From brick at brickrobbins.com  Sat Dec  1 15:33:16 2018
From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 13:33:16 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Next Long Trail?
Message-ID: <CALV1NzmFLGV-d1LML1QDYKVyJHj7F8pJYut=3N7Wr+4fqTmLJg@mail.gmail.com>

This makes me want to head south.

https://www.afar.com/magazine/chile-opens-1700-mile-hiking-trail-connecting-17-national-parks

From dzallis at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 13:08:43 2018
From: dzallis at gmail.com (David Zallis)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 13:08:43 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] Next Long Trail?
In-Reply-To: <CALV1NzmFLGV-d1LML1QDYKVyJHj7F8pJYut=3N7Wr+4fqTmLJg@mail.gmail.com>
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This looks amazing! Thanks for sharing

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018, 3:33 PM Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com wrote:

> This makes me want to head south.
>
>
> https://www.afar.com/magazine/chile-opens-1700-mile-hiking-trail-connecting-17-national-parks
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From douglastow at gmail.com  Sun Dec  9 11:56:26 2018
From: douglastow at gmail.com (Douglas Tow)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 09:56:26 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Excess bear cans
Message-ID: <CAOOqOOuEbj4byUy1V9d_ZXTHekae+YX4pi=hogELwX97KQpY_w@mail.gmail.com>

If you have a bear canister you can lend for the 2019 season, consider
posting on his list or (ugh, Facebook) to connect with someone who needs
one.  It's particularly valuable to overseas hikers - bear can logistics
are a big stressor for some. Coordinating with you, they get a delivery to
KM or elsewhere, and mail it back to you when they are done.

I lend several, but I have already committed them to 2019 overseas hikers.
I would be happy to take on your bear canister for this purpose permanently
if you don't think you will ever need it again.

Chipmunk

From cmalex at gmail.com  Sat Dec 15 18:56:10 2018
From: cmalex at gmail.com (Chris Alexander)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:56:10 -0700
Subject: [pct-l] PCT photography book 50% off, plus free shipping
In-Reply-To: <CAGxcj10mQaPJaK27+-UvF=xMFxfdCDAc2sovw9wWxnu+fnmPOw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJRhYcH_QEVXcYP1X8LgDn_SNAJzeRX62Pzj7wF3nJXHuGxXow@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGxcj10mQaPJaK27+-UvF=xMFxfdCDAc2sovw9wWxnu+fnmPOw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,

By the way, the last day to order for Christmas delivery is Wednesday --
see links below. Happy holidays!

http://wanderingthewild.com/book
http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Crest-Trail-Journey-Photographs/dp/B01528MDNG

Thanks,
Chris

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:47 PM Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will second all that. Shutterbug has done a marvelous job of visually
> bringing it all back. It?s still one of my favorites for just sitting back
> and reliving my PCT hike. It?s a great Christmas, Kwanza, Chanukah, gift.
> Simply a beautiful book.  And disclaimer, I don?t know Shutterbug, I just
> love his book.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shroomer
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 10:59 AM Chris Alexander <cmalex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Anna "Northstar" Sofranko and I have put our hardback Pacific Crest Trail
>> photography book on sale for 50% off plus free shipping! The book features
>> many beautiful photographs of the wilderness we all love. It makes a great
>> gift for trail friends, your home support team, or yourself. Preview and
>> buy the book here (ships to US only):
>>
>> http://wanderingthewild.com/book
>>
>> You can also buy from Amazon (ships to a variety of countries):
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Crest-Trail-Journey-Photographs/dp/B01528MDNG
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris "Shutterbug" Alexander
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From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Tue Dec 25 18:29:31 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 16:29:31 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
Message-ID: <17f5bb9a-2e2c-b26b-0733-a1f379f9cdaf@cox.net>

Say Switchback,
I recently got back from an extended Island hopping trip.
New Zealand & Hawaii have some great Mountains for fantastic and 
interesting backpacking.
I have been off list for some time and am astonished that the list seems 
to have died since you and many
of the other "Hardcore" hikers went off list.
I see only 4 posts in the December Archives as of December 25.
The list used to be vibrant and full off activity with 10-15 posts a day 
when you where active on the list.
You were the "Spark Plug" on the list and kept it interesting and fun 
with your "Trail Humor" & "Trail Advice".
It is not the same anymore and the lack of participation shows that.

