[pct-l] First Post

Wed Feb 3 10:08:59 CST 2016

Schroomer, 

Thanks for the additional input. We are admittedly concerned with the  
potential of lots of snow and ice plus cold in Socal...especially in light of a  
recent fall near Mt Baldy that ended well in that he was bunged up bad but  
survived. Apparently close to where that happened, another hike fell  and 
died the day before and another the day after. So as you say, we  are 
prepared to wait it out or flip if needed. The same thing will apply in  
Sierras...if we don't feel comfortable after Ned's course, then we flip those as  
well. We are fortunate to not have a hard fixed schedule so do whatever as  
needed on waiting etc

Pete  Sandel
President
YNF Consulting LLC
cell: 432.413.9384  

In a message dated 2/3/2016 9:53:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
baidarker at gmail.com writes:

As Pete notes above, in a high snow year the serious snow may  begin as 
early as the desert in the San Jacintos and continue through all the  higher 
southern mountains, long before coming to the High Sierra.  If you  start 
early in this El Nino year, which so far has the Sierra snow pack above  average 
(the skiing has been wonderful for the first time in 4 years) plan to  be 
flexible.  Either wait it out and let it melt out, or be OK with  jumping 
forward around some of the mountains and coming back to hike them  later.  
March 7th is a very early start, even in a low snow year so plan  for real cold 
in the deserts.  The coldest sections we had in 2010 were  in the deserts 
and I was snowed on 3 times in the deserts.  The High  Sierra was over 4 weeks 
of living on snow most of the time.  It was the  best part of any hiking 
adventure any of us had ever had, but also the hardest  hiking we'd ever done. 

On the CDT in 2012, we started very early for that hike, April 11th, and  
killed time by hiking slowly across NM, getting off to come to the PCT Kick  
Off, and generally waited for the snow in the San Juans to melt out.  We  
hit it just right and by starting early were ahead of the monsoons.   However, 
several people 1 to 2 weeks ahead of us had to bail out and backtrack  due 
to heavy storms still pounding those mountains.  So if you start  early, 
plan to be flexible.  But realize, that March 7th is really,  really early if 
it's a normal to high snow year.

Shroomer

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:06 AM, Pete Sandel <_spete672 at aol.com_ 
(mailto:spete672 at aol.com) > wrote:

My  fiancé and I are leaving March 7 with similar plans to to go slow and 
easy .  We are doing a 5 day enroute snow course starting past Kennedy 
Meadows with  Ned Tibbits. You can get info on his site at mountain education. I 
think it  looks as though we will get so now and ice as well through SoCal so 
just  winging it with crampons and whippet if needed. Lots of good info on  
Facebook ...The Pacific Crest Trail Class of 2016 and the PCT Class of  
2016,!regarding your question . PCTA permits are,open now as,well,so you  might 
want to get that done.

Pete Sandel
YNF Consulting , LLC
Cell- _432.413.9384_ (tel:432.413.9384) 

> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Gordon <_gwmori at hotmail.com_ 
(mailto:gwmori at hotmail.com) >  wrote:
>
> Additional comment below
>
> Sent from my  iPhone
>
>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Gordon Mori <_gwmori at hotmail.com_ 
(mailto:gwmori at hotmail.com) >  wrote:
>>
>> I have been reading the PCT books which I  understand were written 
several years ago.  They seem to suggest the  popular starting time for a 
hike-thru S to N to be in late April or early  May.  Although we have had quite a 
bit of precipitation this  winter,  with the draught over the past few years 
I wondered if it  possible to start earlier say in March?  I am 57 years old 
and was  hoping to take a more leisurely 5-6 months for the trek and wanted 
to avoid  going into the fall.  Is this a bad idea to try to start earlier? 
It  seems the problem is the snow in the Sierras. Can one backpack in the 
snow  with the proper gear and training?
>>
>>  Regards
>>
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