10 11:04:35 2018
From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com (marmot marmot)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:04:35 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Rucks
Message-ID: <MWHPR0401MB35326CB0480A13EF3E6B46EEC8F10@MWHPR0401MB3532.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

New long distance hikers--check out the Aldhawest Rucks. First on in Feb 24 th. I think there are 5 this year. In Calif,Oregon, Idaho,Colorado. This is the place to learn. Hands on info. Lots of help. Wolverines to go through your pack. Lighten up. Get strategies. 
Go to the ALDHAwest website
Marmot

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From marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 12 10:13:14 2018
From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com (marmot marmot)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:13:14 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: The Rucks are coming!
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From: ALDHA-West <admin at aldhawest.org<mailto:admin at aldhawest.org>>
Date: February 12, 2018 at 7:40:36 AM PST
To: Marmot Moore <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com<mailto:marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>>
Subject: The Rucks are coming!
Reply-To: Kate Hoch <secretary at aldhawest.org<mailto:secretary at aldhawest.org>>


[http://www.aldhawest.org/resources/Pictures/aldhalogo.png]




Our first Ruck is less than 2 weeks away!  Are you as excited as we are??




Space is limited, be sure to register soon!

Cascade Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2699841>

February 24
Cascade Locks, OR

Inland NW Ruck
<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2699842>March 3
Hayden, ID

NorCal Ruck
<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2758423>March 10
Berkeley Hills, CA

Rockies Ruck
<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2699843>March 17
Golden, CO

Bellingham Ruck
<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2766665>March 31
Bellingham, WA

What is a Ruck??

Ruck is the German word for Backpacking, and has been used through the trail community as a name for an event that helps you get out and backpack.

This day-long event is designed for all sorts of backpackers (from novice to expert) to prepare themselves for the hiking season. The primary focus is on attendees looking to set out on their first long distance hike, be it on the Pacific Crest, Continental Divide, Pacific Northwest, Camino de Santiago,Timberline, Wonderland, or John Muir Trail.

Whether you are on trail for a few days or several months, if you?re hiking this summer, this is the event to attend!  See each event link for more information.







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From mdcalpoly at gmail.com  Tue Feb 13 00:11:28 2018
From: mdcalpoly at gmail.com (mdcalpoly at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 06:11:28 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] (no subject)
Message-ID: <C9A4F45F-C9FE-41EE-829D-B6AB70E44800@hartmann-berlin.de>

Hiya Pct     https://goo.gl/MmY4rp

From ned at mountaineducation.org  Wed Feb 14 17:33:16 2018
From: ned at mountaineducation.org (ned at mountaineducation.org)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:33:16 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] 2018 NoBo PCT/JMT Drought year snow/creeks
Message-ID: <047801d3a5ec$30fda330$92f8e990$@mountaineducation.org>

For those of you who don't "do" Facebook, 

 

I have been trying to show this year's Class of 2018 what the Sierra will
look like in May and June after its third drought winter in a row by posting
thirty or more pictures of the area from Chicken Spring Lake (Cottonwood
Pass) on the PCT north over Forester Pass and exiting out over Kearsarge
Pass.

 

Take away?  

 

1. The thaw usually starts about the same time (late May)
2. Creek volume and rate usually increase within a few days thereafter
3. Mild winter = dangerous creek flows may last 3-4 weeks
4. Normal winter = dangerous creek flows may last 5-6 weeks
5. Heavy winter = dangerous creek flows may last 6-8 weeks
6. Postholing is exhausting (a bitch, really!)
7. Snowlines rise over time, rate depending on weather

 

Now, whether we continue along in this La Nina pattern, causing drought
conditions in California and Oregon and heavy snows in the North Cascades,
or not, the Class of 2018 needs to know what to prepare for, since many are
led to believe that "Drought = No snow."

 

Even on the dangerous creek crossing side of things, after the thaw starts
in the Sierra (predictable time), no matter how little snow there remains,
the creeks will run high and fast for a period of time. Every year, people
die in Sierra creeks and waterfalls, but few long-distance hikers do. Last
year two did and this year we want to prevent that from happening again.

 

For anyone entering the Sierra this year from mid-April to July, we will be
offering a special 1-day, steep snow/creek-crossing clinic held at Chicken
Spring Lake, Cottonwood Pass and taught every weekday so everyone will know
how to identify risk ahead and know what to do about it.

 

Of course, we've seen many a year go by where the winter has started out
terribly, then came roaring back to life in March and April. We've seen the
opposite, too, where winters have started out great and died out later. So,
who knows what this winter will be, but we can be certain that 

*	there will be some snow in the high country in May/June (prime PCT
thru-hiking months)
*	the snowpack will be shallow 
*	snowlines will be high
*	the thaw will start on time
*	creeks will run dangerously full and fast for a period of time
*	there's always the chance for April, May, June snowstorms
*	creeks will recede, then start drying up as the summer goes on
*	the chance for forest and wildland fires will increase and
*	water availability will be a problem (like it was during the drought
years, 2012-15)

 

If you want to see pictures or read more, go to

https://www.facebook.com/ned.tibbits or
https://www.facebook.com/mountaineducation/ 

 

(I know that wasn't fair 'cause I led you to facebook, anyway! Sorry, but
that's where the info is.)

 

 

Ned Tibbits, Director

Mountain Education, Inc.

ned at mountaineducation.org <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org>  

 


From paintyourwagonhikes at gmail.com  Sun Feb 18 01:44:24 2018
From: paintyourwagonhikes at gmail.com (Paint YW)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:44:24 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] Why hike? Video helps answer ancient riddle.
Message-ID: <CALu=H=h81dMKhaAMLrAQp4DEBw9Q6Ay-DVhpfWibSEFhfqT+bg@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/HwzxKljnAZ8

Credit to Stephen Bohr / Bohr Visuals

Last fall I was lucky enough to ferry a couple of hikers and their dog
across Lake Edison to VVR, as this was my "job / duty" at the time. One
hiker asked me if they could use a drone and track us back to VVR. I saw no
concern in such a mild request and acquiesced. I submit the results to the
board.

Enjoy,

Paint

From HStroh at sjmslaw.com  Mon Feb 19 10:03:17 2018
From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:03:17 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Why hike? Video helps answer ancient riddle.
In-Reply-To: <CALu=H=h81dMKhaAMLrAQp4DEBw9Q6Ay-DVhpfWibSEFhfqT+bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALu=H=h81dMKhaAMLrAQp4DEBw9Q6Ay-DVhpfWibSEFhfqT+bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4156ce3b06f84097b94ba08ea59193d4@MALAWI.SJLM.local>

Very cool video Paint. Thanks for posting. 

