[pct-l] SNOW

Fri Mar 3 22:38:21 CST 2017

Hi, Bethany!

Creek crossing shoes need to protect the feet and skin and stay on the foot during nasty crossings. The sole needs to be durable, the upper needs to protect the sides of the foot, and the closure has to be reliable (cord-lock or tie). That's about it. 

This design is what I'm using at the moment and best demonstrates the design I'm talking about:
http://www.cabelas.com/product/BODY-GLOVE-MN-DYNAMO-FORCE/1953364.uts?productVariantId=4022588&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=04037559&rid=20&gclid=CLaympiCvNICFYS1wAod2SwPoQ&gclsrc=aw.ds 

Self-arrest poles do double duty for the snow hiker,
1. Prevent slip-and-falls by helping maintain your balance (as any pole would do), and
2. Allow you to immediately deploy the self-arrest pick into the snow to stop any sudden tumbles (if you know how). 

We love the Whippet because it's always ready, in your hand, all the time and it doesn't have a hinged pick. You don't have to know a ton about risk recognition to know when to use it. Great for the summer hiker out on the snow.

Much of the snow safety stuff we publish to help hikers can be found here
https://www.facebook.com/mountaineducation/ 

Did that answer your questions?

Ned Tibbits, Director
Mountain Education, Inc.
ned at mountaineducation.org 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bethany Melvin [mailto:bmelvin88 at live.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:05 PM
To: ned at mountaineducation.org
Cc: Byron Nevins <byron.nevins at gmail.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] SNOW

Hey Ned, I'm considering taking your course. I reviewed the information and have a few questions. 

I'd like to know what you consider to be creek crossing shoes for starters. Since we'll be wearing boots, I'm guessing maybe a pair of sandals...a sneaker would cover and protect the foot well, but will also add bulk and weight to an already bulky and heavy pack. Thoughts? 

I've also done some winter mountaineering in the past and always used an ice axe so I'm curious why you require the BD whippet and specifically state "no ice axes." 

Lastly, is your FB page "Mountain Education, Inc." or something else?

I appreciate the feedback!

-Bethany

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> On Mar 2, 2017, at 8:12 PM, <ned at mountaineducation.org> <ned at mountaineducation.org> wrote:
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> I know that a lot of the members of the pct-l don’t, but we’ve been posting a lot of very snow-hiking relevant info there to help hikers this summer!
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> Ned Tibbits, Director
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> <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org> ned at mountaineducation.org 
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> From: Byron Nevins [mailto:byron.nevins at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 4:37 PM
> To: Ned Tibbits <ned at mountaineducation.org>
> Subject: Re: SNOW
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> No -- I never go onto FB anymore...
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> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:18 PM, <ned at mountaineducation.org <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org> > wrote:
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> As long as the snowpack is consolidated, of course! I’ve been going over it in May for 35 years and haven’t yet had any big hazards, but you do need to know what you’re doing regarding snow skills and making wise decisions!
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> Have you been following all our FB posts, Byron?
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> Ned Tibbits, Director
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> <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org> ned at mountaineducation.org 
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> From: Byron Nevins [mailto:byron.nevins at gmail.com <mailto:byron.nevins at gmail.com> ] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 4:14 PM
> To: Ned Tibbits <ned at mountaineducation.org <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org> >
> Subject: Re: SNOW
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> No way -- are you seriously saying that you can climb over Forester Pass, this year, in MAY?!?
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> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:44 PM, <ned at mountaineducation.org <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org> > wrote:
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> Hi, Byron!
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> Best thing you could do for your JMT and PCT thru hikes would be to take one of our SAC-7 snow skills courses! Details here…  http://mountaineducation.org/snow-advanced-course-sierra-pct-nobo-full-course-description/ 
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> I wish I could have taken one of these trips the spring before my thru hike! Take a look at the dates and let me know what you want to do!
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> Ned Tibbits, Director
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> Mountain Education, Inc.
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> ned at mountaineducation.org <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org>  
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> From: Byron Nevins [mailto:byron.nevins at gmail.com <mailto:byron.nevins at gmail.com> ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:08 PM
> To: Ned Tibbits <ned at mountaineducation.org <mailto:ned at mountaineducation.org> >
> Subject: SNOW
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> Hi Ned,
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> I'm committed!  PCT in 2018, JMT in 2017
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> When are this year's courses?
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