THE? LIST? NEEDS? YOU? SWITCHBACK!!!

JMT Reinhold

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From dhbmallard at comcast.net  Wed Dec 26 11:31:13 2018
From: dhbmallard at comcast.net (Dave Baugher)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:31:13 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Castle Craig's to Callahan's
Message-ID: <627DB622FBD14E179B2AE3BCACDC7A20@HomeOffice>

Greetings,

I?m considering tackling the Castle Craig?s to Callahan?s section the week after Easter.  Aside from watching the snow pack in the area as winter progresses, does the group have any other advice?

Started section hiking northward from Campo in 2014.

Dave aka ?Chief?

From temp3 at mflan.com  Wed Dec 26 15:42:59 2018
From: temp3 at mflan.com (Mike)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:42:59 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1545847200.98414.pct-l@backcountry.net>
References: <mailman.1.1545847200.98414.pct-l@backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <cb0fed7a-81ed-0eea-beb5-b950a23f5b24@mflan.com>


Your right.? It seems to be a pattern with mailing lists.
Most tend to die off as the years pass.

Too bad, because I'm not going to other social media formats.
I would rather do without.

Hawaii is real nice.? I've only been there once, but
I plan to go back.


Mike


On 12/26/2018 12:00 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> Say Switchback,
> I recently got back from an extended Island hopping trip.
> New Zealand & Hawaii have some great Mountains for fantastic and
> interesting backpacking.
> I have been off list for some time and am astonished that the list seems
> to have died since you and many
> of the other "Hardcore" hikers went off list.
> I see only 4 posts in the December Archives as of December 25.
> The list used to be vibrant and full off activity with 10-15 posts a day
> when you where active on the list.
> You were the "Spark Plug" on the list and kept it interesting and fun
> with your "Trail Humor" & "Trail Advice".
> It is not the same anymore and the lack of participation shows that.
>
> THE? LIST? NEEDS? YOU? SWITCHBACK!!!
>
> JMT Reinhold


From richardb10 at live.com  Wed Dec 26 17:16:45 2018
From: richardb10 at live.com (Richard Brinkman)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 23:16:45 +0000
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
In-Reply-To: <cb0fed7a-81ed-0eea-beb5-b950a23f5b24@mflan.com>
References: <mailman.1.1545847200.98414.pct-l@backcountry.net>
 <cb0fed7a-81ed-0eea-beb5-b950a23f5b24@mflan.com>
Message-ID: <BY2PR16MB0885A42FE68A117715A3A290A7B50@BY2PR16MB0885.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

It is too bad.  Sad really...  Please come back Switchback, Squatch, Yogi, Marmot, GoGo, and all others.  The ever increasing technology is not progress.  Not here nor for our society.

Roadwalker


-----Original Message-----
From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:43 PM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Cc: reinholdmetzger at cox.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT List


Your right.  It seems to be a pattern with mailing lists.
Most tend to die off as the years pass.

Too bad, because I'm not going to other social media formats.
I would rather do without.

Hawaii is real nice.  I've only been there once, but
I plan to go back.


Mike


On 12/26/2018 12:00 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> Say Switchback,
> I recently got back from an extended Island hopping trip.
> New Zealand & Hawaii have some great Mountains for fantastic and
> interesting backpacking.
> I have been off list for some time and am astonished that the list seems
> to have died since you and many
> of the other "Hardcore" hikers went off list.
> I see only 4 posts in the December Archives as of December 25.
> The list used to be vibrant and full off activity with 10-15 posts a day
> when you where active on the list.
> You were the "Spark Plug" on the list and kept it interesting and fun
> with your "Trail Humor" & "Trail Advice".
> It is not the same anymore and the lack of participation shows that.
>
> THE? LIST? NEEDS? YOU? SWITCHBACK!!!
>
> JMT Reinhold

