From janetgr at cableone.net Fri Jul 1 09:38:59 2016 From: janetgr at cableone.net (Janet Grossman) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 07:38:59 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] test also Message-ID: I haven't gotten any pct-l since June 10th. Brick says he doesn't see a problem in my account. Janet --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mike.sm64 at gmail.com Fri Jul 1 10:07:51 2016 From: mike.sm64 at gmail.com (Mike Smith) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:07:51 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] test also In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Janet (copy List), I had the same problem. Rather than resubscribe, I changed my options from digest to individual and that reactivated the subscription; I will soon change it back to digest. Best, --Mike On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Janet Grossman wrote: > I haven't gotten any pct-l since June 10th. Brick says he doesn't see a > problem in my account. > Janet > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From janetgr at cableone.net Fri Jul 1 10:22:52 2016 From: janetgr at cableone.net (Janet Grossman) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:22:52 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] test also In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0c194a26-67b7-caa7-d1ed-3fe4f8911f9e@cableone.net> Thanks, Mike, And Brick just changed me from digest to individual and lo and behold, I got my own test and your reply. Now to try changing back to digest and see what happens! Janet On 7/1/2016 8:07 AM, Mike Smith wrote: > Janet (copy List), > I had the same problem. Rather than resubscribe, I changed my > options from digest to individual and that reactivated the > subscription; I will soon change it back to digest. > Best, --Mike > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Janet Grossman > wrote: > > I haven't gotten any pct-l since June 10th. Brick says he doesn't > see a problem in my account. > Janet > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From grandpafaris at yahoo.com Fri Jul 1 19:44:37 2016 From: grandpafaris at yahoo.com (Jim Faris) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] (no subject) References: <293405125.641260.1467420277836.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <293405125.641260.1467420277836.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com Mon Jul 4 15:41:31 2016 From: andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com (Andrea Dinsmore) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:41:31 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Conditions from Canadian border to Stevens Pass 7.4.16 Message-ID: For those individuals that are interested in conditions of the North Cascade section of the PCT from the border to Stevens Pass. This is what I encountered; * The fastest way to Monument 78 is to take the Robertson Creek trail to the boundary trail to the PCT. That leaves you about four miles to go. * From the border to Castle Pass there are blow downs and new vegetation over the trail. * From Castel Pass to Hopkins Pass you will find a few blow downs but clear for the most part. * From Hopkins Pas to Woody Pass snow, expect snow on steep inclines. This section will be spaced out. Foot prints will melt away in a day. * Woody Pass to Rock Pass you should expect steep snow patches on the step trail. Take time to be safe here, water and rocky conditions * Rock Pass to Holman Pass is spotty with snow and some blow downs. * Holman Pass to Jim Pass expect blow downs, sections of snow on the north west parts of the trail. * Holman Pass to Harts Pass you will find snow over the trail in spots, debris on the trail, soft edges of the trail where you can see cracking of the trails edges. * Harts Pass to Glacier Pass You will find snow in shaded sections on the trail through contours of terrain. * From Glacier Pass to Methow Pass expect to move slow. It is like a bomb had gone off and took out the trail with blow downs. I found it to be faster to parallel the trail a few feet off than to climb through the mess. Coming south when you hit the footbridge where trail 480 heads east to river bend is the last of blowdown trail to Methow. There was snow and blow downs the the last few miles before Methow pass when I went through. * Methow Pass to Cutthroat Pass I encountered snow in sections, steep washed out sections of trail, good size rocks on the trail. * From Cutthroat Pass to Rainy pass I started in snow and walked down out of it. I encountered some blow downs but it looks as the PCTA have stared to take care of some. * From Rainy Pass to High Bridge (Stehekin) I did turn in this information at the ranger station in Stehekin. I few blow downs, the trail has some over growth but not bad. My travel was smooth and uninterrupted for the most part. I made note that on the cable bridge over the water fall had some board spacers missing and the cable that go through them missing. The main support cables looked good to me so I crossed it. it does need some TLC. * From High Bridge Hemlock Camp you will have little to worry about. Smooth sailing. *From Hemlock to Plummer Bassin you will have snow patches on sitting bull * From Plummer Bassin to Suiattle Pass I had off and on snow sections. * From Suiattle Pass to Suiattle river bridge. No worries * From Suiattle River Bridge to the Vista Glacier bowl I had smooth going until the switch backs heading up the mountain where i encountered blow downs here and there and snow a few miles to the top into the bowl. * From the vista to Beakos Creek crossing There are a few blow downs and lots of new vegetation over grow obscuring the trail. Some where in here there is a section of trail missing and we climbed to the switch back ten feet above us. * From Beakos Creek Crossing to Reds Pass we encountered a good amount of snow took some time to locate the trail and move in this area. * From Reds Pass to White Pass there was snow across the trail on steep inclines and snow water melts making very sketchy Ice bridge crossings. Not real cool to do. * From White Pass to lake Sally ann In the snow for most part with varying angles of edging foot work needed. I kept my axe on my pack. We did have one issue with navigation that took five minutes to figure out, the PCT trail turns under the snow. We helped out some lost over night hikers here, they were lost. * From Lake Sally Ann to Wenatchee Pass we Had on and of again snow crossings. Along here and there blow downs. * From Wenatchee Pass to Rainy Pass we Had on and of again snow crossings. Along here and there blow downs. Now keep in mind the the weather is changing things and that foot steps are disappearing. Have a map , compass and know how to use them. I recommend having at least one day extra food with you. I do, it is also good currency to trade for other snacks. Know what you are getting into and have the skills and equipment for it.. Be safe out there......" MR. Z": From gary_schenk at verizon.net Wed Jul 6 09:28:22 2016 From: gary_schenk at verizon.net (Gary Schenk) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:28:22 -0400 Subject: [pct-l] Another Record Attempt Message-ID: <155c09c1690-37f9-15ab4@webprd-m25.mail.aol.com> Monday, the Better Half and I were up in the Piutes to scramble up Weldon Peak. On the way back to the car we saw a hiker headed sobo on the trail. Turns out he was the support for Karel Sabbe, a Belgian trying to set the fastest time on the PCT. He said they were doing OK. The fires down south had thrown them off schedule, but they were still in good shape to set the record. We wished them well. Gary From reinholdmetzger at cox.net Wed Jul 6 13:32:42 2016 From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 11:32:42 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Another Record Attempt Message-ID: <570b2554-5676-21be-a2a1-3eb5d56d28bd@cox.net> I assume that means Karel is doing it with a support team, not self supported. JMT Reinhold ..................................................................................................... [pct-l] Another Record Attempt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monday, the Better Half and I were up in the Piutes to scramble up Weldon Peak. On the way back to the car we saw a hiker headed sobo on the trail. Turns out he was the support for Karel Sabbe, a Belgian trying to set the fastest time on the PCT. He said they were doing OK. The fires down south had thrown them off schedule, but they were still in good shape to set the record. We wished them well. