[pct-l] Heads Up... Hiker Scum

Will M jalan04 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 16 16:54:52 CDT 2014


I think the one who didn't give up his name deserves a new trail name:
D*****bag


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Will M <jalan04 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the one who didn't give up his name deserves a new trail name:
> D*****bag
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> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Ryan Allouche <ryanallouche at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Mayor Trevor hey man. You absolutely did the right thing and we are proud
>> of you for standing up.
>>
>> This is Rhino, we had just met near the top of San Jacinto just earlier
>> today lol. I had the ula pack as well. I just completed my cactus to clouds
>> to cactus hike. That was brutal!
>>
>> Just wanted to give a shout out man.
>>
>> Don't let that bother you anymore. It's going to be an awesome adventure.
>> Maybe I'll see ya in a few months!
>>
>> Take care,
>> Rhino
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone by Ryan Allouche
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Carol <museumgirl at me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > As a future PCT hiker, I say, THANK YOU, Trevor, for watching out for
>> all of us. You did exactly as you should have done. I hope word gets around
>> and those guys realize that their behavior is unacceptable. Freedom does
>> not mean license.
>> >
>> > Carol
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Apr 15, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Daniel Zellman <danielzellman at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's a sad and at the same time inspiring story.
>> >>
>> >> Sad that the world is full of aggressive, angry idiots -- not just on
>> the
>> >> trail, but anywhere. Of course, the more popular and crowded the trail
>> >> becomes, the more the personalities will reflect the larger society.
>> >> Hopefully, there is some small karmic action that moves in the other
>> >> direction as well ... that the ideas and ideals of tolerance and
>> presence
>> >> and compassion embodied in the works of folks like John Muir and Henry
>> >> Thoreau, are instilled and nurtured and strengthened by being in the
>> >> wilderness, and that some of that returns with us from the trail back
>> into
>> >> the world. One can only hope, I guess.
>> >>
>> >> Inspiring, because of your courageous and honorable behavior. Doing the
>> >> right thing -- especially when doing so puts one at physical or psychic
>> >> risk -- is often not an easy choice. Much easier to just turn one's
>> back
>> >> and walk away. But if we all just turn away, when there are real
>> >> consequences, then we are failing in our responsibility -- not only to
>> one
>> >> another, but equally, to ourselves.
>> >>
>> >> So, I say ...
>> >>
>> >> Three Cheers for Trevor!
>> >>
>> >> -dz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Trevor McKee <trevormckee85 at yahoo.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I was in Warner Springs yesterday waiting for a ride past a section I
>> >>> hiked in March enjoying the Community Center and a short rest. I
>> headed
>> >>> into the bathrooms to find a couple guys washing their hair in the
>> sink.
>> >>> There was soapy brown water splashed all over the sinks and floors,
>> wet
>> >>> long hair everywhere, and an overall mess.
>> >>>
>> >>> It made me upset... for a couple reasons. The people who run the
>> Community
>> >>> Center are awesome and don't deserve to deal with cleaning up their
>> mess.
>> >>> They offer $8 showers there, and if you can't afford it there's a nice
>> >>> creek a mile away, or a water spigot outside in the grass. But mainly
>> it
>> >>> bothered me because the way they were abusing that community space
>> could
>> >>> directly affect those behind them. Warner Springs may chose to close
>> the
>> >>> bathrooms tomorrow... do you see what I'm saying?
>> >>>
>> >>> So at the sink as I was washing my hands and decided to speak up. I
>> asked
>> >>> them if washing their hair in the sink was allowed here. They said
>> there
>> >>> wasn't a sign saying they couldn't. I said they offered $8 showers
>> that
>> >>> wouldn't make a mess and give hikers a bad rap. They laughed at me
>> and I
>> >>> left.
>> >>>
>> >>> After getting a burger at the main building I headed back to use the
>> >>> restroom when half way through the parking lot one of the long haired
>> sink
>> >>> boys came up behind me and said, "I don't appreciate you telling them
>> we
>> >>> were washing our hair in the sink." I told him that I didn't rat them
>> out
>> >>> but likewise I didn't appreciate them making a mess of a community
>> space.
>> >>> By now we were back by the bathrooms where his long haired friends
>> were
>> >>> sitting on the ground smoking a bowl. They gave me a lot of "HYOH
>> man! Mind
>> >>> your own fucking business." I tried to explain that it's all of our
>> >>> business when it affects us all. There was a lot of interrupting and
>> raised
>> >>> voices and before you knew it they were all standing up surrounding
>> me and
>> >>> getting in my face like they were going to fight me.
>> >>>
>> >>> One of them, a late 20's  w/ long brown hair and glasses and goes by
>> >>> Turtle said he carries Mace for people like me... Really? The other
>> bad
>> >>> one, the instigator, again in his mid/late 20's with a long braid,
>> light
>> >>> blue eyes, dark blue truckers hat, red pack, and accent, told me they
>> >>> didn't need Mace (implying they were going to beat me up). I asked if
>> they
>> >>> were threatening me and I asked what their names were. Only the
>> Turtle guy
>> >>> gave it up. As this went on and they kept posturing like they were
>> going to
>> >>> kick my ass a lady walked out of the women's room and broke it up.
>> >>>
>> >>> You guys, this was the low of my hike so far. I thought I was doing
>> the
>> >>> right thing by speaking up, directly to the problem. I was trying to
>> watch
>> >>> out for the Community Center and upcoming hikers. Being met w/
>> physical and
>> >>> verbal aggressiveness sucked. I talked to my buddy Scott on the phone
>> who
>> >>> thru hiked in 2012 and asked if I was out of line. He said No. He said
>> >>> holding people accountable for their actions on the trail is tough,
>> but
>> >>> they need to hear it.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am so thankful I got my ride to Idyllwild and don't have to worry
>> about
>> >>> hiking with those guys. Keep a look-out tho, they are armed and
>> dangerous
>> >>> for "people like me."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for listening,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mayor Trevor
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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