Looks like I will be adding a fall trip to the Sierra to catch some color!

Herb

-----Original Message-----
From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Paint YW
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 11:44 PM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Why hike? Video helps answer ancient riddle.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_HwzxKljnAZ8&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=ouoU-5bWB1hGSQsVF7qHade7G0U6SKCUqXI8nbm_amI&m=ZqKn9eg730G8IW94J1sM5R_BimAvOsRFPMlOZD8anqM&s=1uJ_zXcIJ2Fguenjb_c0mpQqQ218j4eRsNeIjz4_1l8&e=

Credit to Stephen Bohr / Bohr Visuals

Last fall I was lucky enough to ferry a couple of hikers and their dog across Lake Edison to VVR, as this was my "job / duty" at the time. One hiker asked me if they could use a drone and track us back to VVR. I saw no concern in such a mild request and acquiesced. I submit the results to the board.

Enjoy,

Paint
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From marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 19 11:54:17 2018
From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com (marmot marmot)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:54:17 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: 5 days til the Cascade Ruck!
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Begin forwarded message:

From: ALDHA-West <admin at aldhawest.org<mailto:admin at aldhawest.org>>
Date: February 19, 2018 at 8:14:28 AM PST
To: Marmot Moore <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com<mailto:marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>>
Subject: 5 days til the Cascade Ruck!
Reply-To: Kate Hoch <secretary at aldhawest.org<mailto:secretary at aldhawest.org>>


[http://www.aldhawest.org/resources/Pictures/aldhalogo.png]




We are less than a week away from our first RUCK!   Please register<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2699841> ASAP so we buy enough food!

Cascade Ruck
<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2699841>February 24
Cascade Locks, OR


[http://www.aldhawest.org/resources/Documents/Event%20Posters/2018%20Cascade%20Ruck%20Poster.jpg]








Other Ruck Events:

Inland NW Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2699842> - March 3, Hayden, ID

NorCal Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2758423> - March 10, Berkeley Hills, CA

Rockies Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2699843> - March 17, Golden, CO

Bellingham Ruck<http://www.aldhawest.org/event-2766665> - March 31, Bellingham, WA






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From susanvirnig at gmail.com  Mon Feb 19 15:17:08 2018
From: susanvirnig at gmail.com (Susan Virnig)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:17:08 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Section A advice
Message-ID: <F4E42EF2-FE14-4B27-843E-60F3704FDA5A@gmail.com>

Dear PCT-L,

I am hoping to start at the border sometime in mid-March and hike north 100-200 miles.  How?s the water situation in the desert, and would it be better to start even earlier?  But then what?s the snow conditions around Mt. Laguna and in the San Jacintos?  Do you need micro-spikes?  Or is it simply too early to try to hike thru them?

I?ve been section hiking since the late 70s and have hiked the entire trail from Echo Lake north into Canada, with the exception of a 40 mile stretch that I will complete.  This time I?ll be hiking solo, tho there?s a slight chance a friend may join me.  Thanks for any help you can provide.

?Susan from Spokane, aka Sunshine

From brick at brickrobbins.com  Mon Feb 19 17:43:47 2018
From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:43:47 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Section A advice
In-Reply-To: <F4E42EF2-FE14-4B27-843E-60F3704FDA5A@gmail.com>
References: <F4E42EF2-FE14-4B27-843E-60F3704FDA5A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALV1NznnbY4Nurjx6s+X-mk_hZiNwO2J7Kv=mqKR02JcCsNLSQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Susan Virnig <susanvirnig at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am hoping to start at the border sometime in mid-March and hike north 100-200 miles.  How?s the water situation in the desert, and would it be better to start even earlier?  But then what?s the snow conditions around Mt. Laguna and in the San Jacintos?  Do you need micro-spikes?  Or is it simply too early to try to hike thru them?

I can't speak to water right now, as I have not been out on the trail
recently, but we have had VERY little rain so far this winter.

There is no snow in the Lagunas, nor is there likely to be any that
will stick.You will need to be prepared for cold windy weather, but
don't expect any snow till north of Hwy 74

There is little snow at PCT elevations in over San Jac. Here is the
Long Valley webcam which is higher than the trail, over by the Palm
Springs tram. You can see there is little snow
https://www.pstramway.com/long-valley-cam/

Have a great trip

From SaintGimp at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 19 23:38:24 2018
From: SaintGimp at hotmail.com (Eric Lee)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:38:24 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Saufleys accepting donations for new septic system
Message-ID: <DM5PR1901MB2022B5047EEEF8319502F271BDCF0@DM5PR1901MB2022.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

The Saufley's leach field has finally died after however-many-thousands of hikers they've hosted.  They're accepting donations to defer the cost of replacing it before this year's herd arrives.  Details here: http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/.
[http://hikerheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cropped-CountryGolds-Pics-1786.jpg]<http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>

SEPTIC SYSTEM POOPED OUT!!!<http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>
In 2016 our wonderful (if not miraculous) septic system began to give us signs that it had enough after 20 years of hiker traffic. We had asked too much. Our leech field began to fail because of its age and the extreme duress (!) it's been put through. To deal with the situation, we increased the nu
hikerheaven.com

Eric

From pctl at marcusschwartz.com  Mon Feb 19 23:51:26 2018
From: pctl at marcusschwartz.com (Town Food)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:51:26 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Saufleys accepting donations for new septic system
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So far as I can tell, they're asking for donations through the store at 
wearehikertrash.com.  But, when I try to "buy" the donation product, it 
wants to charge shipping, which doesn't make sense for a donation. 
Anybody know if I'm using this wrong?