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From grandpafaris at yahoo.com Wed Jul 6 23:51:21 2016 From: grandpafaris at yahoo.com (Jim Faris) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 04:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] kenndy medowsm ride 1 way References: <188213762.2972817.1467867081307.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <188213762.2972817.1467867081307.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> is anybody going to kenndy mjedows or in the area from riverside ?or area around ,, need a Ride ????? ?my name is Jim ,,,, ?slowdown ? been on the trail had a problem with my foot and Hope i solved ?it ?looking to get on the trail want to go around 17 ?to the 24 ?? From rickrparker at icloud.com Thu Jul 7 16:24:49 2016 From: rickrparker at icloud.com (Rick Parker) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:24:49 -0500 Subject: [pct-l] Sierra Mosquitos Message-ID: Anyone have a sense of mosquitos from Reds Meadow to Sonora Pass July 25th to August 10th? Thanks Rick From grandpafaris at yahoo.com Thu Jul 7 16:46:28 2016 From: grandpafaris at yahoo.com (Jim Faris) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 21:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] Hyperlite References: <218280231.3573295.1467927988142.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <218280231.3573295.1467927988142.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> i had a little problem ,I sent the pack back to them to see what they could do to fix it.. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?they said they could fix it,, but i needed it soon so they said they would send me a new 3400 Winderrider ? ? ? ??wow was i shocked and their gear is good they built the pack ,,+++ ? Becket and the team ?backed there gear 100 %?Thank you very much Hyperlite... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jim (( Slowdown? From grandpafaris at yahoo.com Thu Jul 7 17:03:04 2016 From: grandpafaris at yahoo.com (Jim Faris) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 22:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] (no subject) References: <1705338552.3598208.1467928984706.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1705338552.3598208.1467928984706.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> here i come Hyperlite mountian gear worked with me ?on my Backpack had a prob with said it would take a weeks and ,, i have been doing the PCT ?and ?it would take some time ,, i said i am on the trail can you help ,, they called me back and said they could help,, wow they did , thank you so much ?Hyperlite ,,,.. ? ? their sending me a new pack ?that is above and beyond .... Than thank's again ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Jim /// ?Slowdown \\\ From baidarker at gmail.com Fri Jul 8 00:57:53 2016 From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 22:57:53 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Sierra Mosquitos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Rick, That's usually a better time than earlier in July. It gets better the later you go into August, but always figure mosquitoes can be an issue in the high country in the short summer that region experiences. I don't carry anything different from June through Sept. up there. I like Exofficio clothes mainly because they last for many miles, but also because some of them are treated with permethryn, an insecticide. I also send clothes off to Insect Shield in N. Carolina to have them treated professionally. In my waist band pocket I always keep a head net as that is the first place a swarm of mosquitoes in the Sierra, or those nasty face flies in the deserts, seem to head for. It's such a quick relief to just whip that sucker on in a pinch. I also carry deet, but seldom use it, as the clothing and net are usually enough. Also, a bug proof shelter is essential unless you want to struggle with night born attacks. I just get a better sleep when I've got bug protection up there. Choose your camp sights well. Down near the water is always more buggy than up on a breezy height. That alone can help a lot. I'm using all of this in Madagascar this summer where malarial mosquitoes are the issue when in the jungles. So far so good. It's the dead of winter down here and while present, the bugs are not as bad as during the Southern summer. Have a great hike! The High Sierra is wonderful! Shroomer On Jul 7, 2016 11:24 PM, "Rick Parker" wrote: > Anyone have a sense of mosquitos from Reds Meadow to Sonora Pass July 25th > to August 10th? > > Thanks > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From melaniekclarke at gmail.com Fri Jul 8 09:30:51 2016 From: melaniekclarke at gmail.com (Melanie Clarke) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 07:30:51 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Sierra Mosquitos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I started my section hike in Tuolumne. I didn't think the Mosquitoes were too bad except for about 14 miles south of Dorothy Pass. This is a relatively flat section but it is completely flooded by the melting snow from the mountains on the east and west. Mosquitoes are numerous. I treated all my clothing with Permethrin before I left. This kept most away but I had a couple mosquitoes bite on my Permethrin treated clothing. But the vast majority stayed away. I hiked this area with my zipped off hiking pants and had DEET on my lower legs. The many stream crossings before this section washed away some of the DEET and I didn't reapply so I had a few bites on my legs. I wore a mosquito head net and hundreds of mosquitoes clung to my head net trying to get in. It was quite a dramatic display. Good luck, need protection in this area. m On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Rick Parker wrote: > Anyone have a sense of mosquitos from Reds Meadow to Sonora Pass July 25th > to August 10th? > > Thanks > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From sjspergel at gmail.com Sun Jul 10 17:06:37 2016 From: sjspergel at gmail.com (Sarah Spergel) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:06:37 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues Message-ID: Hi Lisa, I had metatarsalgia last summer hiking the CDT so bad that I could not walk without doping myself up on Ibuprofen, eventually got off trail, and had pain for a few months afterwards. Metatarsal pads helped me a lot--but not the drugstore ones, which I had trouble keeping in place. I've had a lot of success with Aetrex Lynco 405 orthotics--see: https://www.amazon.com/AETREX-LYNCO-SPORTS-L405M-ORTHOTICS/dp/B00F2259S4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1468188219&sr=8-1&keywords=lynco+orthotics--men's orthotics and men's shoes. No foot problems since, knock on wood. I agree with others that there are few one-size-fits all solutions for feet, but these orthotics really helped me. Best, Hatchet > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:08:51 -0700 > From: Traveler > To: PCT MailingList > Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi, > > Been training for my Oregon section hike coming up July 28th. Started > experiencing foot pain recently. It may be originating from my metatarsals, > but has permeated to other areas of my feet as well. > > How does one manage this while training, and even more importantly, on the > trail? Do metatarsal pads help? If so, any good recommendations? > > I recently switched to the Brooks Cascadia 10 and feel that although my > feet may have been an underlying problem already, the shoes have > exacerbated the condition. Thoughts? > > Thanks, > Lisa > > ------------------------------ > From melaniekclarke at gmail.com Sun Jul 10 22:27:35 2016 From: melaniekclarke at gmail.com (Melanie Clarke) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 20:27:35 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If there is too much repetitive stress on your Metatarsals, try standing up a little bit straighter so the center of gravity of the weight of your body moves back a bit, to the larger bones of the foot (which is the heel). Check your posture in a mirror with a pack. Are you hunched forward too much? Try altering this just a bit so you feel the weight of your body moving towards your heel. Metatarsals are small delicate bones compared to the Calcaneus; which is attached to strong leg bones and can deliver this load to the powerful muscles and strong bones of the leg. Metatarsals were never intended to take a heavy continuous pounding. There is no insole to remedy this or magic strong enough if you have poor posture. Watch the posture and weight distribution of an experienced, successful PCT hiker with a pack. I am a tall female and have slouched most of my life so when I started hiking, I had the same problem with my Metatarsals. Slouching also gave me herniated discs. To prevent further back and Metatarsal pain, I have to make sure I am maintaining proper spinal placement. A good illustrated book on this subject is *8 Steps to a Pain Free Back* by Ester Gokhale (I have no part of her organization and do not profit from this recommendation in any way except for the supreme satisfaction of helping another hiker) Diet Plan On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sarah Spergel wrote: > Hi Lisa, > I had metatarsalgia last summer hiking the CDT so bad that I could not walk > without doping myself up on Ibuprofen, eventually got off trail, and had > pain for a few months afterwards. Metatarsal pads helped me a lot--but not > the drugstore ones, which I had trouble keeping in place. I've had a lot of > success with Aetrex Lynco 405 orthotics--see: > > https://www.amazon.com/AETREX-LYNCO-SPORTS-L405M-ORTHOTICS/dp/B00F2259S4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1468188219&sr=8-1&keywords=lynco+orthotics--men's > orthotics and men's shoes. No foot problems since, knock on wood. I agree > with others that there are few one-size-fits all solutions for feet, but > these orthotics really helped me. > Best, > Hatchet > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:08:51 -0700 > > From: Traveler > > To: PCT MailingList > > Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Hi, > > > > Been training for my Oregon section hike coming up July 28th. Started > > experiencing foot pain recently. It may be originating from my > metatarsals, > > but has permeated to other areas of my feet as well. > > > > How does one manage this while training, and even more importantly, on > the > > trail? Do metatarsal pads help? If so, any good recommendations? > > > > I recently switched to the Brooks Cascadia 10 and feel that although my > > feet may have been an underlying problem already, the shoes have > > exacerbated the condition. Thoughts? > > > > Thanks, > > Lisa > > > > ------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From grandpafaris at yahoo.com Tue Jul 12 09:57:29 2016 From: grandpafaris at yahoo.com (Jim Faris) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] need ride 22-24 July References: <515123929.1743152.1468335449514.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <515123929.1743152.1468335449514.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> ?my name slowdown or Jim ? riverside area ?to Kennedy meadow ... ? From shovelchucker at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 00:33:41 2016 From: shovelchucker at gmail.com (Shovel Chucker) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:33:41 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Big help to me (bad neuromas at metatarsal w/ plantar fasciitis).... Extremely scientific inserts: https://www.footlevelers.com/traction/index.php/why-custom-orthotics & Bomber arch support brooks addiction: http://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/brooks-addiction-12-mens-running-shoes/110196.html?dwvar_110196_color=061#start=15 On Sunday, July 10, 2016, Melanie Clarke wrote: > If there is too much repetitive stress on your Metatarsals, try standing up > a little bit straighter so the center of gravity of the weight of your body > moves back a bit, to the larger bones of the foot (which is the heel). > Check your posture in a mirror with a pack. Are you hunched forward too > much? Try altering this just a bit so you feel the weight of your body > moving towards your heel. > > Metatarsals are small delicate bones compared to the Calcaneus; which is > attached to strong leg bones and can deliver this load to the powerful > muscles and strong bones of the leg. Metatarsals were never intended to > take a heavy continuous pounding. There is no insole to remedy this or > magic strong enough if you have poor posture. Watch the posture and weight > distribution of an experienced, successful PCT hiker with a pack. > > I am a tall female and have slouched most of my life so when I started > hiking, I had the same problem with my Metatarsals. Slouching also gave me > herniated discs. To prevent further back and Metatarsal pain, I have to > make sure I am maintaining proper spinal placement. > > A good illustrated book on this subject is *8 Steps to a Pain Free Back* by > Ester Gokhale (I have no part of her organization and do not profit from > this recommendation in any way except for the supreme satisfaction of > helping another hiker) > > Diet Plan > > > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sarah Spergel > wrote: > > > Hi Lisa, > > I had metatarsalgia last summer hiking the CDT so bad that I could not > walk > > without doping myself up on Ibuprofen, eventually got off trail, and had > > pain for a few months afterwards. Metatarsal pads helped me a lot--but > not > > the drugstore ones, which I had trouble keeping in place. I've had a lot > of > > success with Aetrex Lynco 405 orthotics--see: > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/AETREX-LYNCO-SPORTS-L405M-ORTHOTICS/dp/B00F2259S4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1468188219&sr=8-1&keywords=lynco+orthotics--men's > > orthotics and men's shoes. No foot problems since, knock on wood. I agree > > with others that there are few one-size-fits all solutions for feet, but > > these orthotics really helped me. > > Best, > > Hatchet > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:08:51 -0700 > > > From: Traveler > > > > To: PCT MailingList > > > > Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues > > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Been training for my Oregon section hike coming up July 28th. Started > > > experiencing foot pain recently. It may be originating from my > > metatarsals, > > > but has permeated to other areas of my feet as well. > > > > > > How does one manage this while training, and even more importantly, on > > the > > > trail? Do metatarsal pads help? If so, any good recommendations? > > > > > > I recently switched to the Brooks Cascadia 10 and feel that although my > > > feet may have been an underlying problem already, the shoes have > > > exacerbated the condition. Thoughts? