From karen.kellerford at gmail.com Fri Jul 7 09:26:15 2017 From: karen.kellerford at gmail.com (Karen Keller) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:26:15 -0400 Subject: [pct-l] Sierra City/Donner Pass hitch Message-ID: How difficult is it to get a ride from Sierra City to Donner pass? I'm planning a section hike and trying to figure out how I'll get back to my car if I park at the Donner Pass trailhead. Sent from my iPhone From HStroh at sjmslaw.com Fri Jul 7 10:36:05 2017 From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 15:36:05 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Sierra City/Donner Pass hitch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0abdcbb4035d4d26871cbdcc1205b994@MALAWI.SJLM.local> Karen-- Sierra City is small, but in season there is a fair amount of activity. The City is very hiker friendly. Example: I came off the trail and intended to walk the mile or so to town; I got less than 100 yards before I was offered a ride by a local. First thing he asked: "where do you want to go, the church, post-office or store?" I arrived mid-day and expected to overnight at the church side yard (they allow free camping, and the public bathroom next store has a free cold water shower). While enjoying a beer and a 1 pound burger at the general store I chatted up people and within an hour had a ride to Truckee where my car was parked. If you are going to hit the road and thumb it, early morning has much less traffic than later in the day. You will most likely need at least two hitches to get back to Donner. Hitch down to Truckee, which has a lot of activity and is outdoor oriented as well so rides to the trailhead should present themselves. Also, the trailhead is less than 10 miles from the town, so you could take a cab if you don't feel like waiting. Lots of good tourist food in Truckee! You can also leave a car in Truckee for a week or so. They have several parking lots by the train station that are specifically for long-term parking. (I think the signs said 1 week limit; I was going for 10 days so alerted the police. They politely told me they could care less, but thanks for letting them know.) You could cab to the trail head at the start of your hike and when the hitch drops you in Truckee you are done. If it helps, there is bus service to Reno from Truckee. Herb -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Karen Keller Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 7:26 AM To: PCT-L Subject: [pct-l] Sierra City/Donner Pass hitch How difficult is it to get a ride from Sierra City to Donner pass? I'm planning a section hike and trying to figure out how I'll get back to my car if I park at the Donner Pass trailhead. Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From jeff.harg at gmail.com Fri Jul 7 11:41:12 2017 From: jeff.harg at gmail.com (Jeff Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 09:41:12 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 Message-ID: <014601d2f73f$d8703bc0$8950b340$@gmail.com> My wife and I are getting back on the trail for two months at Hwy 3 near Etna. We're taking the Greyhound to Weed Friday afternoon, 7/14, arriving about 2:15 and wondering if there are any trail angels in the area that would be willing to get us to the trailhead? Very happy to cover expenses. Thanks Slow and Steady (Jeff and Meg - Oakland) From JimLBanks at verizon.net Fri Jul 7 12:19:06 2017 From: JimLBanks at verizon.net (Jim Banks) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:19:06 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 In-Reply-To: <014601d2f73f$d8703bc0$8950b340$@gmail.com> References: <014601d2f73f$d8703bc0$8950b340$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000101d2f745$251171b0$6f345510$@verizon.net> There is a trail angel that lives near Weed that posts on this list occasionally offering rides to the trailheads in that area. I think the email name is something like JoMike. Maybe they will see your post. I have their email address somewhere, if I find it I will send it to you. I-Beam -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Hargreaves Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 9:41 AM To: Pct-L at backcountry.net Subject: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 My wife and I are getting back on the trail for two months at Hwy 3 near Etna. We're taking the Greyhound to Weed Friday afternoon, 7/14, arriving about 2:15 and wondering if there are any trail angels in the area that would be willing to get us to the trailhead? Very happy to cover expenses. Thanks Slow and Steady (Jeff and Meg - Oakland) _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From jeff.harg at gmail.com Fri Jul 7 12:58:33 2017 From: jeff.harg at gmail.com (Jeff Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:58:33 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 In-Reply-To: <000101d2f745$251171b0$6f345510$@verizon.net> References: <014601d2f73f$d8703bc0$8950b340$@gmail.com> <000101d2f745$251171b0$6f345510$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <019e01d2f74a$a6848930$f38d9b90$@gmail.com> Thanks I-Beam. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Banks [mailto:JimLBanks at verizon.net] Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 10:19 AM To: 'Jeff Hargreaves' ; Pct-L at backcountry.net Subject: RE: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 There is a trail angel that lives near Weed that posts on this list occasionally offering rides to the trailheads in that area. I think the email name is something like JoMike. Maybe they will see your post. I have their email address somewhere, if I find it I will send it to you. I-Beam -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Hargreaves Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 9:41 AM To: Pct-L at backcountry.net Subject: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 My wife and I are getting back on the trail for two months at Hwy 3 near Etna. We're taking the Greyhound to Weed Friday afternoon, 7/14, arriving about 2:15 and wondering if there are any trail angels in the area that would be willing to get us to the trailhead? Very happy to cover expenses. Thanks Slow and Steady (Jeff and Meg - Oakland) _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com Fri Jul 7 14:02:46 2017 From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com (marmot marmot) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 19:02:46 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 In-Reply-To: <014601d2f73f$d8703bc0$8950b340$@gmail.com> References: <014601d2f73f$d8703bc0$8950b340$@gmail.com> Message-ID: There is also the local bus that I am sure stops at Weed. It's the Scot Valley(?) transit bus. It goes to Etna. If you are going to the hostel in Etna they used to organize rides to the trail head. Lots of locals also will give you rides to trail head nice people in that town. Marmot Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Hargreaves wrote: > > My wife and I are getting back on the trail for two months at Hwy 3 near > Etna. > > We're taking the Greyhound to Weed Friday afternoon, 7/14, arriving about > 2:15 and wondering if there are any trail angels in the area that would be > willing to get us to the trailhead? > > Very happy to cover expenses. > > Thanks > > Slow and Steady > > (Jeff and Meg - Oakland) > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From laurie_h1234 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 7 17:32:15 2017 From: laurie_h1234 at yahoo.com (Laurie Hallum) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 22:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] Weed To PCT at Hwy 3 In-Reply-To: References: <014601d2f73f$d8703bc0$8950b340$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1756669167.624935.1499466735717@mail.yahoo.com> ? ? ?I live in Redding, about 70 miles from Weed. ?Hiking partner and I enjoy a nice drive to Etna just for the heck of it. ?It's very pretty and he likes to eat at the Etna Brewery which is once again open. ?Bob's Ranch House is also good. ?I hear there's a fire in the Marbles (north of Etna summit) right now, but not expected to be huge. ?You may want to keep an eye on it.? ? ?I would be available on July 14, to transport you and your wife to Etna or to Etna Summit unless you get another offer. ?Happy trails,Lady Pegasus PS ?My computer is in the shop so I have to use a public one. ?If you reply, I may not see it for a couple of days. ?It is suppose to be ready Tuesday. On Friday, July 7, 2017 12:03 PM, marmot marmot wrote: There is also the local bus that I am sure stops at Weed.? It's the Scot Valley(?) transit bus.? It goes to Etna. If you are going to the hostel in Etna they used to organize rides to the trail head. Lots of locals also will give you rides to trail head nice people in that town. Marmot Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Hargreaves wrote: > > My wife and I are getting back on the trail for two months at Hwy 3 near > Etna. > > We're taking the Greyhound to Weed Friday afternoon, 7/14, arriving about > 2:15 and wondering if there are any trail angels in the area that would be > willing to get us to the trailhead? > > Very happy to cover expenses. > > Thanks > > Slow and Steady > > (Jeff and Meg - Oakland) > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From HStroh at sjmslaw.com Mon Jul 10 19:59:12 2017 From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:59:12 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Rescuers Robbed at Gunpoint Message-ID: <72a68a1795a048bcbe1f2bed2ebcc376@MALAWI.SJLM.local> Rescuers on a mission to assist an injured hiker on the PCT were robbed at gunpoint: http://www.bakersfield.com/news/breaking/search-and-rescue-crew-robbed-at-gunpoint-during-rescue-along/article_fba00efe-3c20-534d-8581-6f3c9223ca5e.html Proof once again that the most dangerous animals on the trail are the two-legged type. Herb From lucecruz13 at gmail.com Mon Jul 10 23:43:36 2017 From: lucecruz13 at gmail.com (Luce Cruz) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 21:43:36 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Rescuers Robbed at Gunpoint In-Reply-To: <72a68a1795a048bcbe1f2bed2ebcc376@MALAWI.SJLM.local> References: <72a68a1795a048bcbe1f2bed2ebcc376@MALAWI.SJLM.local> Message-ID: (wonders when the "should I carry a gun on the trail" questions start again) The obvious answer is "no". -- Luce Cruz From pctl at marcusschwartz.com Tue Jul 11 01:02:44 2017 From: pctl at marcusschwartz.com (Town Food) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 23:02:44 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Rescuers Robbed at Gunpoint In-Reply-To: References: <72a68a1795a048bcbe1f2bed2ebcc376@MALAWI.SJLM.local> Message-ID: IMO there are some important points here: 1. This didn't happen on the PCT. It happened in an unnamed area somewhere near the PCT. 2. The area between Highway 58 and Kelso Valley Road is little-used scrubby desert. 