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From susanvirnig at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 17:24:46 2018
From: susanvirnig at gmail.com (Susan Virnig)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 15:24:46 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
In-Reply-To: <BY2PR16MB0885A42FE68A117715A3A290A7B50@BY2PR16MB0885.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
References: <mailman.1.1545847200.98414.pct-l@backcountry.net>
 <cb0fed7a-81ed-0eea-beb5-b950a23f5b24@mflan.com>
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Message-ID: <19B7662A-9894-4CAA-9EA8-0C1744F0F1BD@gmail.com>

True, this is not as active as it once was, but as a section hiker with ?only? 900 miles remaining to complete the PCT, I am much indebted to the wisdom and kindness and good advice I have found thru this community.  Just know that you all are very appreciated by many of us.

--Sunshine (Susan from Spokane)

> On Dec 26, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Richard Brinkman <richardb10 at live.com> wrote:
> 
> It is too bad.  Sad really...  Please come back Switchback, Squatch, Yogi, Marmot, GoGo, and all others.  The ever increasing technology is not progress.  Not here nor for our society.
> 
> Roadwalker
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:43 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT List
> 
> 
> Your right.  It seems to be a pattern with mailing lists.
> Most tend to die off as the years pass.
> 
> Too bad, because I'm not going to other social media formats.
> I would rather do without.
> 
> Hawaii is real nice.  I've only been there once, but
> I plan to go back.
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On 12/26/2018 12:00 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>> Say Switchback,
>> I recently got back from an extended Island hopping trip.
>> New Zealand & Hawaii have some great Mountains for fantastic and
>> interesting backpacking.
>> I have been off list for some time and am astonished that the list seems
>> to have died since you and many
>> of the other "Hardcore" hikers went off list.
>> I see only 4 posts in the December Archives as of December 25.
>> The list used to be vibrant and full off activity with 10-15 posts a day
>> when you where active on the list.
>> You were the "Spark Plug" on the list and kept it interesting and fun
>> with your "Trail Humor" & "Trail Advice".
>> It is not the same anymore and the lack of participation shows that.
>> 
>> THE? LIST? NEEDS? YOU? SWITCHBACK!!!
>> 
>> JMT Reinhold
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Pct-L at backcountry.net
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From moodyjj at comcast.net  Wed Dec 26 19:07:05 2018
From: moodyjj at comcast.net (JAMES MOODY)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:07:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
In-Reply-To: <19B7662A-9894-4CAA-9EA8-0C1744F0F1BD@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1545847200.98414.pct-l@backcountry.net>
 <cb0fed7a-81ed-0eea-beb5-b950a23f5b24@mflan.com>
 <BY2PR16MB0885A42FE68A117715A3A290A7B50@BY2PR16MB0885.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
 <19B7662A-9894-4CAA-9EA8-0C1744F0F1BD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <530493086.152420.1545872825644@connect.xfinity.com>

I too am glad to see some list posts.  I posted a question last week and never saw my question come up, or even saw a reply.  So I'll use this reply to re-ask.

Did the recent approval of the Dept of Interior budget include funding for the LWCF?  TIA.