  -=Town Food

On 02/19/2018 09:38 PM, Eric Lee wrote:
> The Saufley's leach field has finally died after however-many-thousands of hikers they've hosted.  They're accepting donations to defer the cost of replacing it before this year's herd arrives.  Details here: http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/.
> [http://hikerheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cropped-CountryGolds-Pics-1786.jpg]<http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>
> 
> SEPTIC SYSTEM POOPED OUT!!!<http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>
> In 2016 our wonderful (if not miraculous) septic system began to give us signs that it had enough after 20 years of hiker traffic. We had asked too much. Our leech field began to fail because of its age and the extreme duress (!) it's been put through. To deal with the situation, we increased the nu
> hikerheaven.com
> 
> Eric
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From gary_schenk at verizon.net  Wed Feb 21 09:19:08 2018
From: gary_schenk at verizon.net (Gary Schenk)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 10:19:08 -0500
Subject: [pct-l] Saufleys accepting donations for new septic system
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Has the PCT exceeded its carrying capacity? If the Hiker Heaven system can't handle the poop, how can Little Jimmy Campground possibly be able to handle it?

Gary

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Lee <SaintGimp at hotmail.com>
To: Pct-L <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
Sent: Mon, Feb 19, 2018 9:38 pm
Subject: [pct-l] Saufleys accepting donations for new septic system

The Saufley's leach field has finally died after however-many-thousands of hikers they've hosted.  They're accepting donations to defer the cost of replacing it before this year's herd arrives.  Details here: http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/.
[http://hikerheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cropped-CountryGolds-Pics-1786.jpg]<http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>

SEPTIC SYSTEM POOPED OUT!!!<http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>
In 2016 our wonderful (if not miraculous) septic system began to give us signs that it had enough after 20 years of hiker traffic. We had asked too much. Our leech field began to fail because of its age and the extreme duress (!) it's been put through. To deal with the situation, we increased the nu
hikerheaven.com

Eric
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From lucecruz13 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 21 16:40:42 2018
From: lucecruz13 at gmail.com (Luce Cruz)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:40:42 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Saufleys accepting donations for new septic system
In-Reply-To: <161b8f26035-c86-182c@webjas-vad002.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <DM5PR1901MB2022B5047EEEF8319502F271BDCF0@DM5PR1901MB2022.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
 <161b8f26035-c86-182c@webjas-vad002.srv.aolmail.net>
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MUST
RESIST
OBVIOUS
POOP
JOKE
HALP!!!


On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Gary Schenk <gary_schenk at verizon.net>
wrote:

> Has the PCT exceeded its carrying capacity? If the Hiker Heaven system
> can't handle the poop, how can Little Jimmy Campground possibly be able to
> handle it?
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Lee <SaintGimp at hotmail.com>
> To: Pct-L <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 19, 2018 9:38 pm
> Subject: [pct-l] Saufleys accepting donations for new septic system
>
> The Saufley's leach field has finally died after however-many-thousands of
> hikers they've hosted.  They're accepting donations to defer the cost of
> replacing it before this year's herd arrives.  Details here:
> http://hikerheaven.com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/.
> [http://hikerheaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/
> cropped-CountryGolds-Pics-1786.jpg]<http://hikerheaven.
> com/2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>
>
> SEPTIC SYSTEM POOPED OUT!!!<http://hikerheaven.com/
> 2018/02/16/septic-system-pooped-out/>
> In 2016 our wonderful (if not miraculous) septic system began to give us
> signs that it had enough after 20 years of hiker traffic. We had asked too
> much. Our leech field began to fail because of its age and the extreme
> duress (!) it's been put through. To deal with the situation, we increased
> the nu
> hikerheaven.com
>
> Eric
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-- 
Luce Cruz

From brick at brickrobbins.com  Wed Feb 21 16:54:17 2018
From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:54:17 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Saufleys accepting donations for new septic system
In-Reply-To: <161b8f26035-c86-182c@webjas-vad002.srv.aolmail.net>
References: <DM5PR1901MB2022B5047EEEF8319502F271BDCF0@DM5PR1901MB2022.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Gary Schenk <gary_schenk at verizon.net> wrote:
> Has the PCT exceeded its carrying capacity? If the Hiker Heaven system can't handle the poop, how can Little Jimmy Campground possibly be able to handle it?

The Thru-Hiker part of the users of the PCT is a very, very small
portion of the overall users, but is the majority of the guests at
Hiker Haven.

I think these are two very different issues. Even if the number of
thrus  doubled, it would not approach a fraction of the number yearly
users of Little Jimmy Campground by weekenders and day hikers.

From moodyjj at comcast.net  Thu Feb 22 07:50:27 2018
From: moodyjj at comcast.net (Jim & Jane Moody)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 08:50:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [pct-l] AT hostel owner
Message-ID: <1622861063.119665.1519307427807@connect.xfinity.com>

Those of you who have hiked the AT will remember Uncle Johnny's hostel in Erwin, TN, on the Nolichucky River.  Uncle Johnny, Johnny Shores, died a few days ago.


RIP, friend

From susanvirnig at gmail.com  Sat Feb 24 11:28:36 2018
From: susanvirnig at gmail.com (Susan Virnig)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 09:28:36 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Mailman privacy alert
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1519493196.35909.pct-l@backcountry.net>
References: <mailman.0.1519493196.35909.pct-l@backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <EDED62D4-4856-4239-81BF-77BE19739522@gmail.com>

Hi, Brick,

I was just trying to log in to check how my account was set up, but didn?t know how to do that without triggering this email.  Please help.

Best,
Susan Virnig


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From pctl at marcusschwartz.com  Sat Feb 24 15:23:46 2018
From: pctl at marcusschwartz.com (Town Food)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:23:46 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Sawyer filters and Coffee
Message-ID: <e2bbf807-1875-89cb-39e5-8724881848f1@marcusschwartz.com>

Has anybody tried running coffee through a Sawyer filter?  Does it taste 
different, or remove caffeine or the like?  I'm also curious about other 
drinks, like Gatorade or tea.  Does it clog the filter faster?

It seems like it would be nice to be able to have cold instant coffee in 
my first water bottle of the day, but I drink straight through the 
filter and don't carry any clean bottles.

  -=Marcus

From moodyjj at comcast.net  Sat Feb 24 15:42:19 2018
From: moodyjj at comcast.net (Jim & Jane Moody)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:42:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [pct-l] Sawyer filters and Coffee
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References: <e2bbf807-1875-89cb-39e5-8724881848f1@marcusschwartz.com>
Message-ID: <1457941176.168419.1519508539448@connect.xfinity.com>

I'll take a shot. The Sawyer filter is supposed to remove everything > 1 micron in diameter. I'd say the Gatorade and similar drinks would clog it up fast. I'm not sure about coffee, but it probably would have to be completely dissolved before being strained. I'd avoid flavored or sweetened coffee mixes. Maybe mix it up the night before and let it dissolve all night?

