[pct-l] Ursack in SoCal?

[Jackie McDonnell]

I've hiked 20,000 miles, and always sleep with my food under my feet . . .
. EXCEPT for areas where bear canisters are required.  This includes the
mice-infested shelters on the AT.  I've NEVER had a rodent get into my
food.  Never had any bear problems.  And my M&Ms are always close enough
for overnight snacks!

Yogi
www.yogisbooks.com


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Sir Mixalot <atetuna at gmail.com> wrote:

> If all you care for is safety, it's probably safe enough to sleep with your
> food.  That's not why I use an Ursack.  I use it for rodents.  I've had a
> mouse smell through multiple layers of Ziploc brand freezer bags and
> eventually get into my food even though I was sleeping with it.  Several
> weeks later I was using an Ursack and left it hanging in the mountains as I
> left the trail for a week to attend kickoff and do some other things, but
> even with all that time my food wasn't compromised.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:16 PM, rbelshee <rbelshee at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Bears will smell your food regardless of precautions.
> >
> > In the few areas where bears are habituated to humans (e.g. Yosemite) use
> > the provided steel bear food boxes or bear canisters. Everywhere else
> sleep
> > with your food and bears will not pursue it.
> >
> > In Washington the problem will be mice, whose sense of smell is 200 times
> > better than humans (though still a tenth of a bears). Enough layers of
> > freezer Ziploc bags will block the smell sufficiently. I had mice
> standing
> > on my food bag looking around for food and give up and leave. I used
> three
> > layers of freezer Ziploc bags and then two layers of trash compactor
> bags.
> >
> > Rod "Steady" Belshee
> > hikepaddle.blogspot.com
> >
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