Mango

> On December 26, 2018 at 6:24 PM Susan Virnig <susanvirnig at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> True, this is not as active as it once was, but as a section hiker with ?only? 900 miles remaining to complete the PCT, I am much indebted to the wisdom and kindness and good advice I have found thru this community.  Just know that you all are very appreciated by many of us.
> 
> --Sunshine (Susan from Spokane)
> 
> > On Dec 26, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Richard Brinkman <richardb10 at live.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It is too bad.  Sad really...  Please come back Switchback, Squatch, Yogi, Marmot, GoGo, and all others.  The ever increasing technology is not progress.  Not here nor for our society.
> > 
> > Roadwalker
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Mike
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:43 PM
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Cc: reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT List
> > 
> > 
> > Your right.  It seems to be a pattern with mailing lists.
> > Most tend to die off as the years pass.
> > 
> > Too bad, because I'm not going to other social media formats.
> > I would rather do without.
> > 
> > Hawaii is real nice.  I've only been there once, but
> > I plan to go back.
> > 
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > On 12/26/2018 12:00 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> >> Say Switchback,
> >> I recently got back from an extended Island hopping trip.
> >> New Zealand & Hawaii have some great Mountains for fantastic and
> >> interesting backpacking.
> >> I have been off list for some time and am astonished that the list seems
> >> to have died since you and many
> >> of the other "Hardcore" hikers went off list.
> >> I see only 4 posts in the December Archives as of December 25.
> >> The list used to be vibrant and full off activity with 10-15 posts a day
> >> when you where active on the list.
> >> You were the "Spark Plug" on the list and kept it interesting and fun
> >> with your "Trail Humor" & "Trail Advice".
> >> It is not the same anymore and the lack of participation shows that.
> >> 
> >> THE? LIST? NEEDS? YOU? SWITCHBACK!!!
> >> 
> >> JMT Reinhold
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pct-L mailing list
> > Pct-L at backcountry.net
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From troopharrison at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 20:43:59 2018
From: troopharrison at gmail.com (Sabrina Harrison)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:43:59 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] Trail culture
Message-ID: <4F352538-7D2D-4392-9D4E-B70E6F1F1A4E@gmail.com>

I was just on a road trip telling my daughter about trail angels and towns. It dawned on me how much fun I?ve had - staying with Scout and Frodo - getting sold and shook down at Super Dave?s - Moms apple pie and Carmen in Julian - hitching into Idyllwild - on and on! 

Tell us a story ??

GoGo


Sent from my iPhone

From troopharrison at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 20:47:19 2018
From: troopharrison at gmail.com (Sabrina Harrison)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:47:19 -0600
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
In-Reply-To: <BY2PR16MB0885A42FE68A117715A3A290A7B50@BY2PR16MB0885.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
References: <mailman.1.1545847200.98414.pct-l@backcountry.net>
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I miss the conversations too Roadwalker! I?m heading out in June for a southern Sierras stretch! Who wants to come??
GoGo

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2018, at 5:16 PM, Richard Brinkman <richardb10 at live.com> wrote:
> 
> It is too bad.  Sad really...  Please come back Switchback, Squatch, Yogi, Marmot, GoGo, and all others.  The ever increasing technology is not progress.  Not here nor for our society.
> 
> Roadwalker
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:43 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT List
> 
> 
> Your right.  It seems to be a pattern with mailing lists.
> Most tend to die off as the years pass.
> 
> Too bad, because I'm not going to other social media formats.
> I would rather do without.
> 
> Hawaii is real nice.  I've only been there once, but
> I plan to go back.
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
>> On 12/26/2018 12:00 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>> Say Switchback,
>> I recently got back from an extended Island hopping trip.
>> New Zealand & Hawaii have some great Mountains for fantastic and
>> interesting backpacking.
>> I have been off list for some time and am astonished that the list seems
>> to have died since you and many
>> of the other "Hardcore" hikers went off list.
>> I see only 4 posts in the December Archives as of December 25.
>> The list used to be vibrant and full off activity with 10-15 posts a day
>> when you where active on the list.
>> You were the "Spark Plug" on the list and kept it interesting and fun
>> with your "Trail Humor" & "Trail Advice".
>> It is not the same anymore and the lack of participation shows that.
>> 
>> THE? LIST? NEEDS? YOU? SWITCHBACK!!!
>> 
>> JMT Reinhold
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Pct-L at backcountry.net
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From carlito at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 00:53:50 2018
From: carlito at gmail.com (Carl Siechert)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 22:53:50 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] LWCF
In-Reply-To: <530493086.152420.1545872825644@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <mailman.1.1545847200.98414.pct-l@backcountry.net>
 <cb0fed7a-81ed-0eea-beb5-b950a23f5b24@mflan.com>
 <BY2PR16MB0885A42FE68A117715A3A290A7B50@BY2PR16MB0885.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CAK1x7VmbeVaR5woaAF5BKJc4BeTm5jVZeO-CyqFQ2wQ8sh+eYg@mail.gmail.com>

LWCF is not an Interior budget item, is it?

