[pct-l] Mountain Bike Posts

[randall welch]

Hi Nick, 
There is no rub. No one here is assuming that the trail is their personal or 
private property. The trail is open to everyone who uses it within the bounds of 
current law. The trail is fully accessible to you and your friends...no person 
is excluded. 

However, many activities are prohibited on the trail. For instance, offroad 
vehicles (ORV's) are not allowed, no matter how they are powered (human, or 
motor driven).
Unfortunately for your group, you really aren't seeking to gain access, because 
you already have access. The truth is, what you and your group are seeking is a 
form of special access above and beyond what is afforded to all other use 
groups. Worse, you seek special privilege for an activity that is already 
specifically prohibited. This is where your group and its approach to the issue 
seems dubious and/or dishonest. After all, this issue isn't about "Sharing the 
PCT", because it's already being shared with you. This is more about your group 
wanting special ORV access to the trail...Isn't it?
Randy

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From: Nick Thelen <nthelen03 at yahoo.com>
To: Judson Brown <judsonwb at gmail.com>
Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 5:09:55 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mountain Bike Posts

But therein lies the rub - the PCT is most definitely NOT your personal or 
private property...

Being rude = fine.  You may expect it in return....which simply leaves bad 
feelings for everyone (not good..blah..and sad)

The ONLY legal recourse you have is to report...as Mr. Teschlog stated earlier.

easy peasy.

Love,
Nick


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From: Judson Brown <judsonwb at gmail.com>
To: Nick Thelen <nthelen03 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mountain Bike Posts



They aren't another trail user- they are a trail abuser. Any biker on the PCT is 
breaking the law, egregioiusly and willingly. They have no reason whatsoever to 
expect level-headed and respectful treatment from the legitimate users of the 
trail, no more than someone trespassing knowingly on my property should expect 
civil treatment from me.



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Nick Thelen <nthelen03 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Barry Teschlog Wrote:
>
>And as Mendo Rider as said - REPORT, REPORT, REPORT bikers on the PCT to the 
>proper authorities.  Pictures, dates, descriptions, numbers, vandalism, damage, 
>etc.  Your report may be the one that provides the final clue as to when & where 
>these scofflaws typically poach, which will allow the long arm of the Law to 
>find and punish the guilty parties.
>
>
>________________________________________
>
>Good Afternoon Mr. Teshclog,
>
>Thank you very much for advising the 'Report' approach when it comes to 
>encountering another trail user you do not care for.  
>
>It is refreshing to read a such a level-headed and appropriate response.
>
>Love,
>Nick
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