[pct-l] Flip-Flop Start

Andrea Dinsmore andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com
Thu Jan 14 22:33:29 CST 2016


As it gets closer to your preferred start date start watching the various
Snotel sites under snow depth charts for the mountain passes you could flip
to. Watch the melt off rate. The whole west coast in being dumped on right
now. Spring melt may be slow or fast. Do your homework before you make any
flip decision.

PCT MOM
Andrea Dinsmore
On Jan 14, 2016 8:21 PM, "Scott Williams" <baidarker at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's OK to flip flop in the desert sections in April during a high snow
> year, if that's what it turns out to be.  But in 2010, a high snow year, I
> had to leave trail and drive north to Bellingham in May.  I stopped in at
> Steven's Pass and the snow was still 5 or 6 feet deep.  Checked out the
> trails crossing the highway near Shasta and the snow was deep as it also
> was at Donner Pass at Tahoe.  Those who flipped up to Lassen and Shasta
> that year had no better luck with snow than those of us who just headed
> into the Sierra.  And several I know turned around after 50 miles of being
> lost south of Shasta in Deep snow and a terrible tangle of blow down.  I
> ended up going in the first week in June out of Lone Pine and we lived on
> snow for 5 weeks and had the hike of our lives.  It was the most wonderful
> part of the whole hike.  5 of us banded together and promised to stay
> together till Sonora Pass and we all loved what we went through.  Hard,
> exciting and totally gorgeous!  But there was nothing to be gained by
> flipping north of Tahoe that year as the snows extended from the Sierra to
> Canada.   So, really check out the snow depth up north.  You're still in
> big mountains and relatively high elevations all the way, except for
> Cascade Locks.
>
> Shroomer
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM, <TBrokaw at montmush.com> wrote:
>
> > Great plan.  I think more of us should do flip-flops or section hiking.
> > This would thin out the crowd on the trail.  I'm doing this myself.
> > I'll let others comment on ideal start point.  Good luck!
> >
> > Tom Brokaw
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> >
> > From:   Scott Diamond <scott.diamond.mail at gmail.com>
> > To:     Pct Mailing List <pct-l at backcountry.net>,
> > Date:   01/14/2016 08:26 AM
> > Subject:        [pct-l] Flip-Flop Start
> > Sent by:        Pct-L <pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net>
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm excited about the snow we have this yea.r I think it will make the
> PCT
> > more of an adventure. But I was thinking I'd start mid-April and that may
> > necessitate a flip-flop. My next thought  was that maybe I should just
> > start off with a flip-flop? That is start my hiking somewhere north of
> > Lake
> > Tahoe.  My thought was that doing so I could avoid some of the large pack
> > leaving from the Mexican border and have a better overall hiking
> > experience.
> >
> > So I have two questions for the wisdom of the list:
> >
> >    - If I start North of Tahoe in Mid-April where would be a good place
> to
> >    start?
> >    - I don't want to hike in 110 degree desert heat so when is the latest
> >    folks would recommend for flipping back to the border?
> >
> > Maybe this plan isn't practical at all?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> >        -Scott
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