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Lisa > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pct-L mailing list > > Pct-L at backcountry.net > > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > > > List Archives: > > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From shovelchucker at gmail.com Sat Jul 16 00:36:21 2016 From: shovelchucker at gmail.com (Shovel Chucker) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 22:36:21 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: (Women's:) http://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/brooks-addiction-12-womens-running-shoes/120188.html?dwvar_120188_color=463#start=5 On Friday, July 15, 2016, Shovel Chucker wrote: > Big help to me (bad neuromas at metatarsal w/ plantar fasciitis).... > > Extremely scientific inserts: > https://www.footlevelers.com/traction/index.php/why-custom-orthotics > > & > > Bomber arch support brooks addiction: > > http://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/brooks-addiction-12-mens-running-shoes/110196.html?dwvar_110196_color=061#start=15 > > > > On Sunday, July 10, 2016, Melanie Clarke > wrote: > >> If there is too much repetitive stress on your Metatarsals, try standing >> up >> a little bit straighter so the center of gravity of the weight of your >> body >> moves back a bit, to the larger bones of the foot (which is the heel). >> Check your posture in a mirror with a pack. Are you hunched forward too >> much? Try altering this just a bit so you feel the weight of your body >> moving towards your heel. >> >> Metatarsals are small delicate bones compared to the Calcaneus; which is >> attached to strong leg bones and can deliver this load to the powerful >> muscles and strong bones of the leg. Metatarsals were never intended to >> take a heavy continuous pounding. There is no insole to remedy this or >> magic strong enough if you have poor posture. Watch the posture and >> weight >> distribution of an experienced, successful PCT hiker with a pack. >> >> I am a tall female and have slouched most of my life so when I started >> hiking, I had the same problem with my Metatarsals. Slouching also gave >> me >> herniated discs. To prevent further back and Metatarsal pain, I have to >> make sure I am maintaining proper spinal placement. >> >> A good illustrated book on this subject is *8 Steps to a Pain Free Back* >> by >> Ester Gokhale (I have no part of her organization and do not profit from >> this recommendation in any way except for the supreme satisfaction of >> helping another hiker) >> >> Diet Plan >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sarah Spergel >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Lisa, >> > I had metatarsalgia last summer hiking the CDT so bad that I could not >> walk >> > without doping myself up on Ibuprofen, eventually got off trail, and had >> > pain for a few months afterwards. Metatarsal pads helped me a lot--but >> not >> > the drugstore ones, which I had trouble keeping in place. I've had a >> lot of >> > success with Aetrex Lynco 405 orthotics--see: >> > >> > >> https://www.amazon.com/AETREX-LYNCO-SPORTS-L405M-ORTHOTICS/dp/B00F2259S4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1468188219&sr=8-1&keywords=lynco+orthotics--men's >> > orthotics and men's shoes. No foot problems since, knock on wood. I >> agree >> > with others that there are few one-size-fits all solutions for feet, but >> > these orthotics really helped me. >> > Best, >> > Hatchet >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > Message: 1 >> > > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:08:51 -0700 >> > > From: Traveler >> > > To: PCT MailingList >> > > Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues >> > > Message-ID: >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > Been training for my Oregon section hike coming up July 28th. Started >> > > experiencing foot pain recently. It may be originating from my >> > metatarsals, >> > > but has permeated to other areas of my feet as well. >> > > >> > > How does one manage this while training, and even more importantly, on >> > the >> > > trail? Do metatarsal pads help? If so, any good recommendations? >> > > >> > > I recently switched to the Brooks Cascadia 10 and feel that although >> my >> > > feet may have been an underlying problem already, the shoes have >> > > exacerbated the condition. Thoughts? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Lisa >> > > >> > > ------------------------------ >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pct-L mailing list >> > Pct-L at backcountry.net >> > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l >> > >> > List Archives: >> > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ >> > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. >> > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Pct-L mailing list >> Pct-L at backcountry.net >> To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l >> >> List Archives: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ >> All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. >> Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. >> > From switchgoose at yahoo.com Sat Jul 16 11:43:24 2016 From: switchgoose at yahoo.com (Traveler) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:43:24 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08300281-879E-4BF7-99D7-B5EE649400D4@yahoo.com> Hi, I just wanted to thank everyone who responded to my feet/metatarsal questions. Although I haven?t had the time to respond to each individually, I have really appreciated the feedback and have learned a lot. I did an 8 mile training hike yesterday using some of the techniques and suggestions provided and had no pain. Whew! Thanks again! Lisa > On Jul 10, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Sarah Spergel wrote: > > Hi Lisa, > I had metatarsalgia last summer hiking the CDT so bad that I could not walk > without doping myself up on Ibuprofen, eventually got off trail, and had > pain for a few months afterwards. Metatarsal pads helped me a lot--but not > the drugstore ones, which I had trouble keeping in place. I've had a lot of > success with Aetrex Lynco 405 orthotics--see: > https://www.amazon.com/AETREX-LYNCO-SPORTS-L405M-ORTHOTICS/dp/B00F2259S4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1468188219&sr=8-1&keywords=lynco+orthotics--men's > orthotics and men's shoes. No foot problems since, knock on wood. I agree > with others that there are few one-size-fits all solutions for feet, but > these orthotics really helped me. > Best, > Hatchet > > > >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:08:51 -0700 >> From: Traveler >> To: PCT MailingList >> Subject: [pct-l] Metatarsal issues >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Hi, >> >> Been training for my Oregon section hike coming up July 28th. Started >> experiencing foot pain recently. It may be originating from my metatarsals, >> but has permeated to other areas of my feet as well. >> >> How does one manage this while training, and even more importantly, on the >> trail? Do metatarsal pads help? If so, any good recommendations? >> >> I recently switched to the Brooks Cascadia 10 and feel that although my >> feet may have been an underlying problem already, the shoes have >> exacerbated the condition. Thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> Lisa >> >> ------------------------------ >> > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From hkeys26 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 19 15:50:59 2016 From: hkeys26 at hotmail.com (Heather Keys) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:50:59 -0600 Subject: [pct-l] Ouachita Trail Message-ID: Hello, Several months ago someone wrote in about the Ouachita trail and how much they enjoyed their experience. I can't remember who it was, but I've decided to do the trail this fall. If anyone out there has hiked this trail I would love to pick your brain a little. Could you contact me off list? On another note, I have heard of hiking trails across England. Has anyone done this? Its another one I am considering and would love to chat. Thanks! Heather From susan at newstories.org Tue Jul 19 22:15:18 2016 From: susan at newstories.org (Susan Virnig) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:15:18 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-L??? Message-ID: <1B853DCA-20B1-4285-81C3-A031303EEF87@newstories.org> The last posting I received from PCT-L was June 10. All of a sudden on July 8, I received one more posting. What?s up? Has this list died? ?Susan from Spokane (Sunshine) From lucecruz13 at gmail.com Tue Jul 19 22:51:48 2016 From: lucecruz13 at gmail.com (Luce Cruz) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:51:48 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-L??? In-Reply-To: <1B853DCA-20B1-4285-81C3-A031303EEF87@newstories.org> References: <1B853DCA-20B1-4285-81C3-A031303EEF87@newstories.