[pct-l] Eating while backpacking...
marmot marmot
marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 4 16:37:39 CST 2015
Bonking in sports means running out of energy
Marmot
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> On Nov 4, 2015, at 11:16 AM, isabella at bendnet.com wrote:
>
> I love all the ideas I'm getting here. Thanks!
>
> I learned a big lesson this summer that might apply to someone else. "BARS" are very high glycemic. I would have an instant high (in past years) and then bonk hard. I "offed' the bars this year for tortillas, cheese, sausage, instant beans, more nuts and dried fruits, NO MORE BONKING and I could go longer between food and still feel good. And I wasn't quite so ravenous when I got to town.
>
> When I talked to others, I heard a number of other hikers who have similar experiences with bars at different levels of high/bonking but could totally related to what I was describing. It depends on how sugar sensitive you are.
>
> Mademoiselle
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> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of marmot marmot
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:51 AM
> To: Jim & Jane Moody
> Cc: Pct Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Eating while backpacking...
>
> Tahini,mixed with enough water to make it light and fluffy--usually 1/3 to 1/2 of the tahini amount. Keep stirring until it's white.
> •Add garlic/powder?fresh? Your choice Lots !!!!
> •salt
> •a lot of lemon juice either bottled or dried •I usually add citric acid. Gives it a tang sort of cheesy
> Now you have a high calorie high calcium spread or dip. I eat with corn taco shells I believe this may also be gluten free unless I don't understand some source
> I mix nuts(pecan,walnut and macadamia) with dried cherries, figs,dates ,nectarines ,apricots and mango. Then snack on this mix for breakfast and afternoon. I leave out stuff when I get tired of it and put it back when it sounds interesting again. Also I'll add cardamom or cinnamon or pumpkin pie spice if I want variety Cheap alternative to Lara Bars •make soups from veg soup base add dried organic veg and some sort of pasta like ingredients quinoa(must be rinsed)rice pasta ,whole wheat pasta buckwheat noodles •lumen food veg jerky ---snacks,lunch protein also put in soup Soup at night is great ,gets more liquid into me when I might not be hydrated enough. Also make spit pea,corn chowder,curried lentil soup --always throw in veg. Mixed,dried tomatoes,mushrooms Marmot Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:53 PM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> *Instant Refried beans or black bean ,Tabasco ,in pre cooked yellow or blue corn taco shells ,(Trader Joes has them organic)a little Brewers yeast ,topped with either shredded cabbage you brought from town(lasts many days)or sprouts you grew in ziplock hanging off back of your pack. Avocado that has been ripening in your pack. Easy yummy.
>> •Also I eat lots of macadamia nuts cause they can either sweet or
>> savory depending on what you combine with them ---very high in
>> calories. Trader Joes has them unsalted. •Instant tabouli mixes up in
>> cold water with dried tomatoes add sprouts or cabbage or lambs
>> quarters or miners lettuce. You'll have lots of that in the first 500
>> miles. Watch out for poison oak. They both grow near the water Marmot
>>
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>>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Peanut butter w/ honey on a bagel / tortilla / pita/ English muffin.
>>> Pack of tuna or salmon w/ small packs of mayo and relish.
>>> Black bean or refried bean mix w/ f-d cheese, olive oil, and chopped, shelf-stable bacon [this reconstitutes well w/ cold water while you hike].
>>> Freeze-dried fruits (also great for snacking while walking).
>>> Pepperoni; baby bel cheese on a bagel w/ small pack of mustard.
>>>
>>> Or mix things up. As Dicentra used to say (inaccurately), "There are no rules". Actually, there is one rule. you can't put sugar on grits.
>>>
>>> Mango
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "Scott Diamond" <scott.diamond.mail at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Jeffrey Olson" <philos56 at live.com>
>>> Cc: "Pct Mailing List" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 8:44:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Eating while backpacking...
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestions Jeffrey. I'm sorting out my food plans for
>>> 2016. I'm actually OK with the vast selection of freeze dried food
>>> for dinner and I think I have enough options for breakfast but I'm
>>> really struggling with enough variety for lunch/day snacking. I have
>>> fear of packing the food in boxes and after 4 weeks on the trail
>>> getting sick of my meal plan. I'm brainstorming on everything I can
>>> think of for lunch. You got any good suggestions for that?
