[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 70, Issue 16: e-mail change

Tue Oct 15 17:09:31 CDT 2013

Please change my e-mail address to:  Batdorff at frontier.com.   Thanks.

Jim Batdorff

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Today's Topics:

 1. Too Early to Start Dehydrating? (Alan Miller)
 2. Re: Too Early to Start Dehydrating? (Scott Williams)
 3. Border Crossing off the PCT (Carolyn Burkhart)
 4. Introduction/Buddy 2014 (Gretchen Walker)
 5. Re: Border Crossing off the PCT (Mark Liechty)
 6. Re: Border Crossing off the PCT (Brick Robbins)
 7. Re: Dehydrated Soylent, a liquid food (Diane Soini)
 8. lost dog...found (Stephanie Best)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:13:06 -0400
From: Alan Miller <alan.miller401 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Too Early to Start Dehydrating?
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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So, we are beginning to test out some meals for next years thru hike and I
was wondering if it is too early to start dehydrating meals?  Would it be
worth it to vacuum seal them or freeze them to extend their shelf life?
 Thanks for the help

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:39:28 -0700
From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Too Early to Start Dehydrating?
To: Alan Miller <alan.miller401 at gmail.com>
Cc: "<Pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Some things will last beautifully dehydrated now and simply put on a shelf
to be used for the next year, such as veggies and some of the more stable
meats like pork and beef.  Others however will do better to be frozen until
you get ready to head off in the spring.

On the CDT I dehydrated my meals all winter from December till my start in
early April.  The only ones I had problems with were dehydrated chicken
which began to get an off smell by the end of the hike and some of the
commercially dried cheese (like mac and cheese pdr sold by the pound) which
were from sealed quantities from the year before.   So it was somewhat old
to begin with.  The dried cheese was delicious for the first few months but
then, repackaged as it was in my meals, it got so stinky I couldn't eat the
meals and I usually like stinky cheese.   The chicken was fine for the
first 6 months or so, but when it got to 9 and 10 months since it had been
dried, it also  started to get funky.  They had been vacuum sealed but not
frozen.  Most of what I dried did fine and I'm still using some of it from
several years ago with no off flavors.  If you've got room in your freezer,
use it for anything you suspect might not make it.

Shroomer

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Alan Miller <alan.miller401 at gmail.com>wrote:

> So, we are beginning to test out some meals for next years thru hike and I
> was wondering if it is too early to start dehydrating meals?  Would it be
> worth it to vacuum seal them or freeze them to extend their shelf life?
>  Thanks for the help
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:33:04 -0700
From: Carolyn Burkhart <kitravensong at hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Border Crossing off the PCT
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Josh Eldridge ? PCT Class of 2013
9 hours ago
Hey everyone....Andrea Dinsmore asked me to share my border experience just so those thinking of taking a similar route would be aware.

I was lucky enough get in at ross lake and hike the east bank trail north to Canada without any issues. About 8 miles past the border i was questioned by a conservation officer and handed him my passport and permission to enter canada paperwork. the officer radioed into the border agency and after a long wait i was shocked to hear a voice come across the radio saying "arrest the suspect under the immigration act!!" i was handcuffed and transported to a police station in Hope BC where i was placed in a cell. Around 10 p.m. Someone sent by the border agency came to transport me to a detention facility near the Vancouver airport. i was thoroughly searched again, hancuffed at the wrists and ankles and loaded into the back of a transport vehicle.

Once in Vancouver i was placed in another cell where i spent the night. The next afternoon i finally had the opportunity to be interviewed by a border official. up to this point i really did not have an opportunity to explain my situation and the people i had contact with seemed to know little if anything about pct and had little understanding of the circumstances which caused me to cross the border in the manner in which i did. At the conclusion of the interview the border official thankfully seemed to understand my situation and said they had no grounds to detain me further....he'd try to get me released asap. A few hour later i was called and escorted out of the facility, placed in a cab and dropped off at the border with instructions to see a certain officer on the canadian side and hand him some paperwork. After that i was free. No charges were filed against me and supposedly i should be able to enter canada in the future though this ordeal will show up in the system. i 
 had been happy to get to Canada but i was even happier to get back to the U.S.!!!

In the end i guess i was detained because i didnt enter at a border crossing and because it was at a place other than the pct? So there ya go....take it for what you will. i have no regrets and am just happy that i had the chance to complete a continuous hike from Mexico to Canada. i plan on writing the pacific trail processing center of the border agency in hopes that future hikers wont run into the same issues. Goodluck to everyone still out there!! May you all cross the border safely and not end up in jail!! 
~ Coincidence

Sent from my iPhone

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:05:52 -0700
From: Gretchen Walker <midwife.gretchen at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Introduction/Buddy 2014
To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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Hello All,

I have been reading posts on this site for a couple of years and thinking about thru hiking the PCT for longer then I care to admit.  I have decided that 2014 will be the year.  I just wanted to introduce myself to the group.  