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Susan Virnig wrote: > The last posting I received from PCT-L was June 10. All of a sudden on > July 8, I received one more posting. What?s up? Has this list died? > > ?Susan from Spokane (Sunshine) My guess is people are out hiking, enjoying summer. I'll be joining them every chance I get soon. -- Luce Cruz From baidarker at gmail.com Tue Jul 19 23:29:58 2016 From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:29:58 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] what happened to PCT-L??? In-Reply-To: References: <1B853DCA-20B1-4285-81C3-A031303EEF87@newstories.org> Message-ID: Yeah, always seems to be a lull about this time. Many of us are out on trail. Shroomer On Jul 20, 2016 5:51 AM, "Luce Cruz" wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Susan Virnig > wrote: > > > The last posting I received from PCT-L was June 10. All of a sudden on > > July 8, I received one more posting. What?s up? Has this list died? > > > > ?Susan from Spokane (Sunshine) > > > My guess is people are out hiking, enjoying summer. I'll be joining them > every chance I get soon. > > -- > Luce Cruz > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From brick at brickrobbins.com Wed Jul 20 13:52:24 2016 From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:52:24 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Bill Person of Pooh Corner has passed away Message-ID: I received notice today that trail angel Bill Person of "Pooh Corner" fame (near Donner Summit) passed away on 7 July this year. He will be missed. From katyshaw at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 15:42:40 2016 From: katyshaw at gmail.com (Katy Shaw) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:42:40 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection Message-ID: Hi there I'm looking for recommendations on cases to protect my phone while I'm backpacking. Any suggestions? I have an iPhone 6. Thanks Katy From bwatt at 1fifoto.com Wed Jul 20 15:45:16 2016 From: bwatt at 1fifoto.com (Brian Watt) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:45:16 -0500 Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5aebd85c-a611-0ce0-3d23-43b28efbb9e9@1fifoto.com> I used a LifeProof for my iPhone 5 and 6: http://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/iphone-6s/fre-for-iphone-6-6s/lpfr-apl-iph15.html Sincerely, Brian "Tartan" Watt PCT 2014 From geraldbking at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 16:48:35 2016 From: geraldbking at gmail.com (Jerry's gmail) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:48:35 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I used Lifeproof Fre. Very waterproof and rugged. I'm a land surveyor and SAR volunteer, so its had it's workout! > On Jul 20, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Katy Shaw wrote: > > Hi there > > I'm looking for recommendations on cases to protect my phone while I'm > backpacking. Any suggestions? > > I have an iPhone 6. > > Thanks > Katy > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com Wed Jul 20 17:47:19 2016 From: andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com (Andrea Dinsmore) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:47:19 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Bill Person of Pooh Corner has passed away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So sorry to hear this. Bill's place was a popular place on the Lake to stay. Another Angel gone to Heaven. Andrea and Jerry Dinsmore On Jul 20, 2016 11:52 AM, "Brick Robbins" wrote: > I received notice today that trail angel Bill Person of "Pooh Corner" > fame (near Donner Summit) passed away on 7 July this year. > > He will be missed. > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > > From ned at mountaineducation.org Wed Jul 20 19:23:37 2016 From: ned at mountaineducation.org (ned at mountaineducation.org) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:23:37 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03b101d1e2e6$205853b0$6108fb10$@mountaineducation.org> ...but don't the waterproof cell phone cases make you sound like you're in a can? -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Jerry's gmail Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:49 PM To: Katy Shaw Cc: PCT MailingList Subject: Re: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection I used Lifeproof Fre. Very waterproof and rugged. I'm a land surveyor and SAR volunteer, so its had it's workout! > On Jul 20, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Katy Shaw wrote: > > Hi there > > I'm looking for recommendations on cases to protect my phone while I'm > backpacking. Any suggestions? > > I have an iPhone 6. > > Thanks > Katy > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From ned at mountaineducation.org Wed Jul 20 19:30:05 2016 From: ned at mountaineducation.org (ned at mountaineducation.org) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:30:05 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Bill Person of Pooh Corner has passed away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03c101d1e2e7$07e584a0$17b08de0$@mountaineducation.org> I knew Bill well as he was my National Ski Patrol Outdoor Emergency Care instructor! So sad about his fall a few years back and long road of recovery to this end. I know he gave out a lot to the hiking community as a Donner Lake trail angel and had several bad experiences with a few that made him close his doors before his accident. He will be missed! -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Andrea Dinsmore Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:47 PM To: Brick Robbins Cc: PCT-L Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bill Person of Pooh Corner has passed away So sorry to hear this. Bill's place was a popular place on the Lake to stay. Another Angel gone to Heaven. Andrea and Jerry Dinsmore On Jul 20, 2016 11:52 AM, "Brick Robbins" wrote: > I received notice today that trail angel Bill Person of "Pooh Corner" > fame (near Donner Summit) passed away on 7 July this year. > > He will be missed. > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > > _______________________________________________ Pct-L mailing list Pct-L at backcountry.net To unsubscribe, or change options visit: http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l List Archives: http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From HStroh at sjmslaw.com Wed Jul 20 19:34:51 2016 From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:34:51 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection In-Reply-To: <03b101d1e2e6$205853b0$6108fb10$@mountaineducation.org> References: <03b101d1e2e6$205853b0$6108fb10$@mountaineducation.org> Message-ID: <4413bcd56c9842ceaa59d56078497d3c@MALAWI.SJLM.local> I also use the Lifeproof on trail and love it. Not overly cumbersome given the protection, and it does not have the 'tin can' effect that some cases do. Downsides--expensive; to reach the headphones jack you need a specially designed connector (comes with the case) to screw into the jack. I just keep it attached to the headphones, so that is not a significant detriment. The power cord that comes from Apple fits fine through the case, but some car chargers have a bit too much bulk near the tip of the charger and will not get past the case. Herb -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of ned at mountaineducation.org Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 5:24 PM To: 'Jerry's gmail'; 'Katy Shaw' Cc: 'PCT MailingList' Subject: Re: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection ...but don't the waterproof cell phone cases make you sound like you're in a can? -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Jerry's