The real hangup is that the program expired in September, and bills in the
House and Senate to restore it are still stalled.
This blog
<https://www.lwcfcoalition.com/blog/2018/11/1/lwcf-expired-whats-next>
explains the situation. Check thomas.gov to see the status of the two most
likely authorization bills, HR 6759
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6759?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr6759%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1>
and SB 569
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/569?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22s569%22%5D%7D&s=4&r=1>.
(Spoiler alert: Nothing is happening.)


On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 5:07 PM JAMES MOODY <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote:

> I too am glad to see some list posts.  I posted a question last week and
> never saw my question come up, or even saw a reply.  So I'll use this reply
> to re-ask.
>
> Did the recent approval of the Dept of Interior budget include funding for
> the LWCF?  TIA.
>
> Mango
>
>

From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Sat Dec 29 06:17:24 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 04:17:24 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
Message-ID: <af999471-8661-6708-3f83-8f9419bfae68@cox.net>

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Yes,...Sunshine, Roadwalker, and Mike,
Switchback and Reinhold go back to a time when only "Hard Core Mountain 
Men" dared to
roam the trails and Bears & Mountain Lions were nervous.
Switchback was the spark plug on the List and made the List interesting 
and entertaining with
his trail wisdom and humor.
The List needs Switchback's trail humor and wisdom to restore it to it's 
past old glory and make
it, once again, the interesting and entertaining source for trail 
information for the PCT.

JMT Reinhold
..........................................................................


Susan wrote:

/True, this is not as active as it once was, but as a section hiker with 
?only? 900 miles remaining to complete the PCT, I am much indebted to 
the wisdom and kindness and good advice I have found thru this 
community. Just know that you all are very appreciated by many of us. //Sunshine (Susan from Spokane) ............................. //On Dec 26, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Richard Brinkman <richardb10 at live.com 
<http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>> wrote: ////It is too bad. Sad really... Please come back Switchback, Squatch, 
Yogi, Marmot, GoGo, and all others. The ever increasing technology is 
not progress. Not here nor for our society. ////Roadwalker ...........................//////On Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:43 PM Mike wrote: //Your right. It seems to be a pattern with mailing lists. //Most tend to die off as the years pass. ////Too bad, because I'm not going to other social media formats. //I would rather do without. //Hawaii is real nice. I've only been there once, but //I plan to go back. ////Mike //........................ ////On 12/26/2018 12:00 PM, JMT Reinhold <reinholdmetzger at cox.net> wrote: //Say Switchback, //I recently got back from an extended Island hopping trip. //New Zealand & Hawaii have some great Mountains for fantastic and//interesting backpacking. //I have been off list for some time and am astonished that the list seems//to have died since you and many //of the other "Hardcore" hikers went off list. //I see only 4 posts in the December Archives as of December 25. //The list used to be vibrant and full off activity with 10-15 posts a day //when you where active on the list. //You were the "Spark Plug" on the list and kept it interesting and fun//with your "Trail Humor" & "Trail Advice". //It is not the same anymore and the lack of participation shows that. ////THE LIST NEEDS YOU SWITCHBACK!!! ////JMT Reinhold /




