[pct-l] Lite Weight Cookset

[Jim Marco]

Dennis,
	Hi Guy! Yeah, the Jetboil is pretty good and heard stories of 10oz stove/pot combinations (Sol Ti) from them. I haven't had a chance to try this one out, yet. Caffin's stove is only about 8oz for a similar set up(stove, pot, windscreen) and it is remote so it will work inverted on a 20 degree morning.

As far as fuel consumption, all stoves get about 9-12gm per liter at best, even the SVEA. Heat exchangers work by capturing "residual" heat. If you cook a half liter in about 7 minutes, there is little "residual" heat. The last time I took the JetBoil out it was on the high side at about 12gm/L, but it cooked in about 1.5-2 minutes. It just cooks faster. At 15oz, it wasn't as robust as the SVEA and packages larger. My brother in law likes the JetBoil, too.

The fuel bottle for the SVEA that I carry is a coke bottle and I carry an extra cap with a tiny tube, made from stripping a piece of 12ga wire, wedged/glued onto it. The bottle and spare cap weigh about 1-3/8oz or 39gm. In the 7-8 years of using it, I have never had a spill from filling the stove with it. If I do see fuel in the tank, I release pressure on the bottle and it sucks the fuel back into it. Priming, I need to get about 1gm or so of fuel into the indent under the burner, the little hose is handy for that. (The SVEA doesn't need a pump, the only moving part is the valve.)

	My thoughts only . . .
		jdm   
 
-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Phelan
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:55 AM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lite Weight Cookset

I didn't think the Jetboil was a good option until I started using one.
While they are heavier than the stove with a TI pot setup, they are so efficient in their heat transfer they make up for their excess weight by saving gas.  I have found that a jetboil will use almost 50% less fuel to boil a given amount of water than stove and pot setup.  This is even more true when there is a wind (breeze).

Dennis


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Jim Marco <jdm27 at cornell.edu> wrote:

> Yeah, there are a lot of good canister outfits out there. As much as I 
> like alcohol for short weekend trips and overnighters, I do not use 
> them for more than a few nights out.
>
> For white gas stoves, I prefer the venerable SVEA 123r. It is a rugged 
> little stove, 12oz of fuel is good for about two weeks(the fuel weighs 
> about 10oz, but the stove weighs ~20oz.) Total is around 35oz for 14 
> days with pot and wind screen. This *will* run on auto fuel though not 
> as hot/clean.
>
> Only one canister stove do I feel comfortable with. This is Caffin's 
> 3.1oz remote stove. Coupled with a 1oz wind screen, a grease pot at 
> 3.25oz, and an 240g canister (actually weighs a bit more than 12oz) 
> this makes a great stove for about 10 days. Total is around 20oz for 
> 10 days. I recommend a spare canister because these are not as reliable as the SVEA.
>         My thoughts only . . .
>                 jdm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net 
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Dan C. aka Thumper
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:37 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Lite Weight Cookset
>
> Just thought I'd share my cookset info:
>
> Optimus Crux Weekend HE Cook System - Combined weight = 315g or 11.1oz 
> (About 25% less than Jet Boil PCS)
>
> I've found them Sports Authority as well as on Amazon;
> http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-Crux-Stove-Terra-Weekend/dp/B0046GRL6A/r
> ef=pd_sbs_sg_2
>
> This set uses standard iso-butane canisters.  The weight can be 
> reduced further by eliminating the covers and possibly the sauce pan/lid.
>
> Thumper
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