gmail Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:49 PM To: Katy Shaw Cc: PCT MailingList Subject: Re: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection I used Lifeproof Fre. Very waterproof and rugged. I'm a land surveyor and SAR volunteer, so its had it's workout! > On Jul 20, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Katy Shaw wrote: > > Hi there > > I'm looking for recommendations on cases to protect my phone while I'm > backpacking. Any suggestions? > > I have an iPhone 6. > > Thanks > Katy > From geraldbking at gmail.com Wed Jul 20 21:56:51 2016 From: geraldbking at gmail.com (Jerry's gmail) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 19:56:51 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection In-Reply-To: <03b101d1e2e6$205853b0$6108fb10$@mountaineducation.org> References: <03b101d1e2e6$205853b0$6108fb10$@mountaineducation.org> Message-ID: <7F517E7B-4D71-45AA-AED8-1E5F026CA18E@gmail.com> The sound quality is slightly degraded; not enough to kill the deal. Plus, although I'm 60, the younger generation doesn't talk, they text :) > On Jul 20, 2016, at 5:23 PM, wrote: > > ...but don't the waterproof cell phone cases make you sound like you're in a > can? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Jerry's > gmail > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:49 PM > To: Katy Shaw > Cc: PCT MailingList > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection > > I used Lifeproof Fre. Very waterproof and rugged. I'm a land surveyor and > SAR volunteer, so its had it's workout! > >> On Jul 20, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Katy Shaw wrote: >> >> Hi there >> >> I'm looking for recommendations on cases to protect my phone while I'm >> backpacking. Any suggestions? >> >> I have an iPhone 6. >> >> Thanks >> Katy >> _______________________________________________ >> Pct-L mailing list >> Pct-L at backcountry.net >> To unsubscribe, or change options visit: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l >> >> List Archives: >> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ >> All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. >> Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From ksmraleigh at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 12:17:06 2016 From: ksmraleigh at comcast.net (Ken Martin) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 17:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] Reestablish connection In-Reply-To: <1365452932.4532189.1469121366612.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1674228177.4533199.1469121426881.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Please tell me how to reestablish my connection to the list. From dylanpatrickclark at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 11:22:28 2016 From: dylanpatrickclark at gmail.com (dylan patrick clark) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:22:28 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Looking for Recommendations on Phone Cases/Protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I purchased the Seidio case for my iPhone 6+ after reading this article ( http://m.thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-waterproof-case-for-iphone-6/). For the 6 they recommend the Lifeproof "Fre" case. One problem with my case, which I discovered after 700 miles of the dusty SoCal desert, was the diminished camera quality caused by the accumulation of dust and scratches on the case's camera window. It is difficult (impossible?) to clean. This problem may plague other cases as well. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 1:42 PM Katy Shaw wrote: > Hi there > > I'm looking for recommendations on cases to protect my phone while I'm > backpacking. Any suggestions? > > I have an iPhone 6. > > Thanks > Katy > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From brick at brickrobbins.com Thu Jul 21 15:30:43 2016 From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:30:43 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Reestablish connection In-Reply-To: <1674228177.4533199.1469121426881.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1365452932.4532189.1469121366612.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <1674228177.4533199.1469121426881.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: it looks like you have On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Ken Martin wrote: > Please tell me how to reestablish my connection to the list. > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From luckymanhikes at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 22:11:51 2016 From: luckymanhikes at gmail.com (Lucky Man) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 23:11:51 -0400 Subject: [pct-l] Exiting at Harts Pass Message-ID: I'm in Trout Lake hiking the Washington section of the PCT. I don't have a passport (originally planned this chunk for next year) and am hoping I can backtrack 30 miles from the border to Harts Pass rather than 60 miles to Rainy Pass. How hard is it typically to hitch a ride from Harts? Usfs website says the road is open. Also, what's the best way to get from the Burlington-Mount Vernon area to Seattle and Seatac? Good news: Despite last year's fires in Washington, SOBOers say the trail is open and mostly in good shape, thanks to some hardworking trail crews, who are much appreciated. From jjolson58 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 14:43:14 2016 From: jjolson58 at gmail.com (Jeffrey Olson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:43:14 -0600 Subject: [pct-l] Goat Rocks area - snow? Message-ID: <9fe83152-36d9-2904-2e66-4e265a57850b@gmail.com> I'm hiking through the Goat Rocks area and am wondering if there is any snow left - especially the part between elk pass and the packwood glacier. Thanks... Jeff Laramie, WY --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ned at mountaineducation.org Fri Jul 22 16:02:58 2016 From: ned at mountaineducation.org (ned at mountaineducation.org) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:02:58 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] 2017 Mountain Education snow courses 20% discounts Message-ID: <047b01d1e45c$6d667390$48335ab0$@mountaineducation.org> Hey, guys! I wanted to thank everyone for realizing the importance of wilderness education and safety as a prerequisite to greater peace of mind and further enjoyment on their next mountain trips. 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Please consider supporting our 501(c)(3) whose Mission is: "To minimize wilderness accidents, injury, and illness in order to maximize wilderness enjoyment, safety, and personal growth, all through experiential education and risk awareness training." So, take a look at our course dates and descriptions for 2017 and take advantage of the current discounts! Ned Tibbits Mountain Education, Inc. From sean.nordeen at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 11:40:12 2016 From: sean.nordeen at gmail.com (Sean Nordeen) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:40:12 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Bill Person of Pooh Corner has passed away Message-ID: I stayed overnight at Pooh's Corner on July 23, 2009. As we were behind the main herd (which was much smaller then), it was just a small but pleasant group staying. The food was excellent; especially the brownies and ice cream! We had fun with the climbing wall. One guy was able to get a ride to REI the next morning thanks to him. When I heard he shut down hosting, I was saddened that we lost another great trail angel that had contributed in a meaningful way to my hike. In fact, of the trail angeles I stayed with that year, only the Dinsmore's still do it. Bill will be missed. -Miner From karen.kellerford at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 12:14:22 2016 From: karen.kellerford at gmail.com (Karen Keller) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:14:22 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Truckee parking Message-ID: I am in need of a safe place to park my Honda CR-V from now to first of October. I am hiking southbound from Sierra City to Lone Pine/Kennedy Meadows. Appreciate any ideas anyone has. I'll need to get back to the car when I'm finished via public transportation. So parking it somewhere relatively near the bus station would be good. Alternately, I could park it near loan pine or Kennedy Meadows. Ideas? Anyone? Sent from my iPhone From tnx4asking at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 20:27:52 2016 From: tnx4asking at gmail.com (John Casterline) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:27:52 -0400 Subject: [pct-l] Garmin GPSmap 60CSx Message-ID: I have a Garmin GPSmap60 CSx with a PCT chip (5 years old) that I will give to the first person to contact me offline for the price of shipping. tnx4asking at gmail.com -- John Caster____ lungcancerhike.org johnbcasterline.com Facebook From wandering_bob at comcast.net Sun Jul 24 10:00:32 2016 From: wandering_bob at comcast.net (Bob Bankhead) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 08:00:32 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Re-Connect Message-ID: <000001d1e5bc$2080cf60$61826e20$@comcast.net> I still can't get posts from either the CDT- or PCT- forums. I've tried switching to Digest Mode (still nothing) and back again (also nothing). The only way I can see any posts is by using the Archive. Does Comcast hate backcountry.net or what? From julia.gorman0 at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 15:28:53 2016 From: julia.gorman0 at gmail.com (Julia Gorman) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 13:28:53 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Oregon Day Hike Message-ID: <3BB92FDB-ECBF-4865-9194-9AA442DD9F58@gmail.com> I was planning to do a 17 mile day hike that goes in both section E and F of Oregon. I wanted to start north at Hwy 20 (Santiam Pass) and then head south to the the connection at Hwy 242 (Mackenzie Pass) I was going to have a friend pick me up. I was wondering if anyone knew those places and could give me directions to the trailhead so I wouldn't miss it and I could tell my friend where to meet me. I know how to get to the highways just not where the trail heads are located. Julia Gorman From davemention at icloud.com Sun Jul 24 19:28:18 2016 From: davemention at icloud.com (David Mention) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 20:28:18 -0400 Subject: [pct-l] Oregon Day Hike In-Reply-To: <3BB92FDB-ECBF-4865-9194-9AA442DD9F58@gmail.com> References: <3BB92FDB-ECBF-4865-9194-9AA442DD9F58@gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe there is a sign on the Santiam pass. There is a parking lot and trailhead on the North side of the road that should be well signed. It?s just East of the road that heads south to the ski area. On the Makenzie pass, the trail is just west of the summit. The summit is marked by the Dee Wright Observatory, and the observatory is less than a mile East of the trail. Have fun, carry water! > On Jul 24, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Julia Gorman wrote: > > I was planning to do a 17 mile day hike that goes in both section E and F of Oregon. I wanted to start north at Hwy 20 (Santiam Pass) and then head south to the the connection at Hwy 242 (Mackenzie Pass) I was going to have a friend pick me up. > > I was wondering if anyone knew those places and could give me directions to the trailhead so I wouldn't miss it and I could tell my friend where to meet me. I know how to get to the highways just not where the trail heads are located. > > Julia Gorman > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From davefajer at gmail.com Sun Jul 24 20:43:02 2016 From: davefajer at gmail.com (Dave Fajer) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 18:43:02 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Oregon Day Hike In-Reply-To: <3BB92FDB-ECBF-4865-9194-9AA442DD9F58@gmail.com> References: <3BB92FDB-ECBF-4865-9194-9AA442DD9F58@gmail.com> Message-ID: Load Halfmile PCT App on phone and have it on while driving. When miles from PCT gets to zero...you are there......there are highway signs also. Coastal On Jul 24, 2016 5:22 PM, "Julia Gorman" wrote: > I was planning to do a 17 mile day hike that goes in both section E and F > of Oregon. I wanted to start north at Hwy 20 (Santiam Pass) and then head > south to the the connection at Hwy 242 (Mackenzie Pass) I was going to have > a friend pick me up. > > I was wondering if anyone knew those places and could give me directions > to the trailhead so I wouldn't miss it and I could tell my friend where to > meet me. I know how to get to the highways just not where the trail heads > are located. > > Julia Gorman > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From luckymanhikes at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 11:39:10 2016 From: luckymanhikes at gmail.com (Lucky Man) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:39:10 -0400 Subject: [pct-l] Goat Rocks area - snow? In-Reply-To: <9fe83152-36d9-2904-2e66-4e265a57850b@gmail.com> References: <9fe83152-36d9-2904-2e66-4e265a57850b@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am at white pass and just passed through the beautiful Goat Rocks. There was snow in multiple places, but I did ok without microspikes, crampons or ice ax. On Friday, July 22, 2016, Jeffrey Olson wrote: > I'm hiking through the Goat Rocks area and am wondering if there is any > snow left - especially the part between elk pass and the packwood glacier. > > Thanks... > > Jeff > > Laramie, WY > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From encinomw at yahoo.com Mon Jul 25 15:09:46 2016 From: encinomw at yahoo.com (Mike Welch) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 20:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [pct-l] Water/Joshua Tree Spring References: <1852688696.5271450.1469477386084.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1852688696.5271450.1469477386084.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I was hoping to begin a final section hike at Walker Pass going to Mt. Whitney in early September. It will complete the PCT for me after 10 years of section hiking. I see from the water report that there is no water at Joshua Tree Spring (trough dry). It would be critical to have water here if I'm to start at Walker Pass and head North. Has anyone been thru there lately? Is Joshua Spring truly dry? What have people been doing for water? Any information would be greatly appreciated. mountain mike From kf6rcp at gmail.com Thu Jul 28 08:00:15 2016 From: kf6rcp at gmail.com (kf6rcp .) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 06:00:15 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Section HIke Message-ID: I had a question, I plan to do a section hike from I-80 to HWY 70. This will be my first hike on the PCT. Does anyone know what permits I will need if ever? *Mike Sangria* *Amateur Radio Station "AG6IP, ZC4MIS, 5B/AG6IP, HL9MS, HL2/KF6RCP, HL2ZJK, KF6RCP"* From brick at brickrobbins.com Thu Jul 28 12:17:39 2016 From: brick at brickrobbins.com (Brick Robbins) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 10:17:39 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Section HIke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe that for the section Interstate-80 to Belden at Hwy 70 (mile 1160 to 1300) you should not need anything except a California Fire Permit if you are going to use a stove. http://www.preventwildfireca.org/Campfire-Permit/ Have fun On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 6:00 AM, kf6rcp . wrote: > I had a question, I plan to do a section hike from I-80 to HWY 70. This > will be my first hike on the PCT. Does anyone know what permits I will > need if ever? > > > > *Mike Sangria* > *Amateur Radio Station "AG6IP, ZC4MIS, 5B/AG6IP, HL9MS, HL2/KF6RCP, HL2ZJK, > KF6RCP"* > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From HStroh at sjmslaw.com Thu Jul 28 12:25:46 2016 From: HStroh at sjmslaw.com (Herb Stroh) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 