[pct-l] noaa predictions - SOBO or NOBO

Jeffrey Olson philos56 at live.com
Mon Dec 7 20:45:22 CST 2015


At this time of year the noaa site is good for nothing more than 
planning - for strategizing.  As April approaches, and if it truly can 
be a SOBO  year by then, then you can have your ducks in a row. The 
whole point is to take the big picture indicators - the noaa site, and 
begin thinking about what you will do if snow is heavy in the Sierra and 
light in the Cascades, or ???

When you get to the level of specific snow sensors, you're way down the 
line in terms of planning - March or so.

Right now you can begin to think of a SOBO hike -  not because of any 
empirical data, but because the big picture indicators point to it being 
a higher possibility this year than others.

It's fun to plan, so why not have two options - NOBO and SOBO?  The time 
spent will not be wasted...  It'll be fun!!!

Jeff...

On 12/7/2015 8:02 PM, Andrea Dinsmore wrote:
> ​Same thing at Stevens Pass. The sensor is at 4010' near the hwy. But to go
> south on the trail from that sensor you immediately go up to 5,600'.
> Sensors seem to be placed so they are accessible to the scientists who deal
> with them. The sensors will not be at the highest part of the PCT.
>
> Andrea Dinsmore
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Dan C. aka Thumper <dofdear at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Dave, Others and you too Ned,
>>
>> A snow sensor is only good for the immediate area of the sensor.  Think in
>> terms of feet.  As an example, on 30 June 2010 the SNOTEL sensor at Harts
>> Pass registered zero (0") of snow yet 100 feet away on the trail we walked
>> through 2 feet of consolidated snow.  I believe this problem exists with
>> most if not all traditional sensors.
>>
>> Since then postholer.com has added some pretty neat features for his
>> Google Maps implementation.  Specifically, at http://postholer.com/gmap/
>> on the right is a drop down titled Map Skins with a whole series of
>> selections under the heading Todays Snow Analysis.  I've discussed this
>> toll with Postholer and he gets a daily web services update from a NOAA
>> satellite resource.  This past year when hiking in the same area I was able
>> to compare those maps with what we actually saw on the ground and found the
>> information both useful and accurate.
>>
>> This is my go to resource for snow planning.  Take a look today and there
>> is snow where you would expect it...  Hope this is helpful,
>>
>> Thumper aka Dan C
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