[pct-l] Rattle Snakes on the trail...dangers & misconceptions
Reinhold Metzger
reinholdmetzger at cox.net
Sun Apr 17 16:54:15 CDT 2016
Hey Jeff,
Thanks for your kind words and thanks to you also for your service to
your country.
We need more guys like you.
Enjoy your PCT hike and, like I said, don't fear the bears and the
snakes, just be
aware that they are there and take the proper precautions.
JMT Reinhold
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On 4/16/2016 6:32 PM, Jeff Nys wrote:
>
> Mr. Metzger, first of all thank you for your service to our country.
> From one veteran to another, than you for this posting as i will heed
> your warnings about snakes and bears on my PCT thru hike next year. It
> was a very informative posting and a learning experience for us new
> hikers. Jeff Nys
>
> On Apr 16, 2016 2:12 PM, "Reinhold Metzger" <reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> <mailto:reinholdmetzger at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Stephan wrote:...I read that the desert will be snake infested if
> it gets hotter.
> Day-late wrote:...Seriously, snakes will have zero impact on your
> hiking.
> ...............................
>
> Stephan,
> The list is a great place for information on hiking the PCT.
> However, some information needs to be treated with a grain of salt.
>
> I have hiked the Sierra, Grand Canyon and desert regions for 52
> years and had
> my share of encounters with bears & snakes.
>
> Just because somebody has not seen a bear or snake does not mean
> they are
> not there or are not a potential risk and should be ignored.
>
> THEY ARE THERE...you don't need to fear them, but be aware of them.
>
> Read my below 2010 post on snakes & bears "und gute reise".
>
> BTW...Switchback (the Trail Pirate) is a far greater risk to
> hikers than bears or
> snakes.
> He will ambush & plunder innocent hikers and leave them with
> nothing but
> their speedos.
> Switchback is what you really should be concerned about.
>
> JMT Reinhold
>
>
> [pct-l] Rattle Snakes on the trail...dangers & misconceptions
>
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> /Tue Mar 30 15:23:24 CDT 2010/
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>
> Why is it that some hikers seem to be concerned about bears yet brush
> "Rattle Snakes" aside with comments like:
> "They are not a problem.....I have not seen a single one on my
> whole hike".
> "Don't mess with them and they will not mess with you".
> "The ones that get bitten are usually intoxicated males messing
> with them".
> "Just keep your eyes and ears open and you will not have any problem".
> "Stay away from them and even if you do get bitten, their bites are
> hardly ever life threatening".
>
> Although there is some truth to the above statements, it is not as
> simple as that.
> The reality is that in real life there are far more encounters and
> fatalities from snake encounters than from bear encounters and the
> fatalities ratio is so low only because the vast majority of snake
> bites
> happen close to civilization
> and the victim is able to receive emergency medical care within hours.
> That ratio will change drastically if the victim is in the wilderness
> and emergency medical treatment is delayed.
>
> Bear encounters just make bigger headlines and seem more dramatic.
> Arguments like...."Keep your eyes and ears open and you will have no
> problem".....just don't make sense.
> It is true, snakes will not chase you to bite you, but they will
> bite if
> you get to close and they feel threatened.
> The problem is snakes do not stand out like bears or elephants,
> are well
> camouflaged, blend in with the desert environment and are therefore
> easily overlooked.
>
> Oooohhhh....yes....the rattle is supposed to alert you.
> But, what if you are having a conversation with your trail buddy,
> singing, listening to your i-pod, chatting on your c-phone, are
> hard on
> hearing or don't have your hearing aid turned up loud enough?
> That is "MY" problem....I can't hear them....to many bazooka rounds in
> Vietnam.
> Hikers are known to engage in any or all of the above.
> Besides, hikers don't always have their eyes focused on the
> trail...they
> look around at the scenery.
> Especially if they have Hiker Babes with shapely legs, in front of
> them.
> That is another one of my problems.
> I have hiked the Grand Canyon extensively, probably more
> extensive than
> the Sierra, for 30+ years....every trail in the canyon......some
> of them
> many times, did the "Rim- Rim" in one day 3 times, the "Rim-Rim-Rim"
> in one day 2 times and have seen my share of rattlers.
> I have far greater respect for the dangers from a rattler than the
> dangers from bears.
> I can usually minimize the risk from bears with proper precaution, but
> there is not a lot I can do to eliminate the risk from rattlers except
> scrutinize the trail carefully every step of the way, or wear
> "snakeguardz".
> Hikers are not known for doing either.
>
> So, my friends, hiking through the desert is like rolling the dice.
> If you'r lucky you will not see any, or only see snake eyes.
> But, if you're unlucky you may see "snake fangs" buried in your leg.
> If that happens, the first aid instructions say,...stay calm, sit down
> and keep the bite area even with the heart, seek medical help, walk
> slowly if you must walk.
> Did you say that will be very difficult if you are all alone, in the
> wilderness, a long way from civilization???
> I agree, that is why I always say "Snake Bite First Aid Instructions"
> are written for city dwellers, not backpackers.
>
> To the "Thru-hiker" I will say, if you respect the danger from bears,
> you should respect the danger from snakes.
>
> I fully expect to get slammed again, like in the past, for doing
> nothing
> but scaring the hikers.
> But that's OK, I have been under fire before,...the real fire that
> comes
> from the barrel of a gun.
> For more snake encounters see my 5-16-2008 post below.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> ------------------------------------------------
> Reinhold Metzger wrote:
> Watch out for them in the desert.......they are out there. I have
> hiked the Grand Canyon extensively and encountered my share of
> them...luckily only close encounters. Threw my dish water on one
> of them without realizing it.....stepped on one in Shinumo Creek
> Canyon. I think he was crawling of the trail, when I stepped on
> his tail end...the front of his body was in a bush, so he could
> not whip around. Lucky me....he probably would have given me a
> double dose. We were 2-3 days from the trail head and it could
> have become life threatening. I know, I know......snake bites are
> only very rarely life threatening and all I'm doing is scare the
> hikers unnecessarily. But, that is only because 99% of snake bite
> victims get medical treatment within a few hours. It is a whole
> different ball game if you have to hike 2-3 days or wait 3-4 days
> or more for medical treatment...the odds change substantially and
> can cause tremendous, sometimes permanent, tissue damage or can
> become even potentially life threatening. It's not a scare
> tactic.......that is just the way it is. I AM less concerned
> about the bears in the Sierra than about the snakes in the desert.
> Bears can usually be avoided with proper precaution.....it is much
> more difficult to protect against Rattle Snakes.........HIKE
> ON.....but be on the alert for Rattlers in the desert.
>
> JMT Reinhold
>
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