Why not try it at home and report back.

Good luck,
Mango

> On February 24, 2018 at 4:23 PM Town Food <pctl at marcusschwartz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has anybody tried running coffee through a Sawyer filter? Does it taste
> different, or remove caffeine or the like? I'm also curious about other
> drinks, like Gatorade or tea. Does it clog the filter faster?
>
> It seems like it would be nice to be able to have cold instant coffee in
> my first water bottle of the day, but I drink straight through the
> filter and don't carry any clean bottles.
>
> -=Marcus
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From pctl at marcusschwartz.com  Sat Feb 24 15:45:04 2018
From: pctl at marcusschwartz.com (Town Food)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:45:04 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Sawyer filters and Coffee
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 <1457941176.168419.1519508539448@connect.xfinity.com>
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Because I don't want to ruin a $50 filter if somebody else already has...

  -=Marcus

On 02/24/2018 01:42 PM, Jim & Jane Moody wrote:
> I'll take a shot. The Sawyer filter is supposed to remove everything > 1 
> micron in diameter. I'd say the Gatorade and similar drinks would clog 
> it up fast. I'm not sure about coffee, but it probably would have to be 
> completely dissolved before being strained. I'd avoid flavored or 
> sweetened coffee mixes. Maybe mix it up the night before and let it 
> dissolve all night?
> 
> Why not try it at home and report back.
> 
> Good luck,
> Mango
> 
>  > On February 24, 2018 at 4:23 PM Town Food <pctl at marcusschwartz.com> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > Has anybody tried running coffee through a Sawyer filter? Does it taste
>  > different, or remove caffeine or the like? I'm also curious about other
>  > drinks, like Gatorade or tea. Does it clog the filter faster?
>  >
>  > It seems like it would be nice to be able to have cold instant coffee in
>  > my first water bottle of the day, but I drink straight through the
>  > filter and don't carry any clean bottles.
>  >
>  > -=Marcus
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From richardb10 at live.com  Sat Feb 24 21:29:26 2018
From: richardb10 at live.com (Richard Brinkman)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 03:29:26 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] Sawyer filters and Coffee
In-Reply-To: <e2bbf807-1875-89cb-39e5-8724881848f1@marcusschwartz.com>
References: <e2bbf807-1875-89cb-39e5-8724881848f1@marcusschwartz.com>
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I would not put anything through the filter aside from water.

Roadwalker


-----Original Message-----
From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Town Food
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:24 PM
To: PCT MailingList
Subject: [pct-l] Sawyer filters and Coffee

Has anybody tried running coffee through a Sawyer filter?  Does it taste
different, or remove caffeine or the like?  I'm also curious about other
drinks, like Gatorade or tea.  Does it clog the filter faster?

It seems like it would be nice to be able to have cold instant coffee in my
first water bottle of the day, but I drink straight through the filter and
don't carry any clean bottles.

  -=Marcus
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From david at emeraldlake.com  Sun Feb 25 01:24:16 2018
From: david at emeraldlake.com (David Plotnikoff)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 23:24:16 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
Message-ID: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>

Hi Brick (and PCT-l as a group)

A long-time list lurker here (David Plotnikoff). As in 20+ years on the 
list.

About two years ago, my weekly digests of the posts simply stopped. 
Full-on dead. Brick, I did what you asked and checked spam filters. 
Nothing changed on my end.

So that was the point for me, unable to receive posts, where PCT-l 
essentially died.

Was it just me? Was it a legion of other people also being cut off at 
the same time?

Truly, I don't believe it was just some glitch on my Internet service 
provider end.

What was to accout for roughly 95 percent of the message traffic on 
PCT-l dropping off in a period of a few months?

I'm very troubled to be estranged from the community (the Facebook 
groups aren't anything near the same) and really want to see something 
resolved.

David Plotnikoff

www.emeraldlake.com/pctguide

david at emeraldlake.com



From mdonnay at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 25 03:13:30 2018
From: mdonnay at yahoo.com (Michael Donnay)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 09:13:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pct-l] Photos & Captions
References: <887000086.5549551.1519550010448.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <887000086.5549551.1519550010448@mail.yahoo.com>

After many hikes on the trail, I have finished with a collection of thousands of photos.? But years later, I have little way of knowing what is in each photo.? At least they are in sequential order from Campo to Manning.
I wish I had somehow recorded the name of the peak, pass, range, valley, river, lake, meadow, hiker, etc in each photo.? Has anyone figured out an easy way of doing this?? Does it require some special camera equipment?
Thanks,Mike

From pctl at marcusschwartz.com  Sun Feb 25 03:33:47 2018
From: pctl at marcusschwartz.com (Town Food)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 01:33:47 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Photos & Captions
In-Reply-To: <887000086.5549551.1519550010448@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <887000086.5549551.1519550010448.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <b0b30510-f2e3-0d98-9c7f-cfe5b2dd7d03@marcusschwartz.com>

For landmarks, assuming these are digital photos, there are a couple 
ways that I know of.  JPEG files usually have extra data attached to 
them in a format called EXIF, and that data can sometimes be used to 
figure out where the photo was taken.

First, and easiest, some cameras have GPS receivers (or other location 
sensors), and will attach your location data to the photo in an EXIF 
tag.  Most smartphones do this by default.  This data can later be read 
by appropriate software.  E.g. I've heard of software that will put your 
photos on a map according to where they were taken -- I haven't tried it 
myself though.

Second, digital cameras that don't have GPS will normally at least have 
a clock, and put the time and date of the photo in an EXIF tag.  If you 
have a record of where you were each day (e.g. I wrote down my mileage 
according to the Halfmile app each night), you can infer which stretch 
of the trail the photo is from.

And lastly, when you're not sure where you took a photo but have some 
guesses, you could always just google those guesses and see if they look 
like your photo.

I'm afraid none of that is much help for identifying hikers, though... I 
too wish I'd taken down who was in which photo (and taken more photos of 
people and less of scenery).  I've always wished cameras would let you 
record a short voice clip with your photo, e.g. "Picture of Mike, mile 
2352".

