[pct-l] How the apocalypse can benefit PCT hikers

Bill Thompson yoshiker at roadrunner.com
Fri Nov 15 11:22:30 CST 2013


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melanie Clarke" <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>
To: "Tortoise" <tortoise73 at charter.net>
Cc: "PCT-L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] How the apocalypse can benefit PCT hikers


>I was a Mormon growing up but I'm an Atheist now so I feel qualified to
> answer these questions.  Please don't be so harsh on the Mormons!
>
> Mormons are some of the nicest, friendly, most caring people I've ever 
> met.
> I had a wonderful childhood as a Mormon and their main concern is how to
> function as decent people.  My happy childhood feel apart when my mother
> began to follow New Age Religions, cults etc.  I had an Atheist friend who
> moved to Salt Lake, Utah after college.  He told me that neighborhood
> teenage boys would knock on his door and ask him if they could mow his 
> lawn
> as they have to do a good deed for their Boy Scouts.  I have absolutely no
> contact with the Mormon church here in godless California.  However, when
> my son was born with a severe heart defect and had to get airlifted to
> Stanford, a random neighborhood Mormon lady picked up my kindergartner 
> from
> school while I was tied up at the hospital and recruited other ladies to
> bring over dinners.  She accepted the fact that I was Atheist and gave me
> nothing but support.
>
> Boy Scouts have accepted gay scouts and in time, I feel will accept gay
> scout leaders.  Almost all religions are slow to accept the LGBT community
> so don't just pick on the Mormons.  Our entire society is slowly changing.
> I feel in time, historians will accept that the Son of their God was born
> into a Gay man.  Read John 13:21-23 and 21:20-23  Here when Jesus predicts
> his betrayal, Simon asks "The man reclining on Jesus's bosom"...  He is
> also described as "The ONE who Jesus loved"  hmmm.  Jesus is lounging
> around a room with all of his apostles and there happens to be ONE 
> cuddling
> up to Jesus that "HE" loves?  Also John 20:1-10 and 19:26-27 describes the
> ONE that Jesus loved!  The fact that Jesus was a gay man does NOT impact
> his message in any way of Peace, Goodwill towards men!  If I were God and
> saw how my gay people were persecuted, I would send my "Son of God" into a
> Gay vessel to help enlighten mankind.
>
> My favorite comedic passage is, Mark 14:51-52  Where the "young man whom
> Jesus loved" escapes from Romans when they grab the sheet off his body and
> he runs away naked.  This is so funny to me!  It's like, "oh crap the 
> cops"
> and he is able to get away.  Maybe as a Mormon child, I didn't have as 
> many
> sources of amusement but you have to admit, it's funny!
>
> Yes, they were a little slow to accept African American men into the
> Priesthood but their religion was formed when this issue was front and
> center.  In the end, they did the right thing.  They changed!!!  Thomas
> Jefferson, who stated "All men are created equal" had slaves and refused 
> to
> accept them as human beings!  I was furious when I went to visit
> Monticello.  It seemed to me that he refused to do the right thing, 
> because
> he couldn't afford his lavish lifestyle if he didn't have slaves and his
> ready concubine was the Halle Berry of her day.  For a nerdy geek to get 
> so
> lucky any other way, he would have to import someone from a Russian mail
> order bride, again at high expense.  Don't get me started.
>
> I am Atheist so I can make all the RIGHT decisions quickly without dogma
> slowing me down!
>
> Toga
>
> As for Biblical slavery:  I am not qualified but in the Old Testament,
> slavery was forced upon the Jews and other people and it was the reality 
> of
> the day and color had nothing to do with it.  As humanity began to evolve,
> the New Testament began to put parameters and restrictions on slavery.  I
> no longer remember the passages but the capture of slaves was criticized.
> Since there were no safety nets in that time, people who could not afford
> to eat and take care of their families contracted themselves into slavery.
> This form of slavery was over-looked up to the time the Bible ends.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Tortoise <tortoise73 at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I wonder, will they sell to us atheist? 😉
>>
>> Tortoise
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