[pct-l] Flip-Flop Start

Scott Diamond scott.diamond.mail at gmail.com
Fri Jan 15 14:51:10 CST 2016


And thanks to all who have provided input on this question. Not as simple
as I had hoped but I'll watch the conditions over the next few months.
Thanks!

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Andrea Dinsmore <
andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com> wrote:

> Dan.....thank you for adding what I forgot to include. I usually add that
> the sensors are not right on the trail and not at the highest places you
> will be hiking. My main thought was to watch the melt off rate which will
> give a good idea of how each area is doing. I did not know about the
> overlays. Does the Postholer overlays work on a home computer to follow the
> melt off with ?
>
> Andrea
> On Jan 15, 2016 11:36 AM, "Dan C. aka Thumper" <dofdear at cox.net> wrote:
>
> I've written on the subject of SNOTEL sites vs postholer.com map overlays.
> SNOTEL sites read only the immediate area around the sensor.  Read this
> area in feet or inches depending on the sensor.  The postholer map actually
> gets a daily update from NOAA and overlays snow data onto the map.  Let me
> tell of 2 examples;
>
> 1.  On 30 June 2010 the SNOTEL site at Harts Pass indicated 0" of snow yet
> there was 2 feet of snow on the area surrounding the site including the
> trail and Harts parking area.  Even the outhouses were covered and not dug
> out.  The sensor is in a clearing in full view of the daily sun.
>
> 2.  Using the postholer.com map overlays on a 27 - 29 June 2015 hike
> between Rainy and Harts Pass, there was snow found exactly where the map
> overlay indicated there would be snow and in the correct depth range.
>
> While a sample of this limited scope might be discounted, understanding the
> technology GPS  NOAA uses to measure snow depth convinced me that it is a
> better measure of the conditions a hiker will encounter along the trail.
> This is a powerful planning tool with outstanding implementation by
> postholer  (Scott P).  Additionally, I believe these overlays are available
> for all the maps posted on this site.
>
> Go to: http://www.postholer.com/google-maps
> Select your map
> Select your desired Map Skin, what I call a map overlay.
>
> Thumper
>
>
> Andrea wrote:
>
> As it gets closer to your preferred start date start watching the various
> Snotel sites under snow depth charts for the mountain passes you could flip
> to. Watch the melt off rate. The whole west coast in being dumped on right
> now. Spring melt may be slow or fast. Do your homework before you make any
> flip decision.
>
> PCT MOM
> Andrea Dinsmore
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