  -=Marcus

On 02/25/2018 01:13 AM, Michael Donnay wrote:
> After many hikes on the trail, I have finished with a collection of
> thousands of photos.  But years later, I have little way of knowing
> what is in each photo.  At least they are in sequential order from
> Campo to Manning. I wish I had somehow recorded the name of the peak,
> pass, range, valley, river, lake, meadow, hiker, etc in each photo.
> Has anyone figured out an easy way of doing this?  Does it require
> some special camera equipment? Thanks,Mike 
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From susanvirnig at gmail.com  Sun Feb 25 09:48:30 2018
From: susanvirnig at gmail.com (Susan Virnig)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:48:30 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
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Over the same period, I have had a similar experience.  But as of two weeks ago, when I signed up with a different email address,  it seems to be working.  I am getting maybe 5 individual posts a week ? way down from when I used to get up to 5 posts a day.  So now are there only about 5 individual posts per week, or am I not getting them all?

I, too, LOVE the PCT-L and it has been so helpful over the last 10 years in my section hiking further and further away from my Spokane home.  Thanks, Brick, for this wonderful tool you have provided us all!  

--Susan from Spokane, aka Sunshine


> On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:24 PM, David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brick (and PCT-l as a group)
> 
> A long-time list lurker here (David Plotnikoff). As in 20+ years on the list.
> 
> About two years ago, my weekly digests of the posts simply stopped. Full-on dead. Brick, I did what you asked and checked spam filters. Nothing changed on my end.
> 
> So that was the point for me, unable to receive posts, where PCT-l essentially died.
> 
> Was it just me? Was it a legion of other people also being cut off at the same time?
> 
> Truly, I don't believe it was just some glitch on my Internet service provider end.
> 
> What was to accout for roughly 95 percent of the message traffic on PCT-l dropping off in a period of a few months?
> 
> I'm very troubled to be estranged from the community (the Facebook groups aren't anything near the same) and really want to see something resolved.
> 
> David Plotnikoff
> 
> www.emeraldlake.com/pctguide
> 
> david at emeraldlake.com
> 
> 
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From JimLBanks at verizon.net  Sun Feb 25 12:54:57 2018
From: JimLBanks at verizon.net (Jim Banks)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 10:54:57 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <4C8043F3-26DB-4AE9-9318-39253712A116@gmail.com>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
 <4C8043F3-26DB-4AE9-9318-39253712A116@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501d3ae6a$23333040$699990c0$@verizon.net>

I also had a similar experience where I was getting some of the posts but not others.  I seem to be getting them all now although there are a lot fewer than in the past.  One way you can check to see if you are getting the posts is to go to the archives.  They are all posted there very shortly after the email is sent.

I reluctantly signed up for Facebook about a year ago just so that I could view the PCT related Facebook pages.  During hiking season you can get some useful information about trail conditions, but most of it is just stupid and juvenile.

Jim "I-Beam" Banks 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Susan Virnig
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 7:49 AM
To: david at emeraldlake.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that once lived here

Over the same period, I have had a similar experience.  But as of two weeks ago, when I signed up with a different email address,  it seems to be working.  I am getting maybe 5 individual posts a week ? way down from when I used to get up to 5 posts a day.  So now are there only about 5 individual posts per week, or am I not getting them all?

I, too, LOVE the PCT-L and it has been so helpful over the last 10 years in my section hiking further and further away from my Spokane home.  Thanks, Brick, for this wonderful tool you have provided us all!  

--Susan from Spokane, aka Sunshine


> On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:24 PM, David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brick (and PCT-l as a group)
> 
> A long-time list lurker here (David Plotnikoff). As in 20+ years on the list.
> 
> About two years ago, my weekly digests of the posts simply stopped. Full-on dead. Brick, I did what you asked and checked spam filters. Nothing changed on my end.
> 
> So that was the point for me, unable to receive posts, where PCT-l essentially died.
> 
> Was it just me? Was it a legion of other people also being cut off at the same time?
> 
> Truly, I don't believe it was just some glitch on my Internet service provider end.
> 
> What was to accout for roughly 95 percent of the message traffic on PCT-l dropping off in a period of a few months?
> 
> I'm very troubled to be estranged from the community (the Facebook groups aren't anything near the same) and really want to see something resolved.
> 
> David Plotnikoff
> 
> www.emeraldlake.com/pctguide
> 
> david at emeraldlake.com
> 
> 
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From jroth2353 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 25 13:26:56 2018
From: jroth2353 at gmail.com (Joe Roth)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:26:56 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
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Good question, I?m also a member of several p c t Facebook groups. Could they have migrated?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:24 PM, David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com> wrote:

Hi Brick (and PCT-l as a group)

A long-time list lurker here (David Plotnikoff). As in 20+ years on the list.

About two years ago, my weekly digests of the posts simply stopped. Full-on dead. Brick, I did what you asked and checked spam filters. Nothing changed on my end.

So that was the point for me, unable to receive posts, where PCT-l essentially died.

Was it just me? Was it a legion of other people also being cut off at the same time?

Truly, I don't believe it was just some glitch on my Internet service provider end.

What was to accout for roughly 95 percent of the message traffic on PCT-l dropping off in a period of a few months?

I'm very troubled to be estranged from the community (the Facebook groups aren't anything near the same) and really want to see something resolved.

David Plotnikoff

www.emeraldlake.com/pctguide

david at emeraldlake.com


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From jroth2353 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 25 18:55:28 2018
From: jroth2353 at gmail.com (Joe Roth)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:55:28 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Photos & Captions
In-Reply-To: <b0b30510-f2e3-0d98-9c7f-cfe5b2dd7d03@marcusschwartz.com>
References: <887000086.5549551.1519550010448.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <887000086.5549551.1519550010448@mail.yahoo.com>
 <b0b30510-f2e3-0d98-9c7f-cfe5b2dd7d03@marcusschwartz.com>
Message-ID: <38C96EBD-92F4-48B2-876E-9F12C13F2D8B@gmail.com>

My I phone can record live shots. It?ll take a short video which allows me to say ;June 22, 2018, Mack, mount Whitney.? Or some such information. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Town Food <pctl at marcusschwartz.com> wrote:

For landmarks, assuming these are digital photos, there are a couple ways that I know of.  JPEG files usually have extra data attached to them in a format called EXIF, and that data can sometimes be used to figure out where the photo was taken.

First, and easiest, some cameras have GPS receivers (or other location sensors), and will attach your location data to the photo in an EXIF tag.  Most smartphones do this by default.  This data can later be read by appropriate software.  E.g. I've heard of software that will put your photos on a map according to where they were taken -- I haven't tried it myself though.

