[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 100, Issue 5
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Cooking System and Fuel (Brick Robbins)
2. Re: Cooking System and Fuel (Roger Norton)
3. Umbrella or hat in SoCal? (Lucky Man)
4. Re: plantar fasciitis (Shaun Sexton)
5. Re: Cooking System and Fuel (Shaun Sexton)
6. Re: Cooking System and Fuel (Shaun Sexton)
7. Re: Umbrella or hat in SoCal? (Scott Williams)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:09:07 -0700
From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking System and Fuel
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2016-04-02 19:24 GMT-07:00 DayLate07 . <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>:
> Who only hikes 10 hours a day? Slacker /s
Assuming that one hikes at a casual 2.5mph, 10 hours a day is 25 miles.
Though I hit several 30+ days on my hike, and 1 50 mile day, I assume
that I was pretty unusual
If one totals all the breaks, I doubt many folks are actually walking
more than 10 hrs a day
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 13:31:36 +1100
From: Roger Norton <norts60 at hotmail.com>
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking System and Fuel
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I like to stop for a cup of coffee at breakfast , dinner and may have a cooked lunch( ie have my main meal then) and another coffee. 5 mins per boil, at least 3 boils a day. 15 mins per day. I did the AT in 159 days. Rough estimate 148 days(on trail) = about 37 hours of boiling time. That's nearly 4 days of hiking waiting for a slow stove to boil for me.
When I am tired , cold and wet and it is raining I dont want to be waiting for something hot. I get to camp , tent up , into sleeping bag, and get the jet boil going in the vestibule.
Taz
> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 09:33:03 -0700
> From: brick at brickrobbins.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking System and Fuel
>
> 2016-03-31 10:55 GMT-07:00 David Money Harris <David_Harris at hmc.edu>:
> > It cooks faster than anything else out there, and uses less fuel.
>
> I understand the value of using less fuel, but I keep hearing from
> friends about the benefit of the JetBoild being fast.
>
> Considering that a typical thru hiker is not going to be walking more
> than 10 hours, of the 16 hours of daylight, could someone tell me what
> exactly is the benefit of saving 5-10 minutes off cooking time for a
> really slow stove?
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 11:43:55 -0400
From: Lucky Man <luckymanhikes at gmail.com>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Umbrella or hat in SoCal?
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I have an 8-ounce Liteflex chrome hiking umbrella I got for the SoCal
section of the PCT (Campo to Walker Pass), which I start in mid-April. I
have read many positive reviews from hikers who have used this umbrella
here, but now I have also read some negative reviews with complaints that
it was often too windy in Southern California to use the umbrella. I also
have a Zpacks pointy hat that I wore along the Sierras section of the PCT
last summer; it provided decent protection from the sun and is the best of
many hiking hats I have used over the years. For those who have used the
umbrella in SoCal, would you recommend it or suggest the pointy hat
instead? What did you wear for sun protection when it was too windy to use
the umbrella?
Thanks
Lucky Man
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:18:41 -0800
From: "Shaun Sexton" <sesexton at gci.net>
To: "'Janet Grossman'" <janetgr at cableone.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] plantar fasciitis
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A nurse friend who hikes and runs marathons recommend John Vonhoff's "Fixing
Your Feet: injury prevention and treatments for ATHELETES" to me a year or
so ago. After reading a borrowed copy, I decided its value warranted
purchasing it and adding it my reference library. I find it helpful for
many conditions I encounter as I age reluctantly and not-so-gracefully.
After bouts of PF in both feet I went with custom orthotics 15 +/- years
ago. No recurrence of PF since. Wear one pair of them while hiking and
include a second in my bounce box as back-up and to help with switching
between trail runner and boots as needed. Wear a pair with any footwear, but
sandals. I don't go barefoot anymore even around the house and I use good
quality sandals with high arch support.
The aforesaid book by John Vonhoff is published by Wilderness Press . ISBN
-13 is 978-0-89997-638-9. Look for it at your local library!
Over.
sES
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Grossman
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 11:15 AM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] plantar fasciitis
Further proof that one size does not fit all: My physical therapist
discovered that I didn't actually have PF at all, despite a podiatrist
saying I did. I actually had a hip problem manifesting as heel pain.
