[pct-l] bicycle class at Cascade Lockes

Tue Oct 29 12:16:59 CDT 2013

Sounds like something that would be good for Comedy Central......good for a
laugh. Sorry....but from all the reports....that is how the MB groups who
actually use the PCT thinks. It's all a big joke to them. I understand that
southern California is a lot different terrain than the parts north....but
really. The "fight" between the two opposing groups will come to a head one
of these days. Hikers will be hurt. MB will be hurt. The trail will become
a mess and the animals won't fair any better. Until the authorities get out
there and show a presence and hand out tickets or whatever this is only
going to get worse.

Andrea Dinsmore

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:06 AM, JB de Anza <johnbdeanza at gmail.com> wrote:

> Danny,
>
> I don't know who or what was presenting that information, or if your
> recollection is entirely accurate, but it certainly sounds like you are
> referring to IMBA's Rules of the Trail and the accompanying graphic image.
> Link the the graphic is here and pasted below are the Rules of the Trail.
>
> http://www.mountainjunkies.net/IMBA_Respect.gif
>
> IMBA developed the "Rules of the Trail" to promote responsible and
> courteous conduct on shared-use trails. Keep in mind that conventions for
> yielding and passing may vary in different locations, or with traffic
> conditions.
>
>    1. *Ride Open Trails:* Respect trail and road closures — ask a land
>    manager for clarification if you are uncertain about the status of a
> trail.
>    Do not trespass on private land. Obtain permits or other authorization
> as
>    required. Be aware that bicycles are not permitted in areas protected as
>    state or federal Wilderness.
>    2. *Leave No Trace:* Be sensitive to the dirt beneath you. Wet and muddy
>    trails are more vulnerable to damage than dry ones. When the trail is
> soft,
>    consider other riding options. This also means staying on existing
> trails
>    and not creating new ones. Don't cut switchbacks. Be sure to pack out at
>    least as much as you pack in.
>    3. *Control Your Bicycle:* Inattention for even a moment could put
>    yourself and others at risk. Obey all bicycle speed regulations and
>    recommendations, and ride within your limits.
>    4. *Yield Appropriately:* Do your utmost to let your fellow trail users
>    know you're coming — a friendly greeting or bell ring are good methods.
> Try
>    to anticipate other trail users as you ride around corners. Bicyclists
>    should yield to other non-motorized trail users, unless the trail is
>    clearly signed for bike-only travel. Bicyclists traveling downhill
> should
>    yield to ones headed uphill, unless the trail is clearly signed for
> one-way
>    or downhill-only traffic. In general, strive to make each pass a safe
> and
>    courteous one.
>    5. *Never Scare Animals:* Animals are easily startled by an unannounced
>    approach, a sudden movement or a loud noise. Give animals enough room
> and
>    time to adjust to you. When passing horses, use special care and follow
>    directions from the horseback riders (ask if uncertain). Running cattle
> and
>    disturbing wildlife are serious offenses.
>    6. *Plan Ahead:* Know your equipment, your ability and the area in which
>    you are riding and prepare accordingly. Strive to be self-sufficient:
> keep
>    your equipment in good repair and carry necessary supplies for changes
> in
>    weather or other conditions. Always wear a helmet and appropriate safety
>    gear.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Danny Wormington <
> dannywormington at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> >      At Cascade Lockes there is an annual PCT type event to celebrate
> > the hikers of the PCT.  There are booths with hiking hardware and food
> > and beer, and classes on various things  concerning the trail. I dropped
> > in on one of these classes, a class on trail etiquette. In the class
> > they said there were three main users of the trail. They drew a pyramid
> > and put equestrians at the top and hikers and bikers on each side at the
> > bottom.  Equestrians were at the top, they said, because both bikers and
> > hikers had to give way to these animals.  Bikers, they said, were
> > responsible to give way, in turn, to hikers.  There was one exception
> > that I found interesting.  If a mountain biker is going down the trail
> > too fast to stop then equestrians and hikers have to give way to the
> biker.
> >       I have mulled this over since that class.  I guess that it makes
> > sense to give a biker the right-of-way if he comes over a blind ramp and
> > is five feet in the air about to land on top of you, but it seems
> > strange to make it a rule.  Bicyclers have the right-of-way only if they
> > are behaving incredibly stupid.  It also seems strange to have a class
> > at a pct event that  factors in bicyclists as an integral part of the
> > trail.
> >      So here is what I learned.  1) bicycles are part of the trail
> > 2)bicycles must behave responsibly on the trail  3)we must expect them
> > to behave irresponsibly  4)bicycles who behave irresponsibly have the
> > right-of-way
> >
> >      Danny
> >
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