[pct-l] Going stoveless and resupply as you go

Wed Jan 22 11:25:45 CST 2014

Scott,

You amaze me, you bottomless pit of information. Thanks for the time you 
take to help!
Gives me more confidence that it can be done without real problems. I'm 
not a health freak at all, but knowing that I can get good stuff in most 
places (and use Yogis book to figure out where the best chances are) 
helps a lot.

Thanks to all the helpful answers,
Meike

Am 22.01.2014 08:37, schrieb Scott Williams:
> It did for me.  Full resupply means a pretty good market even if not 
> up to super market size.  I'm OK with stoveless instant rice and 
> instant mashed potatoes for a base, tuna and packaged cooked chicken, 
> jerky, soup mixes, olive oil, peanut butter, cheese and salami, 
> oatmeal, dried fruit and nuts, an assortment of energy bars and other 
> packaged mixes.  And all of that you'll find in a place listed as 
> "Full resupply." Others will go for the breads and tortillas as part 
> of a no cook resupply and those items will be there too.  Many folks 
> going stoveless focus on tortillas, bagels or bread and hard cheese 
> and salami for most of their meals, and that will always be available 
> in a full resupply stop.  But it doesn't mean a health food store, 
> which is where you'll find better stuff for going stoveless, but if 
> I'm remembering right, Yogi lists them when they're there.
>
> It would be more difficult coming from another country, for sure.  I 
>  just spent a month in France and as similar as much of the food is, I 
> had a hell of a time figuring out what all the different names and 
> qualities of yogurt were.  We did some experimenting and found what we 
> needed, but there was a learning curve and at first it was really 
> confusing.  Keep asking.  A Vons is a pretty big store.  Ray's Food 
> Place, I have no idea, your guess is as good as mine, as they don't 
> have them in my part of the country.  But if it's big enough to get 
> the Full resupply listing, I'd trust that I could do resupply there.
>
> When you get a good resupply stop, check for towns up trail that are 
> listed as convenience store only and ship to those places.  When you 
> find a health food store that has dried cooked beans and veggies, buy 
> more than you need and ship them forward.
>
>  Once you set out, you'll meet a lot of American hikers and you'll be 
> able to ask these questions as they come up.  Go over Yogi's guide 
> with someone savvy about the PCT, and there will be many on trail, and 
> have them look at your resupply options up trail.  You'll get it and 
> you'll get plenty of help from others.  They may be your first "Trail 
> Angels."  I never saw a hiker from another country get anything but a 
> big dose of magic just for being over here hiking the trail we love so 
> well.  You will have friends.
>
> Going stoveless is more difficult when you're resupplying without the 
> benefit of having dried your own food, at least it is for me as I 
> don't eat all the junk on trail I used to.  But it is doable and it 
> won't be the hardest part of the hike.  And, if after the desert you 
> just can't stand it, there are good gear shops in Lone Pine and Bishop 
> where you can buy a Jet Boil or something else and you can start 
> cooking.  But you're on the right track in wanting to go stoveless in 
> this drought year, the driest year since records have been kept in 
> California.  So kudos and thanks from all us very drought weary 
> Californians!  And have a wonderful summer!
>
> Shroomer
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Meike <dideldadum at web.de 
> <mailto:dideldadum at web.de>> wrote:
>
>     Yogi's book is certainly helpful on this. But I guess there are some
>     things that you just know when you are a native and you just don't
>     know
>     if you are not. That's language and culture. You probably know what to
>     expect if Yogi tells you there is a "Ray's Food Place" or a "Vons"
>     or a
>     "Convenience Store" - I don't. For example, when I read about
>     Wrightwood
>     I learned that "grocery store" is apparently not just another word for
>     "supermarket", as I thought before ;)
>
>     If Yogi says you can do a "full resupply", does that usually mean
>     a big
>     enough selection to find food for stoveless hiking?
>
>     Meike
>
>     Am 22.01.2014 04:00, schrieb Scott Williams:
>     > You can't expect to find good food at all stops and that's where
>     > Yogi's Town Guide comes in.  Check what places you can expect to be
>     > able to find a good selection of food and once there, use it as the
>     > place to ship food forward to the next little spots that have poor
>     > selection and keep on going up the trail that way.  I did most
>     of the
>     > PCT that way and it works fine.  Carry a few weeks of Yogi's guide
>     > with you so you know where to ship to.
>     >
>     > Shroomer
>     >
>     >
>     > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Meike <dideldadum at web.de
>     <mailto:dideldadum at web.de>
>     > <mailto:dideldadum at web.de <mailto:dideldadum at web.de>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I never hiked stoveless, so this is a pretty new challenge
>     for me. But
>     >     reading about low-snow-years and fire danger and so on makes
>     it a
>     >     really
>     >     reasonable and intriguing challenge for me. So I am really
>     >     thankful for
>     >     all the suggestions for no cook food on this list.
>     >
>     >     The biggest obstacle for me might be coffee... nothing
>     better than
>     >     having a hot pot of black motivation and comfort watching
>     sunrise
>     >     after
>     >     packing up your tent. But thats more a psychological
>     obstacle, and
>     >     those
>     >     are made to overcome, aren't they?
>     >
>     >     But: I will have to resupply as I go as I don't have any support
>     >     persons
>     >     in the US. The question that arises to me: what kind of no cook
>     >     food can
>     >     I expect to find along the trail, especially in the smaller
>     stores /
>     >     convenient stores? How common are bagels, hard salami, cashews,
>     >     sprouting seeds and the like close to the trail? Having to
>     rely on
>     >     snack
>     >     bars, tacos and other "pure junk" seems really daunting to
>     me. Snack
>     >     bars and the like are ok for snacks, but what kind of
>     >
>     salty-readily-available-low-bulk-and-weight-but-tasty-and-satisfying-and-maybe-even-healthy
>     >     food would be your top tip?
>     >
>     >     Is going stoveless and resupplying as you go doable if you
>     are even a
>     >     little picky about your food?
>     >
>     >     Meike
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