I know people have mentioned in several posts that you will meet people along the way and will naturally hike together with folks from time to time.  However, I would love to plan, train and hopefully have a hiking partner if possible.  I live in southern California but often travel to the Bay Area to visit family and friends.

Thanks all and I will probably be posting more as the date draws closer.

Gretchen

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:00:39 -0700
From: Mark Liechty <mlaccs at mlaccs.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Border Crossing off the PCT
To: Carolyn Burkhart <kitravensong at hotmail.com>
Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Carolyn Burkhart <kitravensong at hotmail.com> wrote:
> "arrest the suspect under the immigration act!!" i was handcuffed and transported to a police station in Hope BC where i was placed in a cell. Around 10 p.m. Someone sent by the border agency came to transport me to a detention facility near the Vancouver airport. i was thoroughly searched again, hancuffed at the wrists and ankles and loaded into the back of a transport vehicle.
> #######

What an amazing story.  One you can enjoy telling for many years to come.  Think of all those who finished without incident and got home with no final moments to celebrate.   

Plus you got a bonus warm bed to sleep on and probably fed a few meals.  

That is just absolutely wonderful.   Thank you so much for sharing.

And no, I am really not kidding.  While it probably seems like a bad deal now it will not be long before  this becomes a centerpiece of the legends of you and your family and friends,   only thing better wold have been for them to ship you back to Mexico and make thou start the walk over. :)

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:11:50 -0700
From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Border Crossing off the PCT
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Talking to a Canadian Friend of mine from BC, she told me that there
is a lot of illegal narco foot trafic along that lake, and that the
Canadians keep a close watch out on it.

She was not surprised at all that he was arrested.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Mark Liechty <mlaccs at mlaccs.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Carolyn Burkhart <kitravensong at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "arrest the suspect under the immigration act!!" i was handcuffed and transported to a police station in Hope BC where i was placed in a cell. Around 10 p.m. Someone sent by the border agency came to transport me to a detention facility near the Vancouver airport. i was thoroughly searched again, hancuffed at the wrists and ankles and loaded into the back of a transport vehicle.
>> #######
>
> What an amazing story.  One you can enjoy telling for many years to come.  Think of all those who finished without incident and got home with no final moments to celebrate.
>
> Plus you got a bonus warm bed to sleep on and probably fed a few meals.
>
> That is just absolutely wonderful.   Thank you so much for sharing.
>
> And no, I am really not kidding.  While it probably seems like a bad deal now it will not be long before  this becomes a centerpiece of the legends of you and your family and friends,   only thing better wold have been for them to ship you back to Mexico and make thou start the walk over. :)
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:25:33 -0700
From: Diane Soini <dianesoini at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dehydrated Soylent, a liquid food
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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That doesn't sound very palatable.

If you want a slightly less unpalatable food that you can live on  
indefinitely and take hiking try pemmican. It's not that hard to  
make. Add water and heat up for soup or eat cold just as it is. It's  
very calorically dense, too. There is no water in it, so even though  
it's relatively heavy compared to some powders, the weight is all fat  
and protein. Lasts forever even kept on a shelf. Use grass-fed beef  
tallow for best healthfulness. You can buy it already rendered which  
saves time. There was a good picture-laden post on backpacking light  
a while back on how to make pemmican.

On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:

> Subject: [pct-l] Dehydrated Soylent, a liquid food
> To: "Pct-L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>,	"Cdt-L" <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <000c01cec863$6e0b39b0$4a21ad10$@verizon.net>
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> I was intrigued by an article In the August issue of Popular  
> Science about a
> liquid food called Soylent:
>
> http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/could-liquid-replace- 
> food
>
>

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stephanie Best <stephintahoe at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [pct-l] lost dog...found
To: PCT-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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The info on the rescued dog was posted on the PCT facebook page by the guy who adopted "Chance"...https://www.facebook.com/groups/PCTClassof2013/permalink/392186984220418/.?

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:41:58 +0000
From: Tracy Fisher <tfisher9 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Through Hiking as a job
To: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Yes, I too am sorry the hiker didn't stop, I would have as I am sure many others would have.?

Regarding the hikers who saved the dog, can you give me more details on that one?? I remember in N. Cal. going past an empty camp with a note on a rock saying that their dog was lost. From there I spent the next couple of hours whistling and calling out as I walked north in hopes of the dog hearing me.? Nothing happened and I always wondered what happened.?

Tracy (aka Running Commentary)

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