[pct-l] Fwd: What do you say to mountain bikers on the PCT

[JPL]

"I'm not sure that everybody
running around documenting and reporting everybody else's violations or
impacts is a very productive direction."

Violations need to be reported.  Unless we just want to turn our society 
over to criminals then law abiding citizens need to step up.  And in my 
limited observations do so.

-----Original Message----- 
From: JB de Anza
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 5:39 PM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: What do you say to mountain bikers on the PCT

But documentation of illegal use is just that: documentation of illegal
use. While illegal use is certainly a form of "conflict" and should be
discouraged and punished whenever possible, I don't think the mountain
bikers are denying that some people are riding on the PCT. In fact, some
brag about it like it's some kind of civil disobedience, which is a bit of
a stretch since they don't seem to be volunteering to be ticketed.

Some of the same mountain bikers also point out that other trail users
break rules too or also cause trail damage. I'm not sure that everybody
running around documenting and reporting everybody else's violations or
impacts is a very productive direction. And I'm even less confident that
USFS will know what to do with a stack of "evidence" anyway. But if it
makes people feel like they're doing something proactive, then I guess
people can decide for themselves. Just keep it safe and civil or the whole
idea is likely to backfire in my opinion.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] What do you say to mountain bikers on the PCT
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>


On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Nick Thelen <nthelen03 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> PS - I am still wondering how a photo/video will be of any use whatsoever
in a rider receiving a citation....
> I mean, we all look like spazzy dressed alien bugs with our
helmets/glasses/gloves and uber ugly attire. ;)

Documentation of trail conflicts is important, even if it does not
lead to a citation. The MTB folks regularly say that there is no
evidence of conflict, and use that as justification for opening
trails.

Documentation counters that argument. Documents every MTB encounter on
the PCT and report it to the USFS via their website
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