[pct-l] Wood stove on PCT

[Martin M. Clark]

How is a stove Like the bush buddy ultra considered damaging to these environments? It's safer than alcohol stoves in my opinion. I don't think it shops be put in the same category as a camp fire when in reality its closer to a stove. If an alcohol stove doest follow those guidelines why should the bushbuddy?
 
Martin M. Clark
804-334-2009

On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Sir Mixalot <atetuna at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't found the map that shows restricted areas, but here's some official info.
> 
> http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/sierra/passes-permits/?cid=stelprdb5212436
> In some heavily used areas, fires are not permitted. In fragile environments, such as alpine meadows, fires leave scars for many years and deplete wood supplies. Campfires are discouraged anywhere above 9,000 feet.
> 
> http://prdp2fs.ess.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5213952.pdf
> Campfires are not permitted above 10,000 ft. north of Mt. Shinn and above 10,400 ft. south of Mt. Shinn. In addition, site specific closures include the Purple Lake drainage, North and South Forks of Big Pine Creek, Tyee Lakes, Sabrina Basin,  Kearsarge Pass, Golden Trout Lakes and Robinson Lakes drainage, Main Mt. Whitney Trail, North Fork of Lone Pine Creek, Mey san Lakes drainage, and within 1,000 feet of Anvil Camp on the Shepherd Pass trail. 
> 
> There are other areas.  For one, there's Duck Creek.  Lots of people camp there, and over time have used up most of the organic material.  It's hard to find even small twigs to get a cookfire going, much less a campfire.  That's why fires are banned in this area.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Sir Mixalot <atetuna at gmail.com> wrote:
> The rules don't allow wood burning in some areas during some parts of the year.  In parts of the Sierras, wood burning is banned in high use areas because all the organic material was getting picked clean.  The old rules previously forbid wood burning above 10k feet, but a biologist helped them refine the rules.  The ranger I was around seemed like he'd enforce it on a case by case basis.  If dead organic material was hard to find, then a fire should not be used in that area.  If you were in an area with plenty of litter and old downed trees, then you'd be following the intent of the rules, so you should be okay.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Martin M. Clark <martin.m.clark at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone have any experience with a woodstove on the PCT. I have a bushbuddy ultra I was thinking of using with a companion alcohol burner. Anyone have much thought on this? I know lint and samurai Joe used one. Just wondering what the issues are? Thanks in advance!
> 
> Martin M. Clark
> 804-334-2009
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