[pct-l] Opinions on the list -MTB

[Nick Thelen]

Seeing a no-bikes sign on a trail with (to me) an illegal MTB ban doesn't mean much.

As far as reporting, please do.  Please call/email/phone every instance to Beth (or the USFS).  
I do not believe I have ever advocated otherwise.

No motive from end - just being as honest as I can. I still find it funny there are people who act like 
the sky is falling when anyone mentions a bike on the 2650 mile PCT...

I can understand trail access near populated areas having a potential issue....or even thru hiker season...
but short sections of the PCT deeper into the back country that link together mega rides
for currently 'legal' trails - makes no sense...

as you know, it is pretty underpopulated out there

Appreciate the response,
Nick





On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:01 PM, JPL <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
 
I've read a lot of reports on this list that note that trail heads on the 
PCT are well marked with "no bikes" signs.  But even if they, the 
malefactors, somehow don't know, they need to be told (if you're comfortable 
doing that), and the instance reported.  Oh, and if I choose to tell them, 
and they laugh at me, I certainly wouldn't escalate the encounter.  Just say 
"have a nice day" and move on.
Is there some reason that you're so adamant that citizens
 ignore illegal 
behavior and not report it?  I'm wondering about your motivation


-----Original Message----- 
From: Nick Thelen
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 6:17 PM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Opinions on the list -MTB



JPL wrote:
"...in my opinion and experience, those who know they are in the wrong..."
____________________________________________

Although I did appreciate the rest of what you wrote....difficult to counter 
the logic, even if my
personal opinion sees it as not realistic....I would like to address the 
single line of yours quoted above.

There are very many who believe that they are simply not in the wrong, nor 
are they doing
anything illegal.  The ban in place is dubious at best - and this 
information will continue to be distributed
throughout the MTB community.

So it begs the question - if you are incorrect in your assumption that the 
MTB'rs encountered on the PCT
'know they are wrong'....how does that change your perspective, if any?

For if I am told to leave somewhere that I believe I have a right to 
be...well, I might just start laughing..
which might make you angry...

angry people have been known to do rash and thoughtless things on 
occasion...and no
 one wants to be part
of thoughtless and rash decisions (I don't at least) ;)
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