Second, digital cameras that don't have GPS will normally at least have a clock, and put the time and date of the photo in an EXIF tag.  If you have a record of where you were each day (e.g. I wrote down my mileage according to the Halfmile app each night), you can infer which stretch of the trail the photo is from.

And lastly, when you're not sure where you took a photo but have some guesses, you could always just google those guesses and see if they look like your photo.

I'm afraid none of that is much help for identifying hikers, though... I too wish I'd taken down who was in which photo (and taken more photos of people and less of scenery).  I've always wished cameras would let you record a short voice clip with your photo, e.g. "Picture of Mike, mile 2352".

-=Marcus

> On 02/25/2018 01:13 AM, Michael Donnay wrote:
> After many hikes on the trail, I have finished with a collection of
> thousands of photos.  But years later, I have little way of knowing
> what is in each photo.  At least they are in sequential order from
> Campo to Manning. I wish I had somehow recorded the name of the peak,
> pass, range, valley, river, lake, meadow, hiker, etc in each photo.
> Has anyone figured out an easy way of doing this?  Does it require
> some special camera equipment? Thanks,Mike _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
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From pctl at oakapple.net  Sun Feb 25 10:15:22 2018
From: pctl at oakapple.net (David Hough reading PCT-L)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 08:15:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [pct-l] Whatever happened to pct-l?
Message-ID: <201802251615.w1PGFMrh020444@server-f.oakapple.net>


David Plotnikoff - who in a previous technological era wrote 
under the name "modem driver" - asks what happened here.

The answer is that pct-l is still working with a lot of people
subscribed, mostly useful ones, as you discover if you ask a specific
question.    I still gets lots of help when I ask.
But

1) But we are in a new technological era of social media, and most of
the input, and most of the output, and almost all of the noise, has
gone to Facebook.    They are welcome to it, especially the noise.

I have been running a similar sort of email list using similar mailman
software:

http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/gocamino

Looking back at its archives, I see the first month that nothing was
posted was November 2014.    By 2017, there were only postings in two months.

2) Part of the problem might have been that a lot of ISP's had a lot of
trouble discriminating between email list postings and spam and over time a lot
of list subscribers got weeded out because their ISP's bounced the list
mail as spam.    
The email from the email list server that they were getting unsubscribed
also bounced in those cases.     I think these kinds of issues have mostly
been straightened out but they were intense for a while, just about the
time people started switching to Facebook.

3) mailman digests just don't seem to work any more when the volume of 
postings is too low.     That might be a problem with the mailman software,
or maybe it's the ISP problem.    But there is no longer any need to subscribe
to pct-l in digest form, the volume is quite acceptable and low in noise.

So change your subscription option to not digest.


>From the looks of the archives,
the same thing has been happening on cdt-l on backcountry.net.
I wonder about corresponding AT lists.



From troopharrison at gmail.com  Sun Feb 25 16:35:23 2018
From: troopharrison at gmail.com (Sabrina Harrison)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:35:23 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <000501d3ae6a$23333040$699990c0$@verizon.net>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
 <4C8043F3-26DB-4AE9-9318-39253712A116@gmail.com>
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The facebook groups are so immature. I love this group! Hi guys!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jim Banks <JimLBanks at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> I also had a similar experience where I was getting some of the posts but not others.  I seem to be getting them all now although there are a lot fewer than in the past.  One way you can check to see if you are getting the posts is to go to the archives.  They are all posted there very shortly after the email is sent.
> 
> I reluctantly signed up for Facebook about a year ago just so that I could view the PCT related Facebook pages.  During hiking season you can get some useful information about trail conditions, but most of it is just stupid and juvenile.
> 
> Jim "I-Beam" Banks 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Susan Virnig
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 7:49 AM
> To: david at emeraldlake.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that once lived here
> 
> Over the same period, I have had a similar experience.  But as of two weeks ago, when I signed up with a different email address,  it seems to be working.  I am getting maybe 5 individual posts a week ? way down from when I used to get up to 5 posts a day.  So now are there only about 5 individual posts per week, or am I not getting them all?
> 
> I, too, LOVE the PCT-L and it has been so helpful over the last 10 years in my section hiking further and further away from my Spokane home.  Thanks, Brick, for this wonderful tool you have provided us all!  
> 
> --Susan from Spokane, aka Sunshine
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:24 PM, David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brick (and PCT-l as a group)
>> 
>> A long-time list lurker here (David Plotnikoff). As in 20+ years on the list.
>> 
>> About two years ago, my weekly digests of the posts simply stopped. Full-on dead. Brick, I did what you asked and checked spam filters. Nothing changed on my end.
>> 
>> So that was the point for me, unable to receive posts, where PCT-l essentially died.
>> 
>> Was it just me? Was it a legion of other people also being cut off at the same time?
>> 
>> Truly, I don't believe it was just some glitch on my Internet service provider end.
>> 
>> What was to accout for roughly 95 percent of the message traffic on PCT-l dropping off in a period of a few months?
>> 
>> I'm very troubled to be estranged from the community (the Facebook groups aren't anything near the same) and really want to see something resolved.
>> 
>> David Plotnikoff
>> 
>> www.emeraldlake.com/pctguide
>> 
>> david at emeraldlake.com
>> 
>> 
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From anngerckens at gmail.com  Sun Feb 25 23:07:19 2018
From: anngerckens at gmail.com (Ann Gerckens)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:07:19 -0500
Subject: [pct-l] Photos & Captions
In-Reply-To: <38C96EBD-92F4-48B2-876E-9F12C13F2D8B@gmail.com>
References: <887000086.5549551.1519550010448.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <887000086.5549551.1519550010448@mail.yahoo.com>
 <b0b30510-f2e3-0d98-9c7f-cfe5b2dd7d03@marcusschwartz.com>
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An acquaintance of mine used to come visit me after doing an AT section so I could tell which picture was of what.?