3. The robbers told the victims "to immediately leave the area". So, I'm guessing they happened to go into an area used for something illegal (e.g. unlicensed pot farm, meth lab, etc.), while hiking an area nobody normally hikes. The operators hoped to chase them away from their illegal operation. It reminds me a bit of a story a few years ago about my favorite local backpacking park, Henry Coe SP. A bushwhacking hiker happened upon a pot farm and was shot at. (Kind of similar terrain to that PCT section, too, coincidentally). Incidentally, does anybody know what injured the hiker they were going in to rescue? Something heat-related probably? Was it a thru-hiker? -=Town Food On 07/10/2017 09:43 PM, Luce Cruz wrote: > (wonders when the "should I carry a gun on the trail" questions start again) > > The obvious answer is "no". > From troopharrison at gmail.com Tue Jul 11 10:06:03 2017 From: troopharrison at gmail.com (Sabrina Harrison) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:06:03 -0500 Subject: [pct-l] Rescuers Robbed at Gunpoint In-Reply-To: References: <72a68a1795a048bcbe1f2bed2ebcc376@MALAWI.SJLM.local> Message-ID: The guy posted on the class of 2017 page before all the news article started appearing. He was pretty shaken up about it and a couple of trolls got ahold of him criticizing him for the situation. According to him, they miscalculated and ran out of water. Yes I think he is attempting a through hike. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2017, at 1:02 AM, Town Food wrote: > > IMO there are some important points here: > > 1. This didn't happen on the PCT. It happened in an unnamed area somewhere near the PCT. > 2. The area between Highway 58 and Kelso Valley Road is little-used scrubby desert. > 3. The robbers told the victims "to immediately leave the area". > > So, I'm guessing they happened to go into an area used for something illegal (e.g. unlicensed pot farm, meth lab, etc.), while hiking an area nobody normally hikes. The operators hoped to chase them away from their illegal operation. > > It reminds me a bit of a story a few years ago about my favorite local backpacking park, Henry Coe SP. A bushwhacking hiker happened upon a pot farm and was shot at. (Kind of similar terrain to that PCT section, too, coincidentally). > > Incidentally, does anybody know what injured the hiker they were going in to rescue? Something heat-related probably? Was it a thru-hiker? > > -=Town Food > >> On 07/10/2017 09:43 PM, Luce Cruz wrote: >> (wonders when the "should I carry a gun on the trail" questions start again) >> >> The obvious answer is "no". >> > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From David_Harris at hmc.edu Fri Jul 14 04:15:17 2017 From: David_Harris at hmc.edu (David Money Harris) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 02:15:17 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Washington Conditions Message-ID: I?m departing for a Washington state section hike, leaving Bridge of the Gods on Saturday 7/15 and reaching Manning Park in mid-August. Can anyone share personal knowledge of Washington conditions for this time of this year? How bad will the mosquitoes be? Will there be any significant snow issues? (I?m not planning to carry microspikes, and just expect a short stretch near Goat Rocks and not much else.) Am I too early for the huckleberries? Thank you, David Money Harris From matt.leonard.22 at gmail.com Fri Jul 14 09:02:14 2017 From: matt.leonard.22 at gmail.com (Matt Leonard) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 07:02:14 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Washington Conditions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <637ed1bc-e381-b0e8-1a5c-72057458556c@gmail.com> I was out on the section between Pyramid Peak and Green Pass (~2347-2353) on July 1st. Only a 6 mile stretch of the trail in Washington that I've seen first hand, but there wasn't any snow left on the trail or the forest roads getting up to it, maybe a slushy patch here and there in shady spots. That's been two weeks ago, so I imagine even that slush is gone now. I haven't heard of any significant snow remaining from about Government Meadows up to Snoqualmie Pass, but I haven't seen that entire stretch myself. - Matt On 7/14/2017 2:15 AM, David Money Harris wrote: > I?m departing for a Washington state section hike, leaving Bridge of the Gods on Saturday 7/15 and reaching Manning Park in mid-August. > > Can anyone share personal knowledge of Washington conditions for this time of this year? How bad will the mosquitoes be? Will there be any significant snow issues? (I?m not planning to carry microspikes, and just expect a short stretch near Goat Rocks and not much else.) Am I too early for the huckleberries? > > Thank you, > > David Money Harris > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From thomas at stachl.me Sun Jul 16 01:16:57 2017 From: thomas at stachl.me (Thomas Stachl) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 06:16:57 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Washington Conditions In-Reply-To: <637ed1bc-e381-b0e8-1a5c-72057458556c@gmail.com> References: <637ed1bc-e381-b0e8-1a5c-72057458556c@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just hiked from the border to Rainy Pass. Some snow patches are left but no ice axe or crampons needed. Mosquitoes have been pretty bad because of high humidity due to snow melt. Parts of the trail are overgrown and others have blow downs. You should be fine though unless you forgot the bug spray like I did. On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:18 AM Matt Leonard wrote: > I was out on the section between Pyramid Peak and Green Pass > (~2347-2353) on July 1st. Only a 6 mile stretch of the trail in > Washington that I've seen first hand, but there wasn't any snow left on > the trail or the forest roads getting up to it, maybe a slushy patch > here and there in shady spots. That's been two weeks ago, so I imagine > even that slush is gone now. > > I haven't heard of any significant snow remaining from about Government > Meadows up to Snoqualmie Pass, but I haven't seen that entire stretch > myself. > > - Matt > > On 7/14/2017 2:15 AM, David Money Harris wrote: > > I?m departing for a Washington state section hike, leaving Bridge of the > Gods on Saturday 7/15 and reaching Manning Park in mid-August. > > > > Can anyone share personal knowledge of Washington conditions for this > time of this year? How bad will the mosquitoes be? Will there be any > significant snow issues? (I?m not planning to carry microspikes, and just > expect a short stretch near Goat Rocks and not much else.) Am I too early > for the huckleberries? > > > > Thank you, > > > > David Money Harris > > _______________________________________________ > > Pct-L mailing list > > Pct-L at backcountry.net > > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > > > List Archives: > > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From thomas at stachl.me Wed Jul 19 14:25:59 2017 From: thomas at stachl.me (Thomas Stachl) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 19:25:59 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Conditions of Section K Message-ID: Hi there, We're about to leave Stehekin and hike to Stevens Pass. Does anyone have an update on trail conditions for section K? Thanks, Thomas From ambery-80243 at mypacks.net Thu Jul 20 14:40:47 2017 From: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net (ambery-80243 at mypacks.net) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:40:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [pct-l] Snow conditions on PCT - Mt Hood Message-ID: <6017568.12710.1500579648024@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Just as a final update to all the condition reports earlier.... Summer finally arrived at Mt Hood and except for some shade snow in a couple spots, things are looking good on the PCT crossing the west side of the mountain. The Sandy River is running high and one should use caution there, but other than that and a bit of downed trees below Paradise Park, things look good. Have seen the first of the thru-hikers that skipped the Sierra arriving recently. -----Original Message----- >From: Jerry's gmail >Sent: Jun 29, 2017 3:32 PM >To: Jim Banks >Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net >Subject: Re: [pct-l] FW: Snow conditions on PCT > >Just a ditto to the Mt Hood PCT conditions. I was out on a SAR mission yesterday 6/28 for 3 SOBO near the Zigzag crossing, about 3 miles NW of Timberline Lodge. They were unable to cross the steep snow covered cross slopes and had lost the buried trail. Their skill levels/experience levels were very low; others have made it through. 10 more days will make a major difference. >Jerry >PNWSAR > >> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Jim Banks wrote: >> >> Forwarding, with permission, a post about snow conditions around Mt. Hood and Timberline Lodge. >> >> >> >> I-Beam >> >> >> >> From: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net [mailto:ambery-80243 at mypacks.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:20 PM >> To: Jim Banks >> Subject: Re: Snow conditions on PCT >> >> >> >> I just went out to Timberline Lodge on Monday. You can see the PCT behind the lodge for about 300 yards....... :) >> I went west for about a mile, and was on five feet of snow for most of it. To the east of the lodge, all the ridges are bare, but there is snow in the gullies. I don't know about farther south, but conditions between Timothy Lake and the lodge are fine. Lolo Pass to the gorge is also snow free now. It's just the west side of Mt Hood that will be another two or three weeks before it's comfortable for most hikers. We had considerable melting last week due to the heat wave we had, so crossings of the Muddy Fork and the Sandy River are pretty high as well. >> >> Amber >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Banks >> Sent: Jun 27, 2017 4:07 PM >> To: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net >> Subject: Snow conditions on PCT >> >> >> >> >> Amber, you posted an email to the PCT list serve on June 1 warning that there was still lots of snow around Timberline Lodge. Could you give us an update on the snow conditions around there? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> I-Beam >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pct-L mailing list >> Pct-L at backcountry.net >> To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l >> >> List Archives: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ >> All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. >> Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. >_______________________________________________ >Pct-L mailing list >Pct-L at backcountry.net >To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > >List Archives: >http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ >All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. >Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From JimLBanks at verizon.net Thu Jul 20 15:06:46 2017 From: JimLBanks at verizon.net (Jim Banks) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:06:46 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Snow conditions on PCT - Mt Hood In-Reply-To: <6017568.12710.1500579648024@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6017568.12710.1500579648024@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000c01d30193$b7cad520$27607f60$@verizon.net> Thanks for the update. This kind of on the ground trail report is very much appreciated. I-Beam -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of ambery-80243 at mypacks.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:41 PM To: pct-l Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snow conditions on PCT - Mt Hood Just as a final update to all the condition reports earlier.... Summer finally arrived at Mt Hood and except for some shade snow in a couple spots, things are looking good on the PCT crossing the west side of the mountain. The Sandy River is running high and one should use caution there, but other than that and a bit of downed trees below Paradise Park, things look good. Have seen the first of the thru-hikers that skipped the Sierra arriving recently. -----Original Message----- >From: Jerry's gmail >Sent: Jun 29, 2017 3:32 PM >To: Jim Banks >Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net >Subject: Re: [pct-l] FW: Snow conditions on PCT > >Just a ditto to the Mt Hood PCT conditions. I was out on a SAR mission yesterday 6/28 for 3 SOBO near the Zigzag crossing, about 3 miles NW of Timberline Lodge. They were unable to cross the steep snow covered cross slopes and had lost the buried trail. Their skill levels/experience levels were very low; others have made it through. 10 more days will make a major difference. >Jerry >PNWSAR > >> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Jim Banks wrote: >> >> Forwarding, with permission, a post about snow conditions around Mt. Hood and Timberline Lodge. >> >> >> >> I-Beam >> >> >> >> From: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net [mailto:ambery-80243 at mypacks.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:20 PM >> To: Jim Banks >> Subject: Re: Snow conditions on PCT >> >> >> >> I just went out to Timberline Lodge on Monday. You can see the PCT >> behind the lodge for about 300 yards....... :) I went west for about a mile, and was on five feet of snow for most of it. To the east of the lodge, all the ridges are bare, but there is snow in the gullies. I don't know about farther south, but conditions between Timothy Lake and the lodge are fine. Lolo Pass to the gorge is also snow free now. It's just the west side of Mt Hood that will be another two or three weeks before it's comfortable for most hikers. We had considerable melting last week due to the heat wave we had, so crossings of the Muddy Fork and the Sandy River are pretty high as well. >> >> Amber >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Banks >> Sent: Jun 27, 2017 4:07 PM >> To: ambery-80243 at mypacks.net >> Subject: Snow conditions on PCT >> >> >> >> >> Amber, you posted an email to the PCT list serve on June 1 warning that there was still lots of snow around Timberline Lodge. Could you give us an update on the snow conditions around there? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> I-Beam >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pct-L mailing list >> Pct-L at backcountry.net >> To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l >> >> List Archives: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ >> All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. >> Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. >_______________________________________________ >Pct-L mailing list >Pct-L at backcountry.net >To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > >List Archives: >http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ >All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. >Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From jalan04 at gmail.com Sun Jul 23 16:54:45 2017 From: jalan04 at gmail.com (Will M) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 14:54:45 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Bus to