>>>
>>> -Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Jeffrey Olson <philos56 at live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I contributed this in 2004. I thought it worth sharing again..
>>>>
>>>> My favorite dinners are a compilation of cheap, healthy components.
>>>> There are four basic levels.
>>>>
>>>> The first level is the base; pasta, instant rice, cous cous, polenta
>>>> (grits)
>>>> or potato flakes, my favorite. 3 oz for the first couple weeks, 4-6
>>>> oz for the rest of the hike.
>>>>
>>>> The second level is a dehydrated soup; split pea, black bean (with
>>>> extra
>>>> salt) or my favorite, curried lentil. 2 -3 oz is enough.
>>>>
>>>> The third level is the "binder." I never knew about binders until I
>>>> got disgusted with prepackaged freeze dried food - mostly price. The
>>>> binder is the ingredient that ties everything else together. Rice
>>>> and black bean soup mix gets old real fast.
>>>>
>>>> The bind I favor is parmesian cheese - Kraft or some other generic version.
>>>> The stuff lasts forever and has good fat content. For the first two
>>>> weeks
>>>> -
>>>> 2oz, and 3 oz for the rest of the hike. You can carry oil or
>>>> margarine, fake and tubbed, but I've found that good old Kraft
>>>> Parmesian makes me smack my lips as I wolf down dinner. Depending on
>>>> the meal I include an ounce of 4% dehydrated milk as another binder.
>>>>
>>>> The fourth level is where you get creative, and can use the dehydrator.
>>>> Anything goes. An oddity I like is to include dehydrated
>>>> blueberries, an ounce or two, in a dinner once in a while.
>>>> Vegetables, etc. Whatever the imagination can concoct. If you use
>>>> potato flakes, include fake margarine and about three ounces per
>>>> person of soy baco bits. That's a lot of baco bits, believe me...
>>>> They are salty and absolutely wonderful. Potato flakes makes the
>>>> greatest volume per weight, but there are some issues with the
>>>> hypoglycemic spike some people might have to consider.
>>>>
>>>> I package dinners at home in the same manner. Use a quart freezer
>>>> bag and in it put all the ingredients. Secure with a small strip of duct tape.
>>>> You'll put
>>>> in two to three cups of boiling water, let ist, and eat. Some meals
>>>> fill the freezer bag. Most don't
>>>>
>>>> You can vary your dinners so you don't have the same dinner but
>>>> twice a month. I found I preferred more curried lentil dinners and
>>>> fewer black beans. I really liked potato dinners once a week. They
>>>> make a LOT of food for the weight, and taste so, so, good with the margarine and baco bits.
>>>> I'm a little suspect about the potato dinner's nutrition, hence they
>>>> are a treat - once a week.
>>>>
>>>> This stuff is all bought in bulk. The idea of shopping as you go has
>>>> its fans, but I don't like leaving the trail, and I know what I will
>>>> eat on the trail. Mac and cheese it ain't... My package disappeared
>>>> from the Big Lake Religious camp and I had to hitch into Sisters for
>>>> a resupply at the store at the edge of town. $50 for five days (1995
>>>> dollars). I figured that I was spending about $4 a day if I ate
>>>> nothing but bulk food. My folks live in the bay area and shipping
>>>> the food was not that expensive. I so appreciated my next food drop
>>>> at Timberline Lodge... The store bought stuff just wasn't the same.
>>>> Where were the baggies?
>>>>
>>>> When I added the mealpack bars, or power bars, or any of the
>>>> "someone else does the work" foods, the cost easily doubled. That
>>>> said, I'm a convert to the 4oz bars you can buy for less than a buck at http://mealpack.com/.
>>>> You
>>>> get 440 calories for less than a buck!!! You have to buy a minimum
>>>> of 50 bars, but that's not a big deal.
>>>>
>>>> Jeffrey Olson
>>>> Laramie, WY
>>>>
>>>>
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