[pct-l] rescues, toilet paper, and questions

[Jackie McDonnell]

Um...........I was JOKING.
Didn't you notice the winking "Mags smiley face"?

Yogi
www.pcthandbook.com
On Oct 22, 2013 6:16 AM, "Smith/ORR" <trailwife at aol.com> wrote:

> Carol, I Don't like being told I must do anything, even when all common
> sense says it is right. But Yogi is right, beacons make sense! Maybe bear
> canister type regulations for beacons after a certain date would work.
>
> The OLD RidgeRunner
>
> Carol <museumgirl at me.com> wrote:
>
> >Required beacons. Or cow bells. How about cans of neon Silly String? That
> would be helpful but hardly LNT.
> >Carol
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Required beacons!!!   That's a FANTASTIC idea!
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Yogi
> >> www.pcthandbook.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Will Stenzel <willstenzel at hotmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yet another post on preparedness/rescues from a longtime
> >>> PCT-L-er, as well as some discussion questions on the general direction
> >>> for the
> >>> PCT:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't have much info., but were there any fatalities on the trail
> this
> >>> year?  As far as I know (and I don’t know much, at
> >>> least in the way of hard numbers), road walking and heart problems
> remain
> >>> the
> >>> biggest hazards on the PCT, at least in terms of actually dying out
> there.
> >>> True?  False?  I honestly don't know.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Despite the relative explosion in information available
> >>> about the PCT, to me it seems very little has changed regarding storm
> >>> preparedness since I set out NoBo in 1998.
> >>> I don’t know that there’s an answer – the PCT features a large number
> of
> >>> fast-moving, often highly-fatigued (and sometimes ill) hikers, who are
> >>> actively
> >>> encouraged by numerous sources (including this one) to leave most
> >>> cold-weather/snow/rain gear at home, attempting a trail that wends
> among
> >>> the
> >>> highest and most exposed ridges in the country.
> >>> What is the reasonable outcome?  I
> >>> think it’s an annual series of rescues whenever storms hit WA early -
> >>> unless some changes were made....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Which leads to a question(s) for the group – does the PCT need changes,
> >>> and if
> >>> so, what?  More education?  Maybe some kind of test prior to getting a
> >>> long-distance permit?  Required beacons?  Maybe a few shelters in
> isolated
> >>> areas?  Designated campsites/toilets?  Other?
> >>> Or is it fine the way it is?  For
> >>> example, last year I spent a month hiking from central Oregon to Donner
> >>> Summit,
> >>> and was amazed by how much more trash and general impact there was
> >>> compared to
> >>> when I first hiked in 1998.  (I was also amazed by the sheer
> grumpiness of
> >>> many NoBo-ers, but that's another story.)  What to do?
> >>> -Will
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