[pct-l] Data Book Discrepancies

[Tortoise]

It has been a couple of years since I did much with any of the guides. I used Wilderness Press guides as well as half-mile's and Postholer's  info. I found water where none of the guides indicated there was water. Same for campsites and couldn't find sites where a guide(s) said there was, even with a GPS.

I thought Postholer's elevation changes were more realistic and I used those in planning. My gripe is that they use different landmarks or at least different names making it difficult to correlate the data.

My $.02.


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Tortoise

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> On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:45, "Walljito ... as in mojito" <walljito at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ultimately, the "best" source of PCT information is whichever has the most
> reliable info for where you are relative to where you need to go ... next
> ... that next water source, camping spot, resupply stop, etc ... where you
> always need to know how much water and/or food is enough to avoid
> unnecessary weight ... or where an "error" of  a tenth of a mile (500+ feet)
> could preclude being able to easily/reliably find something like a poorly
> marked trail junction in heavy growth,  or just staying on the PCT trail
> where there is a choice, or even a spaghetti-bowl of choices.
> 
> The combination of (1) Halfmile's maps, (2) Halfmile's PCT app on a
> smartphone, and (3) Yogi's guide for the nature/quality of that next
> objective plus an abundance of related information ... is superb ... vast,
> detailed info very effectively presented ... and absolutely accurate - if
> the "app" says you are there, you are within a FEW FEET - forget tenths of a
> mile ... and consistent - these sources have the same numbers, eliminating
> the stress of which to believe. Combined with the current water report, it's
> also as "current" as it is possible to be.
> 
> I met Halfmile at Cajon Pass a few weeks ago. Really nice guy! He was thru
> hiking and updating his waypoints ... again. And, it's obvious, a lot of
> hikers are providing Yogi with update info for the tail, towns, facilities,
> etc., for her annual updates. PCT hikers are lucky that Halfmile and Yogi do
> what they do, and I cannot imagine how it could be done better.
> 
> The Guthook PCT app is also high quality info, and the presentation is
> GREAT. If you have a high-capacity cell phone, it's worth having as an
> interesting ADDITION to the above.
> 
> Of course, it is possible, I suppose, to hike the PCT with little or none of
> such information, i.e.,  the "hard way" and in ignorance which some on this
> listserv seem to suggest is the "right way", but I expect that would result
> in not nearly as enjoyable an experience for the vast majority of hikers.
> And, as Andrea Dinsmore suggests, just because you know exactly where you
> are does not mean you will like being there. HYOH
> 
> -Walljito
> 
> ========================
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:15:59 -0400
> From: walt Durling <durlfam4 at icloud.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Data Book Discrepancies
> 
> I'm soon to get back on trail at the CA-Oregon border.  I've two data books:
> PCT Data Book by Wilderness Press, and the PCT Complete Data Book by Parks.
> 
> Going over them I see significant differences when it comes to mileage, from
> 4 miles up to 8 miles for, example, water sources, but for other things as
> well.  For instance, Thielsen Creek in Oregon is listed at mileage 1860.8 on
> the Wilderness Press data book, but at 1870.4 in the Parks data book.  Or,
> Hwy 62 to Mazama is listed at 1830.4 in the WP book, but at 1834.5 in Parks.
> In fact, the books' mileages are almost universally different, and not by a
> little.
> 
> Query:  Anyone out there who have used these books and can comment on their
> accuracy or lack thereof? walt
> 
> 
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