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From hiker97 at aol.com  Sat Dec 29 11:15:07 2018
From: hiker97 at aol.com (hiker97 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:15:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pct-l] PCT List
In-Reply-To: <17f5bb9a-2e2c-b26b-0733-a1f379f9cdaf@cox.net>
References: <17f5bb9a-2e2c-b26b-0733-a1f379f9cdaf@cox.net>
Message-ID: <1046160430.3882152.1546103707782@mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, you are right about NZ and HI.? I have been there many times in my younger days.? I am giving most of my hiking gear to my son-in-law.? He is into bike riding on trails big time with his friends and now wants to get into bike hammock camping.? On this holiday trip to TX, I gave him my 900 down camping quilt.? It is a beauty.? Camo design on the outside and black on the inside.? I think it weighs about 27 ounces extra wide and extra long from Enlighten Equipment.? My New?Year's promise is to ride my trike up into the mountains twice a month at least.? It will be hard to give up my Z-Pack cuben gear, but I guess I have to do it, since I cannot walk too far anymore.? Anyway, when I am out on the trike I like to stay at luxury motels with indoor pools and hot tubes.? :-)? Cheers, Switchback the Road Pirate???

From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Sat Dec 29 18:19:25 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:19:25 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: Re: PCT List
In-Reply-To: <1046160430.3882152.1546103707782@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1046160430.3882152.1546103707782@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes Switchback,
I also have been to Hawaii more than one time and love the 
mountains(more on that later).
The first time in 1965 when the whole 1st Marine Division shipped out to 
Vietnam during the
first major combat ground forces build up.
Sorry to hear that your hiking days are over but, it happens to all of 
us sooner or later.
I noticed that my hiking stamina is not what it used to be 10-15 years ago.
10-15 years ago when I was going for the JMT unsupported records I 
trained to stay in shape
doing 25 loops daily going up and down a 86 steps stair well from a 
parking lot to a Student Dorm
at a college in my neighborhood wearing my backpack and "Waffle Stumper" 
hiking boots.
I had not done that for a year or so and decided to try it again a few 
days ago.
Unfortunately, after 10 loops I decided I had enough of it.
See what I mean?....25 loops where not a problem at all in my mid 60's 
but 10 loops seemed harder
at age 78 than 25 loops at age 60.
The list will still appreciate your vast trail knowledge and humor so 
keep it coming Switchback.
I am glad to hear that you will still be riding your trike to the Mountains.
May I suggest that you trade the trike for one of those German World War 
II Side Winder
Motorcycles so poor Mrs. Switchback can sit safely in the Side Winder, 
instead of? hanging? on to
dear life on the back seat, while you are hotroding in the mountains.

JMT Reinhold
...................................................................................................................
Switchback wrote:
Yes, you are right about NZ and HI.
I have been there many times in my younger days.
I am giving most of my hiking gear to my son-in-law.
He is into bike riding on trails big time with his friends and now wants 
to get into bike hammock camping.
On this holiday trip to TX, I gave him my 900 down camping quilt.
It is a beauty.
Camo design on the outside and black on the inside.
I think it weighs about 27 ounces extra wide and extra long from 
Enlighten Equipment.
My New?Year's promise is to ride my trike up into the mountains twice a 
month at least.
It will be hard to give up my Z-Pack cuben gear, but I guess I have to 
do it, since I cannot walk too far anymore.
Anyway, when I am out on the trike I like to stay at luxury motels with 
indoor pools and hot tubes.? :-)

Cheers, Switchback the Road Pirate


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From laurie_h1234 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 30 08:45:21 2018
From: laurie_h1234 at yahoo.com (Laurie Hallum)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:45:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [pct-l] Trail culture
In-Reply-To: <4F352538-7D2D-4392-9D4E-B70E6F1F1A4E@gmail.com>
References: <4F352538-7D2D-4392-9D4E-B70E6F1F1A4E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <257770521.3825493.1546181121899@mail.yahoo.com>