Stevens Pass Message-ID: Hi, I was hoping to take the bus to Steven Pass in a few weeks but I notice that there is no checked luggage allowed and limitations on carry-ons. Has anyone taken this bus with a back pack? I'm curious to know if I might have to purchase a separate duffle bag to split up my stuff into more manageable carry-on luggage. Thanks, Will From joewwaters at earthlink.net Sun Jul 23 19:13:34 2017 From: joewwaters at earthlink.net (Joe Waters) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 17:13:34 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Bus to Stevens Pass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2460DDD9-7076-4C85-9ADE-69CCB97EAADA@earthlink.net> Will, I?ve taken the Stevens Pass bus with a backpack several times - last in 2015 - and never had a problem. Drivers have always (reasonably) required that pack be put in storage area beneath bus. I?ve never had any damage done to pack - nor done anything special other than ask driver to be careful. The drivers, and company, seem to be very hiker friendly - at least based on my experience. Stevens Pass is a great place to start, regardless of whether you are going north or south - happy hiking! - Blue Feather > On Jul 23, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Will M wrote: > > Hi, > > I was hoping to take the bus to Steven Pass in a few weeks but I notice > that there is no checked luggage allowed and limitations on carry-ons. Has > anyone taken this bus with a back pack? I'm curious to know if I might > have to purchase a separate duffle bag to split up my stuff into more > manageable carry-on luggage. > > Thanks, > > Will > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From belcherjd at juno.com Mon Jul 24 09:11:16 2017 From: belcherjd at juno.com (belcherjd at juno.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:11:16 GMT Subject: [pct-l] Bus to Stevens Pass Message-ID: <20170724.071116.14271.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> For those that are wondering what bus is being discussed.https://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrakIt is the Amtrak Thruways bus that stops right at the top of Stevens Pass if they have a passenger to drop off or a passenger that has a ticket to pick up. There is no station there just the ski resort/PCT parking lot.'til later Jon ____________________________________________________________ Warning: Don't Use Probiotics Before You See This Gundry MD http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5976004832416477f42st02duc From jtpapini at icloud.com Mon Jul 24 14:22:15 2017 From: jtpapini at icloud.com (John Papini) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:22:15 +0400 Subject: [pct-l] Calling all Professionals Message-ID: <250428A8-231E-45DF-A331-BB5FCF6A3685@icloud.com> Hello! I had the good fortune of thru hiking the PCT last year, unfortunately a day hasn't gone by since that I haven't thought about doing it again. I'm an attorney and struggling with trying to organize my life in such a way that I can pursue a career and still undertake another thru hike (or many) without having to wait many years until I retire. Any professionals out there who can message me directly with advice about juggling a career with one's love of long distance hiking? Thanks in advance! John (aka Woodstock) Sent from my iPhone - please excuse any typographical errors! From matt.leonard.22 at gmail.com Mon Jul 24 14:50:23 2017 From: matt.leonard.22 at gmail.com (Matt Leonard) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:50:23 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Calling all Professionals In-Reply-To: <250428A8-231E-45DF-A331-BB5FCF6A3685@icloud.com> References: <250428A8-231E-45DF-A331-BB5FCF6A3685@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1aa4d80f-63b9-4e58-535a-841e207d4bbc@gmail.com> This is actually a conversation I am interested in as well. I just happen to be in the tech sector and not legal. On 7/24/2017 12:22 PM, John Papini wrote: > Hello! I had the good fortune of thru hiking the PCT last year, unfortunately a day hasn't gone by since that I haven't thought about doing it again. > > I'm an attorney and struggling with trying to organize my life in such a way that I can pursue a career and still undertake another thru hike (or many) without having to wait many years until I retire. > > Any professionals out there who can message me directly with advice about juggling a career with one's love of long distance hiking? > > Thanks in advance! > > John (aka Woodstock) > > Sent from my iPhone - please excuse any typographical errors! > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From rick at rickhubbard.org Mon Jul 24 22:39:39 2017 From: rick at rickhubbard.org (Rick Hubbard) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:39:39 -0500 Subject: [pct-l] Calling all Professionals In-Reply-To: <250428A8-231E-45DF-A331-BB5FCF6A3685@icloud.com> References: <250428A8-231E-45DF-A331-BB5FCF6A3685@icloud.com> Message-ID: Hi Woodstock, I?m a retired attorney, also with an MBA, who was well set to head to a major law firm in the city and chase the ?big bucks.? But, like you, quality of life and balance between work and play was important to me. I well understood that if