Ann Gerckens, Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2018, at 7:55 PM, Joe Roth <jroth2353 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My I phone can record live shots. It?ll take a short video which allows me to say ;June 22, 2018, Mack, mount Whitney.? Or some such information. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 25, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Town Food <pctl at marcusschwartz.com> wrote:
> 
> For landmarks, assuming these are digital photos, there are a couple ways that I know of.  JPEG files usually have extra data attached to them in a format called EXIF, and that data can sometimes be used to figure out where the photo was taken.
> 
> First, and easiest, some cameras have GPS receivers (or other location sensors), and will attach your location data to the photo in an EXIF tag.  Most smartphones do this by default.  This data can later be read by appropriate software.  E.g. I've heard of software that will put your photos on a map according to where they were taken -- I haven't tried it myself though.
> 
> Second, digital cameras that don't have GPS will normally at least have a clock, and put the time and date of the photo in an EXIF tag.  If you have a record of where you were each day (e.g. I wrote down my mileage according to the Halfmile app each night), you can infer which stretch of the trail the photo is from.
> 
> And lastly, when you're not sure where you took a photo but have some guesses, you could always just google those guesses and see if they look like your photo.
> 
> I'm afraid none of that is much help for identifying hikers, though... I too wish I'd taken down who was in which photo (and taken more photos of people and less of scenery).  I've always wished cameras would let you record a short voice clip with your photo, e.g. "Picture of Mike, mile 2352".
> 
> -=Marcus
> 
>> On 02/25/2018 01:13 AM, Michael Donnay wrote:
>> After many hikes on the trail, I have finished with a collection of
>> thousands of photos.  But years later, I have little way of knowing
>> what is in each photo.  At least they are in sequential order from
>> Campo to Manning. I wish I had somehow recorded the name of the peak,
>> pass, range, valley, river, lake, meadow, hiker, etc in each photo.
>> Has anyone figured out an easy way of doing this?  Does it require
>> some special camera equipment? Thanks,Mike _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
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>> prohibited without express permission.
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From gary_schenk at verizon.net  Mon Feb 26 09:47:07 2018
From: gary_schenk at verizon.net (Gary Schenk)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:47:07 -0500
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
Message-ID: <161d2cbce58-1550-4a82@webjas-vae045.srv.aolmail.net>


 It's been overwhelmed by new technology. Much like the PCT itself.

Gary

 

 




From richarrant at gmail.com  Mon Feb 26 13:50:51 2018
From: richarrant at gmail.com (Rich Arrant)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:50:51 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
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References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
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I'm not sure the list is overwhelmed, I am looking into the archives for
info and read every note any one puts up. I come here first and then have
(I feel) a basis to judge the Facebook scholars information on.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:47 AM, Gary Schenk <gary_schenk at verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>  It's been overwhelmed by new technology. Much like the PCT itself.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From richardb10 at live.com  Sun Feb 25 21:58:56 2018
From: richardb10 at live.com (Richard Brinkman)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 03:58:56 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
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Hi GG!

Roadwalker

-----Original Message-----
From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Sabrina Harrison
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 2:35 PM
To: Jim Banks
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; david at emeraldlake.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that once lived here

The facebook groups are so immature. I love this group! Hi guys!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jim Banks <JimLBanks at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> I also had a similar experience where I was getting some of the posts but not others.  I seem to be getting them all now although there are a lot fewer than in the past.  One way you can check to see if you are getting the posts is to go to the archives.  They are all posted there very shortly after the email is sent.
> 
> I reluctantly signed up for Facebook about a year ago just so that I could view the PCT related Facebook pages.  During hiking season you can get some useful information about trail conditions, but most of it is just stupid and juvenile.
> 
> Jim "I-Beam" Banks 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Susan Virnig
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 7:49 AM
> To: david at emeraldlake.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that once lived here
> 
> Over the same period, I have had a similar experience.  But as of two weeks ago, when I signed up with a different email address,  it seems to be working.  I am getting maybe 5 individual posts a week ? way down from when I used to get up to 5 posts a day.  So now are there only about 5 individual posts per week, or am I not getting them all?
> 
> I, too, LOVE the PCT-L and it has been so helpful over the last 10 years in my section hiking further and further away from my Spokane home.  Thanks, Brick, for this wonderful tool you have provided us all!  
> 
> --Susan from Spokane, aka Sunshine
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:24 PM, David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brick (and PCT-l as a group)
>> 
>> A long-time list lurker here (David Plotnikoff). As in 20+ years on the list.
>> 
>> About two years ago, my weekly digests of the posts simply stopped. Full-on dead. Brick, I did what you asked and checked spam filters. Nothing changed on my end.
>> 
>> So that was the point for me, unable to receive posts, where PCT-l essentially died.
>> 
>> Was it just me? Was it a legion of other people also being cut off at the same time?
>> 
>> Truly, I don't believe it was just some glitch on my Internet service provider end.
>> 
>> What was to accout for roughly 95 percent of the message traffic on PCT-l dropping off in a period of a few months?
>> 
>> I'm very troubled to be estranged from the community (the Facebook groups aren't anything near the same) and really want to see something resolved.
>> 
>> David Plotnikoff
>> 
>> www.emeraldlake.com/pctguide
>> 
>> david at emeraldlake.com
>> 
>> 
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From baidarker at gmail.com  Sun Feb 25 23:33:56 2018
From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 05:33:56 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <B27223D4-BC4B-445A-A110-EA5F7047D874@gmail.com>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
 <4C8043F3-26DB-4AE9-9318-39253712A116@gmail.com>
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Yup, PCTL still rocks. Thank you Brick for all the years of good stuff and
sound advice. It?s still my favorite hiker forum.

I just finished a walk and will have more time to chuck in my two cents as
the season approaches.

Shroomer

On Mon, Feb 26, 30 Heisei at 4:09 PM Sabrina Harrison <
troopharrison at gmail.com> wrote:

> The facebook groups are so immature. I love this group! Hi guys!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 25, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Jim Banks <JimLBanks at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > I also had a similar experience where I was getting some of the posts
> but not others.  I seem to be getting them all now although there are a lot
> fewer than in the past.  One way you can check to see if you are getting
> the posts is to go to the archives.  They are all posted there very shortly
> after the email is sent.
> >
> > I reluctantly signed up for Facebook about a year ago just so that I
> could view the PCT related Facebook pages.  During hiking season you can
> get some useful information about trail conditions, but most of it is just
> stupid and juvenile.
> >
> > Jim "I-Beam" Banks
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Susan
> Virnig
> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 7:49 AM
> > To: david at emeraldlake.com
> > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic
> that once lived here
> >
> > Over the same period, I have had a similar experience.  But as of two
> weeks ago, when I signed up with a different email address,  it seems to be
> working.  I am getting maybe 5 individual posts a week ? way down from when
> I used to get up to 5 posts a day.  So now are there only about 5
> individual posts per week, or am I not getting them all?
> >
> > I, too, LOVE the PCT-L and it has been so helpful over the last 10 years
> in my section hiking further and further away from my Spokane home.
> Thanks, Brick, for this wonderful tool you have provided us all!
> >
> > --Susan from Spokane, aka Sunshine
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:24 PM, David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Brick (and PCT-l as a group)
> >>
> >> A long-time list lurker here (David Plotnikoff). As in 20+ years on the
> list.
> >>
> >> About two years ago, my weekly digests of the posts simply stopped.
> Full-on dead. Brick, I did what you asked and checked spam filters. Nothing
> changed on my end.
> >>
> >> So that was the point for me, unable to receive posts, where PCT-l
> essentially died.
> >>
> >> Was it just me? Was it a legion of other people also being cut off at
> the same time?
> >>
> >> Truly, I don't believe it was just some glitch on my Internet service
> provider end.
> >>
> >> What was to accout for roughly 95 percent of the message traffic on
> PCT-l dropping off in a period of a few months?
> >>
> >> I'm very troubled to be estranged from the community (the Facebook
> groups aren't anything near the same) and really want to see something
> resolved.
> >>
> >> David Plotnikoff
> >>
> >> www.emeraldlake.com/pctguide
> >>
> >> david at emeraldlake.com
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Pct-L mailing list
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> >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
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> >
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From HStroh at sjmslaw.com  Tue Feb 27 14:24:51 2018
From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 20:24:51 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <CAGxcj12frkmV57uzv9_2+cJnPZUResJCdLKN9Pirj-XOf41etA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
 <4C8043F3-26DB-4AE9-9318-39253712A116@gmail.com>
 <000501d3ae6a$23333040$699990c0$@verizon.net>
 <B27223D4-BC4B-445A-A110-EA5F7047D874@gmail.com>
 <CAGxcj12frkmV57uzv9_2+cJnPZUResJCdLKN9Pirj-XOf41etA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cbf0cbf6c9b34f67929272377b3334c5@MALAWI.SJLM.local>

Agree with Shroomer and all of those stating their preference for this list over Facebook. Trying to get info via Facebook is like trying to have a conversation with a crowd while walking in opposite directions. Then add the inevitable trolling that comes with that brand of social media, and it simply fails to inform or provide entertaining exchanges.

Perhaps those of us that prefer this medium need to be more active in posting questions and general points of discussion to re-enliven the List.

Herb

-----Original Message-----
From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Scott Williams
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 9:34 PM
To: Sabrina Harrison <troopharrison at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; david at emeraldlake.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that once lived here

Yup, PCTL still rocks. Thank you Brick for all the years of good stuff and sound advice. It?s still my favorite hiker forum.

I just finished a walk and will have more time to chuck in my two cents as the season approaches.

Shroomer

From scott.diamond.mail at gmail.com  Tue Feb 27 15:23:55 2018
From: scott.diamond.mail at gmail.com (Scott Diamond)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:23:55 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic that
 once lived here
In-Reply-To: <cbf0cbf6c9b34f67929272377b3334c5@MALAWI.SJLM.local>
References: <60e4e524-0983-bd8d-f6bc-99429cf81c11@emeraldlake.com>
 <4C8043F3-26DB-4AE9-9318-39253712A116@gmail.com>
 <000501d3ae6a$23333040$699990c0$@verizon.net>
 <B27223D4-BC4B-445A-A110-EA5F7047D874@gmail.com>
 <CAGxcj12frkmV57uzv9_2+cJnPZUResJCdLKN9Pirj-XOf41etA@mail.gmail.com>
 <cbf0cbf6c9b34f67929272377b3334c5@MALAWI.SJLM.local>
Message-ID: <CAH8m_au-uMoX3A1E+jq718nK0VntAk00pji8f_vRAZbmc05Ukg@mail.gmail.com>

But Facebook isn't the only option. There is a Reddit PCT Discussion section
<https://www.reddit.com/r/PacificCrestTrail/> which is quite active. I just
looked at it and there were about a dozen posts just today. The discussion
on Reddit is very similar to the topics that are/were discussed on this
group. Personally I like Reddit more, insofar as the mechanics of handling
topics. Topics are organized in threads, I can save a whole thread and
follow comments on with one click, it hands split discussion on a topic.
I'm at loss to see a benefit of the PCT-L over Reddit. It is nice to have
one place to go to instead of checking multiple sites. I realize there is a
historic attachment to this e-mail list but maybe we should all move to
Reddit and put this list to rest?

      -Rover



On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Herb Stroh <HStroh at sjmslaw.com> wrote:

> Agree with Shroomer and all of those stating their preference for this
> list over Facebook. Trying to get info via Facebook is like trying to have
> a conversation with a crowd while walking in opposite directions. Then add
> the inevitable trolling that comes with that brand of social media, and it
> simply fails to inform or provide entertaining exchanges.
>
> Perhaps those of us that prefer this medium need to be more active in
> posting questions and general points of discussion to re-enliven the List.
>
> Herb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Scott
> Williams
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 9:34 PM
> To: Sabrina Harrison <troopharrison at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; david at emeraldlake.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-l ... and the message traffic
> that once lived here
>
> Yup, PCTL still rocks. Thank you Brick for all the years of good stuff and
> sound advice. It?s still my favorite hiker forum.
>
> I just finished a walk and will have more time to chuck in my two cents as
> the season approaches.
>
> Shroomer
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From ned at mountaineducation.org  Tue Feb 27 16:08:25 2018
From: ned at mountaineducation.org (ned at mountaineducation.org)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 14:08:25 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Sierra Snow Event Coming!
Message-ID: <050401d3b017$7dd258b0$79770a10$@mountaineducation.org>

https://www.facebook.com/pg/NWSSacramento/photos/?tab=album
<https://www.facebook.com/pg/NWSSacramento/photos/?tab=album&album_id=166558
9353477066> &album_id=1665589353477066 

 

National Weather Service Sacramento just released this warning to all Sierra
highway travelers for a snow event that may drop up to 80 inches of snow on
the summits of northern California passes between this Wednesday 2/28 and
Friday 2/31!

 

If you have desires to travel over any of the affected highway passes, do so
by Wednesday afternoon.or stay put!

 

 

Ned Tibbits, Director

Mountain Education, Inc.

ned at mountaineducation.org <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org>