 ? ? ?I have enjoyed reading the many informative and enlightening posts on the List from those with so much hiking/backpacking experience, and even found the disputes curious. ?I found others whose feet grew an extra shoe size as did my feet after long distance hiking. ?Snack and food ideas have been wonderful. ?I missed the posts when the List was temporarily not working for me.? ? ?I have connected with several hikers through the List looking for rides in Northern California and have given them transport. ?I even found the the Weed Greyhound Bus Station. ?We'd share stories and experiences, and enjoy the common interest of hiking the PCT. ?I get so uplifted and owe it to the List contributors.? ? ?The idea that Sunshine suggested about sharing hiking/backing stories on the List I feel is a great path. ?It could create interest and fun reading to experienced hikers as-well-as new comers. ?We just need people to contribute their stories like I just did. ?I know that I could and will share other stories. ?It's a connection.Happy trails,Lady Pegasus
    On Wednesday, December 26, 2018, 6:44:25 PM PST, Sabrina Harrison <troopharrison at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I was just on a road trip telling my daughter about trail angels and towns. It dawned on me how much fun I?ve had - staying with Scout and Frodo - getting sold and shook down at Super Dave?s - Moms apple pie and Carmen in Julian - hitching into Idyllwild - on and on! 

Tell us a story ??

GoGo


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From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Sun Dec 30 18:15:12 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:15:12 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] (pct-l) Next Long Trail?....and Other Spectacular Hikes
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  [pct-l] Next Long Trail?

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/Sat Dec 1 15:33:16 CST 2018/

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This makes me want to head south.

https://www.afar.com/magazine/chile-opens-1700-mile-hiking-trail-connecting-17-national-parks

...........................................................

Yes Brick,
Chile's new 1,700 mile "Route of Parks Trail" through 17 national parks
from Puerto Monttin in the North to Cape Horn in the South, which was made
possible by the donation of millions of acres of land by conservationist
Douglas Tomkins and his wife will be, without question, one of the most
spectacular "Long Trails in the world and as a result, hopefully, reduce
the traffic on our overcrowded, beloved PCT.
Having recently spend some time in New Zealand I would like to point out
that New Zealand has spectacular mountains worth hiking.
And, there is also our own Hawaii with some spectacular and challenging
hiking opportunities.
I know some of you will say "what is so challenging about hiking on a
sandy beach in the shade of Palm Trees?
I say there is more to Hawaii than just sandy beaches and Palm Trees.
Kaua'i, the little Island is home to Waimea Canyon, the Grand Canyon
of the Pacific.
Hawaii, the big Island is home to Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa, the tallest
mountains in the world.
I can hear it already..."does that fool not know that Mt. Everest is the
tallest mountain in the world"????
NOT SO!!!...Mt. Everest is the highest above sea level, but rises only
11,929 feet from its 17,100 foot or base to a total elevation of 29,029
feet above sea level.
Mouna Kea rises 33,464 feet from its foot or base, 19,668 feet below sea
level, to 13,796 feet above sea level.
Mouna Loa rises 32,768 feet from its foot or base, 19,668 feet below sea
level, to 13,100 feet above sea level.
So you see Mt. Everest's summit is higher above sea level only because
its foot or base, where the mountain actually starts, is already 17,100
feet above sea level While Mouna Kea's & Mouna Loa's foot or base, where
they start is 19,668 feet below sea level.
So, in realty Mauna Kea and Mouna Loa are much taller than Mt. Everest
but Mt. Everest's summit is higher above sea level only because of the
difference in height of their foot or base where the mountain begins it's
rise.
I am sure you guys understand that why, when I realized the above, I just
had to climb those mountains.
So, if you guys should want the satisfaction of having climbed the tallest
mountains in the world, head for Hawaii.

BTW...another good thing about hiking Hawaii,...after you come down from
the mountains you can relax in the shade of a Palm Tree on a sandy beach,
slurping Margarita's and watching bikini clad surfer girls strolling along
the beach...much more pleasant than rolling around in the dirt drinking
river water.

WORD OF WARNING!...watching bikini clad surfer girls can be very stressful,
especially to older 78 year old guys like me...and Switchback.
  
