[pct-l] Poison Oak/Ivy & Poodle-Dog Bush on the PCT

[David Tamblyn]

From my PO experience, the oil can last a long time on just about any material until it's dissolved ( washing, time , etc) so the couch or ? could be the culprit. It's clearly nature's payback to us. Not fun, esp in hot weather. 

Dave



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On Mar 13, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Dan Engleman <danengleman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I got to experience the joys of poodledog bush rash, in 2011.  I was pretty careful on the trail.  I knew what it looked like.  I was well aware of poodle dog bushes, poison oak and ivy.  It can feel like a bit of an obstacle course, at times, but I felt like I was doing a pretty good job of being careful, that is until I left Hikertown.  It seemed like I got exposed to the poodledog scourge, while I was at Hikertown!  It is possible that I was exposed shortly before I got there.  There was another hiker at Hikertown, with poodle rash, when I got there.
>  
> I always wondered if I somehow got exposed to the poodledog "stuff" from the washing machine, or maybe one of the couches at Hikertown (not even sure if that is possible)?  What ever the case, mine emerged at my sock line and before it was all over my entire calfs were all rashed out. It is very unpleasant to say the least.  It tried to treat it, but I think time is what healed it (about 2 weeks).  
>  
> It would be intersting to know if any of the PCT-Lers have any idea if you can get the rash from someone elses hiker duds, or from a washer.  I use a cold setting when I wash my clothes, so maybe that made me more vulnerable?  
>  
> Dan
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> To: 'Melissa Cappetti' <melissa.cappetti at gmail.com>; "'pct-l at backcountry.net'" <Pct-L at backcountry.net> 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Poison Oak/Ivy & Poodle-Dog Bush on the PCT
> 
> Melissa wrote:
>> 
> I was hoping to get some pointers on how bad the Poison Oak/Ivy situation is
> along the PCT and I've heard that there is another plant to avoid as well
> [Poodle-Dog Bush (Turricula)].  I'm very allergic to Poison Oak and don't
> want to learn on the PCT what kind of reaction I could have with the
> infamous Poodle-Dog bush either.
>> 
> 
> I haven't encountered Poodle Dog bush myself but I've heard that some people
> can react to it even more violently than to poison oak.  I have no idea if a
> strong susceptibility to Poison Oak also indicates a strong susceptibility
> to Poodle Dog - I guess it depends on whether they share the same underlying
> chemical base.  Maybe someone else can speak to that.
> 
> There can be a fair amount of Poison Oak on some sections of the PCT, mostly
> in California, at elevations below 4,000 feet or so.  There might be some in
> southern Oregon but I don't think there's any in Washington (based on
> memory, could be wrong).  How much of a hassle it is depends on how recently
> a maintenance crew has gone through and cut it back.  I don't think there is
> poison ivy anywhere on the PCT.
> 
> If you react poorly to Poison Oak then I'd strongly recommend wearing long
> pants and a long-sleeved shirt in any area where you might conceivably see
> it.  You then have to worry about oils on your clothes but at least it's not
> going straight onto your skin.  You should also carry hiking poles if you
> don't already because they're useful for bending aside branches that are
> encroaching into the trail.  Again you have to worry about touching the
> poles afterwards but it's better than nothing.
> 
> I've heard good things about Zanfel for treating Poison Oak exposure.  It's
> expensive but is supposed to work well.  I'm not very sensitive to Poison
> Oak myself so I've never had to try it.
> 
> One thing to be aware of is that there are a couple of other common plants
> along the PCT that look kind of like Poison Oak to the untrained eye.  Some
> people get it confused with Squaw Bush, and of course Poison Oak often grows
> in the same place that regular oak trees grow.  The oak tree saplings can
> really freak you out until you learn to tell the difference.  If you think
> that every oak tree sapling along the trail is Poison Oak you're going to
> get pretty exhausted with all the gyrating.  The good news is that once you
> see actual Poison Oak and study it for a bit, you'll get pretty good at
> scanning the trail and knowing when to be worried and when not to be.  The
> leaves really are pretty distinctive.
> 
> Diane has a great slideshow of Poison Oak at
> http://www.santabarbarahikes.com/gorp/poisonoak/ if you want to examine
> them.
> 
> Eric
> 
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