I headed for a big law firm in the city I would have to sacrifice my quality of life and balance, so I opted to return to my home state of Vermont and opened my own law practice. I achieved the quality and balance, but at the expense of the ?big bucks.? The legal work I did was probably less exciting than what I would have experienced, had I specialized with a big city law firm. The upside is that I?m now 75, still actively backpacking, hiking, bicycling and cross country skiing, and have had great experiences with all of those sports along the way. I?m okay financially in retirement, but at a lower level than I might have expected with a big city law firm. Another option to consider is to work as an ?in house? attorney for a non-profit whose mission you support. That might provide a more reasonable middle ground of interesting work, money and quality of life. Hope this helps. Rick a/k/a "Newsman" Rick Hubbard 12 Woodbine Street South Burlington, VT 05403 Email: rick at rickhubbard.org Web: www.rickhubbard.org Cell: 802-999-3905 We citizens largely elect good people to represent us in Washington, who then are incentivized to often act in ways that place their own interests, those of their wealthy and influential backers, and those of their political party above the broad interests of the American people. > On Jul 24, 2017, at 2:22 PM, John Papini wrote: > > Hello! I had the good fortune of thru hiking the PCT last year, unfortunately a day hasn't gone by since that I haven't thought about doing it again. > > I'm an attorney and struggling with trying to organize my life in such a way that I can pursue a career and still undertake another thru hike (or many) without having to wait many years until I retire. > > Any professionals out there who can message me directly with advice about juggling a career with one's love of long distance hiking? > > Thanks in advance! > > John (aka Woodstock) > > Sent from my iPhone - please excuse any typographical errors! > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From bwiedema at aum.edu Mon Jul 24 23:39:22 2017 From: bwiedema at aum.edu (Barbara Wiedemann) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 04:39:22 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] White Pass to Cascade Locks Message-ID: <94695F56-6B98-41B7-AF93-555316D3CABF@aum.edu> I will be hiking with a New Zealand friend from Cascade Locks to White Pass ( hwy 12). She will continue but I (and my dog Angel) will need to return to Cascade Locks for my car. Any suggestions on how I can get back? Barbara, Class of 2015 Sent from my iPad@ From tnx4asking at gmail.com Tue Jul 25 15:33:16 2017 From: tnx4asking at gmail.com (John Casterline) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:33:16 -0400 Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO Message-ID: What was the problem with the new PCT logo that they withdrew it? -- John Caster____ lungcancerhike.org johnbcasterline.com Facebook From doug.swam at outlook.com Tue Jul 25 15:42:44 2017 From: doug.swam at outlook.com (Doug Swam) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:42:44 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: it was ugly ________________________________ From: Pct-L on behalf of John Casterline Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:33 PM To: Pct-L at backcountry.net Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO What was the problem with the new PCT logo that they withdrew it? -- John Caster____ lungcancerhike.org johnbcasterline.com Facebook [https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/r270/c90.212.535.535/s200x200/10672380_754693271233080_8862315220677723967_n.jpg?oh=50de61cf19f4218a7fffbbea829f1d33&oe=59CADA3C] Lung Cancer Hike: A Hike of Hope - Home | Facebook www.facebook.com Lung Cancer Hike: A Hike of Hope. 255 likes. John B. Casterline, 70, and 3-time cancer survivor, is hiking the Pacific Crest Trail in a monumental effort... _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l Pct-L Info Page - Backcountry.Net mailman.backcountry.net To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Pct-L Archives. Using Pct-L: To post a message to all the list members, send email to ... List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From HStroh at sjmslaw.com Tue Jul 25 15:44:23 2017 From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:44:23 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The "A" looks an awful lot like what the FBI has identified as a symbol used by pedophiles: https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols Hope they can get their money back. Herb From clifreeder at gmail.com Tue Jul 25 15:46:26 2017 From: clifreeder at gmail.com (Clif Reeder) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:46:26 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm guess this: http://reddit.com/r/PacificCrestTrail/comments/6paz0f/pctas_new_logo_uses_a_pedophilia_symbol/ On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:42 PM Doug Swam wrote: > it was ugly > > > ________________________________ > From: Pct-L on behalf of John Casterline < > tnx4asking at gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:33 PM > To: Pct-L at backcountry.net > Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO > > What was the problem with the new PCT logo that they withdrew it? > > -- > John Caster____ > > lungcancerhike.org > > johnbcasterline.com > > Facebook > < > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lung-Cancer-Hike-A-Hike-of-Hope/156690367700043 > > > [ > https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/r270/c90.212.535.535/s200x200/10672380_754693271233080_8862315220677723967_n.jpg?oh=50de61cf19f4218a7fffbbea829f1d33&oe=59CADA3C > ]< > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lung-Cancer-Hike-A-Hike-of-Hope/156690367700043 > > > > Lung Cancer Hike: A Hike of Hope - Home | Facebook< > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lung-Cancer-Hike-A-Hike-of-Hope/156690367700043 > > > www.facebook.com > Lung Cancer Hike: A Hike of Hope. 255 likes. John B. Casterline, 70, and > 3-time cancer survivor, is hiking the Pacific Crest Trail in a monumental > effort... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > Pct-L Info Page - Backcountry.Net< > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> > mailman.backcountry.net > To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Pct-L > Archives. Using Pct-L: To post a message to all the list members, send > email to ... > > > > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > -- Clif Reeder From brick at brickrobbins.com Tue Jul 25 16:52:57 2017 From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:52:57 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: this is the best, consice explanation I have seen http://imgur.com/a/F0bhW On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Clif Reeder wrote: > I'm guess this: > http://reddit.com/r/PacificCrestTrail/comments/6paz0f/pctas_new_logo_uses_a_pedophilia_symbol/ > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:42 PM Doug Swam wrote: > >> it was ugly >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Pct-L on behalf of John Casterline < >> tnx4asking at gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:33 PM >> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net >> Subject: [pct-l] PCT LOGO >> >> What was the problem with the new PCT logo that they withdrew it? >> >> -- >> John Caster____ >> >> lungcancerhike.org >> >> johnbcasterline.com >> >> Facebook >> < >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lung-Cancer-Hike-A-Hike-of-Hope/156690367700043 >> > >> [ >> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/r270/c90.212.535.535/s200x200/10672380_754693271233080_8862315220677723967_n.jpg?oh=50de61cf19f4218a7fffbbea829f1d33&oe=59CADA3C >> ]< >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lung-Cancer-Hike-A-Hike-of-Hope/156690367700043 >> > >> >> Lung Cancer Hike: A Hike of Hope - Home | Facebook< >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lung-Cancer-Hike-A-Hike-of-Hope/156690367700043 >> > >> www.facebook.com >> Lung Cancer Hike: A Hike of Hope. 255 likes. John B. Casterline, 70, and >> 3-time cancer survivor, is hiking the Pacific Crest Trail in a monumental >> effort... >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pct-L mailing list >> Pct-L at backcountry.net >> To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l >> Pct-L Info Page - Backcountry.Net< >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l> >> mailman.backcountry.net >> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Pct-L >> Archives. 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From jharg at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 26 14:49:03 2017 From: jharg at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:49:03 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Thanks Lady Pegasus! Message-ID: Thanks so much for the ride from Weed to the PCT at Hwy 3. We've made it to Ashland and are now heading to central Oregon to continue where we left off in 2015 (Santiam Pass). You are the best!!! Slow and Steady (Meg and Jeff) Sent from my iPhone From mojavedeserthiker at gmail.com Thu Jul 27 22:50:12 2017 From: mojavedeserthiker at gmail.com (Russell) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 20:50:12 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Olancha Pas/Peak area water Message-ID: <000401d30754$9e7a2a50$db6e7ef0$@gmail.com> I assume there is plenty of water in Cow Creek and the other water sources in the Olancha Peak and Pass area. Anybody have any recent reports? Early June reports look like there was good flow. From larainekate at yahoo.com Sat Jul 29 20:39:13 2017 From: larainekate at yahoo.com (Laraine Downer) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 01:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] Snow conditions Castle Crag north to Ashland References: <2143243392.2663668.1501378753946.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2143243392.2663668.1501378753946@mail.yahoo.com> I was hoping to solo hike these sections beginning about August 16th. I see lots of postings in June and July about SNOW problems. If anyone has been up there more recently, would appreciate any info. you can offer. I have options of either beginning at Castle Crags or skip ahead to Hwy. 3 or Etna Summit. Prefer not to bring ice axe or crampons! Good luck to all out there on the trail, it's an amazing experience! Ladeda/Laraine