[pct-l] First Post

Wed Feb 3 12:49:17 CST 2016

Will definitely do them in total one way or the other but not sliding down the sides:) 

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> On Feb 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Pete,
> 
> Perfect plan.  We had our first airlift that year from Mt. San Jacinto and the SAR guys asked those of us waiting in Idyllwild, not to go in as we were putting them in danger also.  13 of us jumped forward to Agua Dulce and Donna Saufley was kind enough to open up early for us.  Bless you Donna dear!  We then hiked the Mojave and Tehachapis and hitched and bussed back to the San Jacintos several weeks later.  Our issue in 2010 was no spring that year.  Very little had melted out during the several weeks away, so we jumped in and dealt with some squirly ice and snow, had no idea where we were on Fuller Ridge as GPS was relatively rare on trail at that time, but had some marvelous mountain adventures.  Whatever you do, I highly recommend against walking around the mountains.  A number of folks did this and missed some of the most beautiful parts of SoCal.  Come back later and hike those places if you jump forward.  They're worth it.
> 
> Have a marvelous summer!
> 
> Shroomer
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:08 AM, <SPETE672 at aol.com> wrote:
>> Schroomer,
>>  
>> Thanks for the additional input. We are admittedly concerned with the potential of lots of snow and ice plus cold in Socal...especially in light of a recent fall near Mt Baldy that ended well in that he was bunged up bad but survived. Apparently close to where that happened, another hike fell and died the day before and another the day after. So as you say, we are prepared to wait it out or flip if needed. The same thing will apply in Sierras...if we don't feel comfortable after Ned's course, then we flip those as well. We are fortunate to not have a hard fixed schedule so do whatever as needed on waiting etc
>>  
>> Pete Sandel
>> President
>> YNF Consulting LLC
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>>  
>> In a message dated 2/3/2016 9:53:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, baidarker at gmail.com writes:
>> As Pete notes above, in a high snow year the serious snow may begin as early as the desert in the San Jacintos and continue through all the higher southern mountains, long before coming to the High Sierra.  If you start early in this El Nino year, which so far has the Sierra snow pack above average (the skiing has been wonderful for the first time in 4 years) plan to be flexible.  Either wait it out and let it melt out, or be OK with jumping forward around some of the mountains and coming back to hike them later.  March 7th is a very early start, even in a low snow year so plan for real cold in the deserts.  The coldest sections we had in 2010 were in the deserts and I was snowed on 3 times in the deserts.  The High Sierra was over 4 weeks of living on snow most of the time.  It was the best part of any hiking adventure any of us had ever had, but also the hardest hiking we'd ever done.     
>> 
>> On the CDT in 2012, we started very early for that hike, April 11th, and killed time by hiking slowly across NM, getting off to come to the PCT Kick Off, and generally waited for the snow in the San Juans to melt out.  We hit it just right and by starting early were ahead of the monsoons.  However, several people 1 to 2 weeks ahead of us had to bail out and backtrack    due to heavy storms still pounding those mountains.  So if you start early, plan to be flexible.  But realize, that March 7th is really, really early if it's a normal to high snow year.
>> 
>> Shroomer
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:06 AM, Pete Sandel <spete672 at aol.com> wrote:
>>> My fiancé and I are leaving March 7 with similar plans to to go slow and easy . We are doing a 5 day enroute snow course starting past Kennedy Meadows with Ned Tibbits. You can get info on his site at mountain education. I think it looks as though we will get so now and ice as well through SoCal so just winging it with crampons and whippet if needed. Lots of good info on Facebook ...The Pacific Crest Trail Class of 2016 and the PCT Class of 2016,!regarding your question . PCTA permits are,open now as,well,so you might want to get that done.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete Sandel
>>> YNF Consulting , LLC
>>> Cell- 432.413.9384
>>> 
>>> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Gordon <gwmori at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Additional comment below
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>>> >> On Jan 31, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Gordon Mori <gwmori at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I have been reading the PCT books which I understand were written several years ago.  They seem to suggest the popular starting time for a hike-thru S to N to be in late April or early May.  Although we have had quite a bit of precipitation this winter,  with the draught over the past few years I wondered if it possible to start earlier say in March?  I am 57 years old and was hoping to take a more leisurely 5-6 months for the trek and wanted to avoid going into the fall.  Is this a bad idea to try to start earlier? It seems the problem is the snow in the Sierras. Can one backpack in the snow with the proper gear and training?
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >>
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