We've been working on my hips and the foot pain is gone, except for having
recently broken the other foot.
Rock-Kicker
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 12:30:07 -0800
From: "Shaun Sexton" <sesexton at gci.net>
To: "'Drew Smith'" <jdrewsmith at gmail.com>, "'Brick Robbins'"
<brick at brickrobbins.com>
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking System and Fuel
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I have read cautions about using windscreens with canister stoves.
Reportedly, overheating of the canister while using a wind screen can lead
to unfavorable happenstance. Wondering if this is a valid concern as I have
not had any such problems (yet!). Anyone have personal experience(s) or
reliable data supporting use-vs. - non-use of windscreens with canister
stoves?
Thanks.
Over.
SES
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Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 5:10 AM
To: Brick Robbins
Cc: PCT
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking System and Fuel
"It goes to 11"
DS from mobile
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com> wrote:
> could someone tell me what
> exactly is the benefit of saving 5-10 minutes off cooking time for a
> really slow stove?
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 21:27:56 -0800
From: "Shaun Sexton" <sesexton at gci.net>
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking System and Fuel
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Sounds good to me.
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Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 6:25 PM
To: pct-l
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cooking System and Fuel
Who only hikes 10 hours a day? Slacker /s
But I will say that as autumn started hitting I really noticed the shorter
days cutting into my hiking time.
I use a slow cooking method where most of my food cooks in a cozy. Boil
water, dump into food and put in cozy, wait 20 to 30 minutes, eat.
During that 20 to 30 minutes I find things to keep me busy. Setting up camp
for the night, getting my maps ready for the next day, writing in my
journal, cleaning up, etc.
I'm usually asleep pretty shortly after eating - cause I tired, heck, I just
hiked more than 10 hours.
Day-Late
> 2016-03-31 10:55 GMT-07:00 David Money Harris <David_Harris at hmc.edu>:
> > It cooks faster than anything else out there, and uses less fuel.
>
> I understand the value of using less fuel, but I keep hearing from
> friends about the benefit of the JetBoild being fast.
>
> Considering that a typical thru hiker is not going to be walking more
> than 10 hours, of the 16 hours of daylight, could someone tell me what
> exactly is the benefit of saving 5-10 minutes off cooking time for a
> really slow stove?
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 07:01:20 -0700
From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
To: Lucky Man <luckymanhikes at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] Umbrella or hat in SoCal?
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I've used the umbrella on 3 US thru hikes and the Camino in Spain and I
don't set out without it. In real heat it provides a much cooler walking
shadow than a hat of any kind and I learned how to keep it up in high winds
just fine in most cases. In gusty wind with frequent directional changes,
I give up on it, but in very strong steady winds I've used it no
problem.
Connect a small caribiner to the loop at the bottom of the handle and clip
it off to your waist belt angling the umbrella left or right into the
wind. Use the cord lock to allow it to ride high or smashed down on your
head if need be in strong winds.
At 13,000 feet in the Colorado Rockies in a furious hailstorm, it was
plastered all around me as I ran for shelter down slope almost becoming
another piece of clothing. In light rains in WA and on the AT and Spain,
it was the first and quickest protection I had and was so pleasant to use.
There's a reason so many great hikers carry them. Some don't bring a
raincoat at all, just relying on the umbrella which is also part of many
people's sleeping systems.
Have a wonderful summer
Shroomer
On Apr 3, 2016 8:42 PM, "Lucky Man" <luckymanhikes at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have an 8-ounce Liteflex chrome hiking umbrella I got for the SoCal
> section of the PCT (Campo to Walker Pass), which I start in mid-April. I
> have read many positive reviews from hikers who have used this umbrella
> here, but now I have also read some negative reviews with complaints that
> it was often too windy in Southern California to use the umbrella. I also
> have a Zpacks pointy hat that I wore along the Sierras section of the PCT
> last summer; it provided decent protection from the sun and is the best of
> many hiking hats I have used over the years. For those who have used the
> umbrella in SoCal, would you recommend it or suggest the pointy hat
> instead? What did you wear for sun protection when it was too windy to use
> the umbrella?
> Thanks
> Lucky Man
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