17:25:46 +0000 Subject: [pct-l] Section HIke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I hiked that section last year. There was no permit requirements between Desolation Wilderness (south of 80) and Lassen (north of Chester) other than, as Brick noted, a fire permit (available online). Herb -----Original Message----- From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Brick Robbins Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:18 AM To: kf6rcp . Cc: PCT Subject: Re: [pct-l] Section HIke I believe that for the section Interstate-80 to Belden at Hwy 70 (mile 1160 to 1300) you should not need anything except a California Fire Permit if you are going to use a stove. http://cp.mcafee.com/d/2DRPos82hJ5xMQszAT4T6jtPqqatQQXICzBYSCyDtdeXzy9Jd5eXXypEVupdFEFTjjpo7e6Ot9NGj1l15mx-CendQ4lq7WoVsSepZDjhOevW_8IcecnpWZOWqrZ-j76zBBZV7BHEShhlKYDOEuvkzaT0QSyrvdTVZ5YQsFILKe6zATsS02mzVDUjcifgtB7XrM07188eOzVsbv5mkYdHmCnfbAaJMJZ0kgSNmRmUjymU6CS3hOYYr1vF6y0QJHmCnfdbFEw6fJelo6y0bxFnPqr1K-AWHt-_ Have fun On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 6:00 AM, kf6rcp . wrote: > I had a question, I plan to do a section hike from I-80 to HWY 70. > This will be my first hike on the PCT. Does anyone know what > permits I will need if ever? > > > > *Mike Sangria* > *Amateur Radio Station "AG6IP, ZC4MIS, 5B/AG6IP, HL9MS, HL2/KF6RCP, > HL2ZJK, > KF6RCP"* From edjarrett at msn.com Fri Jul 29 18:32:58 2016 From: edjarrett at msn.com (Ed Jarrett) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 16:32:58 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Ride from Fresno to VVR Message-ID: I got off the trail yesterday at VVR and my wife brought me to Fresno for a couple of nights. But the road out to VVR terrified her, and she cannot take me back. I have left a message with VVR about their shuttle service but have not heard back yet. By any chance, is there anyone going out to VVR tomorrow (July 30) or the next day? If so, could I get a ride? I could meet you just about anywhere short of that 20 mile one lane road that leads to the resort. I am quite willing to pay a considerable sum to make it back out there so I can finish my hike. Ed Jarrett (Eeyore)Web site: http://aclayjar.netTwitter: https://twitter.com/EdJarrett53 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ed.jarrett.71 From jon.pearson1958 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 30 09:54:37 2016 From: jon.pearson1958 at yahoo.com (Pearson Jonathan) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 15:54:37 +0100 Subject: [pct-l] trekking brolly Message-ID: As I am very light skinned I will need to take particular care with the sun. I was thinking of taking a Brolly, and wondered what people,s experience was with them. Would you recommend these for the PCT? Mayo From bwatt at 1fifoto.com Sat Jul 30 10:10:21 2016 From: bwatt at 1fifoto.com (Brian Watt) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 10:10:21 -0500 Subject: [pct-l] trekking brolly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8251e4d2-e5d5-5b48-664a-b71ff09041c3@1fifoto.com> Mayo, It took me a minute to decode "brolly" [ brolly. noun. An umbrella ?Thoroughly British, with some US use (1870s+ British schools) The Dictionary of American Slang]. During my 2014 PCT thru-hike I carried a GoLite Chrome Dome Trekking Umbrella, but the company has unfortunately gone out of business, but a similar umbrella can be found at several vendors. For example, http://gossamergear.com/chrome-umbrella.html Bri/"Tartan" From lucecruz13 at gmail.com Sat Jul 30 12:08:12 2016 From: lucecruz13 at gmail.com (Luce Cruz) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 10:08:12 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] trekking brolly In-Reply-To: <8251e4d2-e5d5-5b48-664a-b71ff09041c3@1fifoto.com> References: <8251e4d2-e5d5-5b48-664a-b71ff09041c3@1fifoto.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Brian Watt wrote: > During my 2014 PCT thru-hike I carried a GoLite Chrome Dome Trekking > Umbrella, but the company has unfortunately gone out of business, > GoLite is back, kinda. The "chrome dome" style umbrella is available in the "Accessories" section. http://mytrailco.com/ -- Luce Cruz From michaeljirving at gmail.com Sat Jul 30 14:22:54 2016 From: michaeljirving at gmail.com (Mike Gmail) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 12:22:54 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] trekking brolly In-Reply-To: References: <8251e4d2-e5d5-5b48-664a-b71ff09041c3@1fifoto.com> Message-ID: <191604BF-65F4-4DC0-8EFC-3A8F3666BDB7@gmail.com> Also available at GossamerGear.com -GoalTech > On Jul 30, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Luce Cruz wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Brian Watt wrote: >> >> During my 2014 PCT thru-hike I carried a GoLite Chrome Dome Trekking >> Umbrella, but the company has unfortunately gone out of business, > > GoLite is back, kinda. The "chrome dome" style umbrella is available in the > "Accessories" section. > > http://mytrailco.com/ > > -- > Luce Cruz > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. From baidarker at gmail.com Sat Jul 30 15:07:28 2016 From: baidarker at gmail.com (Scott Williams) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 13:07:28 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] trekking brolly In-Reply-To: <191604BF-65F4-4DC0-8EFC-3A8F3666BDB7@gmail.com> References: <8251e4d2-e5d5-5b48-664a-b71ff09041c3@1fifoto.com> <191604BF-65F4-4DC0-8EFC-3A8F3666BDB7@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've carried a Chrome Dome on all 3 thru hikes, the Camino in Spain and this summer in Madagascar and wouldn't leave home without it. Great for the rain of course, but even better for the sun in the deserts of SOCAL and New Mexico. I'll be using it for a dugout canoe trip on the canals of eastern Madagascar tomorrow morning for the sun. You can get the exact same umbrella from Gossamer Gear, they just don't call it the Chrome Dome anymore. The main thing is reflective mylar top and black underside. Tuck the shaft under your chest strap, and in winds secure the bulb on the bottom with a small carabiner through the chord loop and to you hip belt. Have a wonderful hike! Shroomer On Jul 30, 2016 9:23 PM, "Mike Gmail" wrote: > Also available at GossamerGear.com > > -GoalTech > > > On Jul 30, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Luce Cruz wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Brian Watt wrote: > >> > >> During my 2014 PCT thru-hike I carried a GoLite Chrome Dome Trekking > >> Umbrella, but the company has unfortunately gone out of business, > > > > GoLite is back, kinda. The "chrome dome" style umbrella is available in > the > > "Accessories" section. > > > > http://mytrailco.com/ > > > > -- > > Luce Cruz > > _______________________________________________ > > Pct-L mailing list > > Pct-L at backcountry.net > > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > > > List Archives: > > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > _______________________________________________ > Pct-L mailing list > Pct-L at backcountry.net > To unsubscribe, or change options visit: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l > > List Archives: > http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/ > All content is copyrighted by the respective authors. > Reproduction is prohibited without express permission. > From mmtnsong at telus.net Sat Jul 30 19:37:36 2016 From: mmtnsong at telus.net (Michael Murray) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 17:37:36 -0700 Subject: [pct-l] Wildland fire prompts closure of PCT at Crater Lake National Park Message-ID: <006e01d1eac3$bd0f8bd0$372ea370$@telus.net> PCT Hikers must use Dutton Creek Trail - Rim Trail as an alternate route. Of course, this is the typical detour used for viewing the incredible lake and caldera. Likely an escaped campfire. http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/34626255-75/wildland-fire-prompts-clo sure-of-pacific-crest-trail-at-crater-lake-national-park.html.csp