JMT Reinhold
Your stressed out trail companion


  




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From reinholdmetzger at cox.net  Sun Dec 30 18:26:52 2018
From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:26:52 -0800
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: (pct-l) Next Long Trail?....and Other Spectacular Hikes
In-Reply-To: <62d116d0-1098-a39b-5bb1-ec040c5b8425@cox.net>
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Sorry about the scramble in the prior
................................................................
[pct-l] Next Long Trail? *Brick Robbins*brick at 
brickrobbins.com<mailto:pct-l%40backcountry.net?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bpct-l%5D%20Next%20Long%20Trail%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCALV1NzmFLGV-d1LML1QDYKVyJHj7F8pJYut%3D3N7Wr%2B4fqTmLJg%40mail.gmail.com%3E>
/Sat Dec 1 15:33:16 CST 2018/
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This makes me want to head south.

https://www.afar.com/magazine/chile-opens-1700-mile-hiking-trail-connecting-17-national-parks

...........................................................

Yes Brick,
Chile's new 1,700 mile "Route of Parks Trail" through 17 national parks
from Puerto Monttin in the North to Cape Horn in the South, which was made
possible by the donation of millions of acres of land by conservationist
Douglas Tomkins and his wife will be, without question, one of the most
spectacular "Long Trails in the world and as a result, hopefully, reduce
the traffic on our overcrowded, beloved PCT.
Having recently spend some time in New Zealand I would like to point out
that New Zealand has spectacular mountains worth hiking.
And, there is also our own Hawaii with some spectacular and challenging
hiking opportunities.
I know some of you will say "what is so challenging about hiking on a
sandy beach in the shade of Palm Trees?
I say there is more to Hawaii than just sandy beaches and Palm Trees.
Kaua'i, the little Island is home to Waimea Canyon, the Grand Canyon
of the Pacific.
Hawaii, the big Island is home to Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa, the tallest
mountains in the world.
I can hear it already..."does that fool not know that Mt. Everest is the
tallest mountain in the world"????
NOT SO!!!...Mt. Everest is the highest above sea level, but rises only
11,929 feet from its 17,100 foot or base to a total elevation of 29,029
feet above sea level.
Mouna Kea rises 33,464 feet from its foot or base, 19,668 feet below sea
level, to 13,796 feet above sea level.
Mouna Loa rises 32,768 feet from its foot or base, 19,668 feet below sea
level, to 13,100 feet above sea level.
So you see Mt. Everest's summit is higher above sea level only because
its foot or base, where the mountain actually starts, is already 17,100
feet above sea level While Mouna Kea's & Mouna Loa's foot or base, where
they start is 19,668 feet below sea level.
So, in realty Mauna Kea and Mouna Loa are much taller than Mt. Everest
but Mt. Everest's summit is higher above sea level only because of the
difference in height of their foot or base where the mountain begins it's
rise.
I am sure you guys understand that why, when I realized the above, I just
had to climb those mountains.
So, if you guys should want the satisfaction of having climbed the tallest
mountains in the world, head for Hawaii.

BTW...another good thing about hiking Hawaii,...after you come down from
the mountains you can relax in the shade of a Palm Tree on a sandy beach,
slurping Margarita's and watching bikini clad surfer girls strolling along
the beach...much more pleasant than rolling around in the dirt drinking
river water.

WORD OF WARNING!...watching bikini clad surfer girls can be very stressful,
especially to older 78 year old guys like me...and Switchback.
  
JMT Reinhold
Your stressed out trail companion


  




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From pctl at oakapple.net  Sun Dec 30 19:20:54 2018
From: pctl at oakapple.net (David Hough reading PCT-L)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:20:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [pct-l] multi-day backpacking and digestive upset
Message-ID: <201812310120.wBV1Ks3L026013@server-f.oakapple.net>


Have you been in the situation, repeated over several trips, but not every
time, that around the third or fourth day you get an evil digestive upset
that imodium won't touch?

The particular characteristics of interest are that 
 * it only happens while backpacking after a few days 
   (hence food or water or physical activity are key)
 * it only happens to you, not to others in your group with the same diet
and physical activity
 * it stops as soon as you stop backpacking.

If your experience fits these parameters, you might be able to help others.
Take a look at 

 http://pcnst.oakapple.net/ibs.txt

which is currently a discussion between two sufferers.

If you have positive experiences to share about causes,
preventions, and treatments, please let me know and I will add your
data to the discussion there.

David Hough