[pct-l] Backpacks, which size is best?
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Thu Jan 21 13:20:44 CST 2016
There is another concept in packing:
Small packs encourage a hiker to take only the absolute necessities.Large packs encourage the hiker to take more than he really needs.
I think the first thought should be what gear do you feel you need basedupon the time of year and weather and whether or not you're hiking as an ultra-light, or light weight, or moderate, or... gasp ... old school. Readingwhat others have done via blogs, etc, is the first step to visualizing what you need.But the best method is experience. Without backpacking experience of some kind,you have little idea of what works and what doesn't . Asking what others are doingis only a start.
You commonly hear people say that they reduced pack weight by cutting offexcess strap materials, cutting toothbrush handles, dehydrating toothpaste intolittle dots. And thats all fine and dandy. But if you're already overweight in body mass by 30 pounds, you can forget all that other stuff and lose weight. Losing30 pounds in body weight (or whatever excess poundage you have) is far morepractical that attempting to hike "ultra-light" and find yourself in need of gear atcritical moments. And losing weight isn't as hard as it seems. I highly recommenda free app called "MyFitnessPal." Look into it. Dieters who use such documentationof their daily calories, etc, have been proven to be more successful.
Whatever you do, don't do as one "expert" bonehead I met did. He boastedof never using a water filter nor carrying one. He admitted he had chronic parasiteproblems (giardia, I think). And there he was. Encouraging others to be chronicallysick like himself. Yeah. Being chronically sick was better than packing a water filter.And he was the "expert" giving lectures for hiking the AT trail back east.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: New monument ? (Rob Langsdorf)
2. Re: New monument ? (Rob Langsdorf)
3. Backpack (Mike Garland)
4. Backpack (Dan C. aka Thumper)
5. Re: Backpack (Drew Smith)
6. Re: Big Bear to Acton Section Hike (Nobohiker)
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:12:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: Rob Langsdorf <sdscpcts at yahoo.com>
To: Stephen Clark <rowriver at gmail.com>, Brian Watt <bwatt at 1fifoto.com>
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] New monument ?
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I remember attending the dedication ceremony for the monument in 1988. Hard to believe it has been so many years.
? ? ? Mataguay Connector Rob
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Thanks for sharing this link Brian... The Southern Terminus Monument was
seriously in bad shape...
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Brian Watt <bwatt at 1fifoto.com> wrote:
> Brian,
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> See:
> http://www.pcta.org/2016/a-new-monument-at-the-southern-terminus-36888/
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> Bri/Tartan
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I remember attending the dedication ceremony for the monument in 1988. Hard to believe it has been so many years.
? ? ? Mataguay Connector Rob
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Thanks for sharing this link Brian... The Southern Terminus Monument was
seriously in bad shape...
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> Brian,
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> See:
> http://www.pcta.org/2016/a-new-monument-at-the-southern-terminus-36888/
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:50:56 -0600
From: Mike Garland <mikegarland1957 at icloud.com>
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Subject: [pct-l] Backpack
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What size backpacks is the average pack in ltrs.
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 19:28:37 -0800
From: "Dan C. aka Thumper" <dofdear at cox.net>
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Okay Mike but first you'd need to define what 'average' means. There are literally hundreds of different packs used on the PCT. Probably the best suggestion is to select your pack after you've selected most of your gear thereby fitting the pack to you and your stuff.
Thumper
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 03:53:14 +0000
From: Drew Smith <jdrewsmith at gmail.com>
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I think 50-60 L is typical. This is actually a bit more volume than you
usually need, but there are a few stretches of long water or food carries.
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> What size backpacks is the average pack in ltrs.
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:45:42 -0800
From: Nobohiker <nobohiker at gmail.com>
To: Dennis Washer <africa2008 at aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] Big Bear to Acton Section Hike
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Dennis,
When I ended my section hike in Big Bear, I picked up a one way rental for a reasonable rate at the Hertz Airport location. Note that rental car companies increased their rates for one way rentals lately, so this might be on the expensive side.
Regarding Acton, I just ended a section hike in November there and took an Uber back to my car. For you, I recommend to depart from Burbank Airport instead of ONT since it is way closer and should be a ~$40 ride. Note that there is no cell coverage down in the canyon, place your call ~2 Miles ahead and then walk down.
What also worked for me in the past:
- Airport shuttle (be prepared for strange looks when you have yourself dropped off in the middle of nowhere)
- hired a driver on one of these mini-job websites
- Lyft
- received AMAZING help from local trail angel
Note that these are not the cheapest options, but the fastest since my goal is to section hike the trail with the least amount of vacation days ;-)
Happy Trails!
Section Hiker Rick
> On Jan 17, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Dennis Washer <africa2008 at aol.com> wrote:
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> I originally posted a note in Sept with plans to go from Ziggy and Bear's place to Acton in May, but the ongoing fire closure north of I-10 forces a change of plans. I received a response from Johanna, Angelica, and van Velze, and Ben. So now the dates and places have changed: fly into Ontario April 27, start hiking from Big Bear trail crossing, go to Acton KOA, and fly out of Ontario on May 14.
> Any suggestions including rent a car, to getting to and from trail? Ben, the Google maps didn't offer a lot of help for public transport.
> Thanks for any help!
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