[pct-l] Why I'm I carrying an alcohol stove?

[Robert Henry]

If you want hot food now, nothing beats something like a Jet :Boil, even
for one person. It's well worth the extra weight and fuel logistics.  The
image of miserable hungry hikers waiting for their alcohol stove to heat
their food, while I lounge around momentarily sated, sticks with me.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Jim Banks <JimLBanks at verizon.net> wrote:

> I also use a Jet Boil and I do the same thing with a piece of masking tape
> and a pencil. I average 20 to 21 boils per small canister.  It is very
> reliable.  I have never gotten less than 20, even in the High Sierra, but
> you have to pay attention and not keep it on after you reach a boil.
>
> I-Beam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Michael
> Irving
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 2:54 PM
> To: Jay Bruins; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Why I'm I carrying an alcohol stove?
>
> That’s very similar to me, although I put a small piece of masking tape on
> the side and use my “stowaway” pen (super light ballpoint) (like the space
> pen, but lighter) and put tick marks on the tape, one per boil.  I get
> about 20 boils out of a 100g (small) canister for my JetBoil filling it up
> with water to the top 500 ml line.  My “average” is on the PCT in regards
> to elevation…not in the High Sierra…which I’d guess would be not as many as
> 20.
>
> -GoalTech
>
>
> > On Jan 9, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Jay Bruins <jbruins at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I carry a sharpie in my first aid and/or 10 essentials kit. I place
> > tick marks on the bottom for boils. Not perfect, but you can count
> > them. (I used to just shake them, but I’ve carried far more spares
> > than I needed to because of that.)
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 9, 2015, at 2:33 PM, JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know how to capture the "fiddle with it" quotient, but alcohol
> has a high (bad) FQ (fiddle quotient), imho.  My Esbit tabs have a low FQ.
> Canister, butane low but not so much because you can't tell how much fuel
> you have left (on the trail).  With Esbit tabs, you just count 'em.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bryce
> >> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 5:29 PM
> >> To: PCT-L
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Why I'm I carrying an alcohol stove?
> >>
> >> On 1/9/2015 2:44 PM, Tim Umstead wrote:
> >>> For more then 15 years I have carried an alcohol stove.  While doing
> >>> the JMT last summer, as an experiment, I carried a Soto Wind Master
> >>> and a canister.  I'm looking at some of my math and I'm surprised at
> >>> what I'm seeing and I'm asking myself "Why I'm I carrying an alcohol
> >>> stove?"
> >>>
> >>> Some background information, I cook for four people,
> >>
> >> Conventional wisdom says that if you cook for more than 1 person,
> >> alcohol has no advantages over butane.
> >>
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