[pct-l] Anish
Apple Pie
applepiepct03 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 4 19:26:45 CDT 2013
Anish is pretty awesome. I've had the pleasure of having her company on a stretch of the PNT last summer. I made her hike low 20's haha. : ) I hope she keeps trucking along. The Facebook page also links to a blog which gives a real insight on how hard it really is.
Apple Pie
Brighten your day! : )
www.arlettelaan.com
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> 1. Sleeping Pads (Paul Magnanti)
> 2. HIKEPLAN (hikeplan at aol.com)
> 3. Ride from Cascade Locks to Bend (Teresa Skye)
> 4. Re: Packages to Canada (joyce at beedie.com)
> 5. Re: Citizen's arrest (Dan Jacobs)
> 6. Re: Same Comcast Issue? (Hemet Hiker)
> 7. Re: Same Comcast Issue? (bob bankhead)
> 8. Comcast, etc. (Dan Jacobs)
> 9. Re: Scale? (Dan Jacobs)
> 10. Re: Hiker BBQ to meet Yoshi (Scott Williams)
> 11. Re: Citizen's arrest (Timothy Nye)
> 12. JMT Thru Hike? (Reinhold Metzger)
> 13. Hiker BBQ to meet Yoshi (Reinhold Metzger)
> 14. Good scale for weighing equipment (nbonazzoli at gmail.com)
> 15. Re: Citizen's arrest (surferskir at aol.com)
> 16. Re: Ride from Cascade Locks to Bend (Ed Jarrett)
> 17. Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (Meridith Rosendahl)
> 18. Re: Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (lilacs007 at yahoo.com)
> 19. Re: Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (Jim Banks)
> 20. Re: Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (Nicole E. Phillips)
> 21. Re: Same Comcast Issue? (Brick Robbins)
> 22. Re: Citizen's arrest (Timothy Nye)
> 23. Citizen's arrest (Nick Thelen)
> 24. Ride up Owens Valley (Paint Your Wagon)
> 25. Bakersfield to Walker Pass in August (Maxine Weyant)
> 26. Re: Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (aslive at charter.net)
> 27. Re: Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (bob bankhead)
> 28. Re: Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (Jim Banks)
> 29. Re: Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT (Carol)
> 30. FW: Dog Found on the PCT (Jim Banks)
> 31. Re: Fw: Anish "The Ghost" goes for the record. (Ben G)
> 32. Re: Vermilion Valley Resort (Ben G)
> 33. Backpack recommendations (Kristin Hamann)
> 34. Re: Backpack recommendations (marmot marmot)
> 35. Re: Backpack recommendations (Nicole E. Phillips)
> 36. VVR (Matthew Edwards)
> 37. tent repair (marmot marmot)
> 38. Ice Cave (Hemet Hiker)
> 39. FW: tent repair (marmot marmot)
> 40. Mission Outdoors (Ben G)
> 41. Re: Backpack recommendations (surferskir at aol.com)
> 42. Picking up hikers in S Lake Tahoe? (saintgimp)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:22:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Sleeping Pads
> To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Preferred sleeping pad?
> http://www.pmags.com/sleepings-pads-a-grounded-view
> ?
> It all depends?as with most things in life. :)
> ?
> ----------------------------
> Paul "Mags" Magnanti
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> The true harvest of my life is intangible.... a little stardust
> caught, a portion of the rainbow I have clutched
> --Thoreau
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:38:09 -0400 (EDT)
> From: hikeplan at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] HIKEPLAN
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hi PCT hikers! I am accepting applications for HIKEPLAN construction. It is
> my hobby wherein I have created over 700 plans for through- and section-
> hikes. Since I am too old to complete the PCT, I enjoy helping others do it
> for me. There is no charge. If interested, please contact me at
> <hikeplan at aol.com> for questionnaires to complete and return. Initially, I only need
> your entry and exit points so I can reference the proper PCT Guidebooks and
> Halfmile maps. Good hikes to all! Jack Yates
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:40:09 -0700
> From: Teresa Skye <methowskye at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Ride from Cascade Locks to Bend
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <DBC43BDF-A3EF-4DF2-99CD-C0EE60CEF7EF at gmail.com>
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> I want to hike Northern Oregon in early August, leaving a car at Cascade Locks, getting a ride to Bend, then to the trailhead.
> 1. Anyone know of a place to leave a car in Cascade Locks?
> 2. Anyone know of some transportation to Bend from Cascade Locks?
> Also, is there a list of Topo maps available for the PCT? I used to have one, can't find it. I want to download maps to my Topo app.
> Thanks!
> Skyward
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:53:42 -0600 (MDT)
> From: "joyce at beedie.com" <joyce at beedie.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Packages to Canada
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <631135932.45764.1372701222263.JavaMail.vpopmail at mail.beedie.com>
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>
> Thanks to all of you who responded about this. I went back and talked again to
> the local PO about using form PS form 2976-A and they said "well, of course!"
> You all saved me a real hassle.
>
>
> I definitely agree about not wearing high heels in general, but my husband has
> promised me a real blow-out dinner in Vancouver to celebrate the end of the
> trail and I love to get all dressed up and "girlie" for those! Otherwise it's
> Nike trainers and yoga pants around the clock.
>
> Thanks again for all the very helpful responses.
>
> Joyce
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:03:41 -0700
> From: Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <CA+-77MWXayO6K2CT5rRJLDAF5A-2ecbQj2JVNTpQRb6+9W6k3Q at mail.gmail.com>
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> A simple reading of a state's legislation on citizen's arrest is not nearly
> enough of an education on the topic.
>
> If, in the situation of bicyclists on the PCT, one decides to hold a person
> or persons, and you cannot contact law enforcement personnel, or those
> being held decide they don't want to cooperate, what then? Again, the
> simplistic language of the law isn't always enough to go by or provide
> legal protection for your actions. The Devil is in the details.
>
> Like I have said before, it's your ass. Risk it as you like. I suggest
> leaving the arresting to those trained and prepared for it, and instead
> focus on being an excellent witness and evidence gatherer.
>
> Dan Jacobs
> Washougal
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:48:50 -0400
> From: Hemet Hiker <hemethiker at outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Same Comcast Issue?
> To: Stephen Clark <rowriver at gmail.com>, Clifford McDonald
> <clifmcdon at comcast.net>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY177-W13396E57DFBFF1E7FD5A33D0770 at phx.gbl>
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> I too thought re-subscribing might help, but it didn't when I used a new Comcast address, I couldn't receive the confirmation email from the pct list server. I was successful using a Gmail account.
>
>> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 11:35:46 -0700
>> From: rowriver at gmail.com
>> To: clifmcdon at comcast.net
>> CC: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Same Comcast Issue?
>>
>> Don't know what the issue is but it seems to be affecting more than just
>> Comcast.
>> I use Time Warner and had a similar issue last week. Went about 4 or 5 days
>> without receiving anything from pct-l.
>> All my settings were correct and pct-l administrator assured me that all
>> was well on their end.
>> I ended up re-subscribing and began getting messages in about an hour.
>> Quackers
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Clifford McDonald
>> <clifmcdon at comcast.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Bob:
>>>
>>> I suspect that you are correct; the last time I spoke to Comcast I was told
>>> that they would investigate, but might not get back to me sooner than 72
>>> hours, not counting Sundays. Pct-L emails were arriving as junk / spam in
>>> my
>>> Gmail and Hot mail accounts before I identified them as safe. Emails sent
>>> from pct-l are eliminated and don't show up in any folders using Comcast.
>>>
>>> It would help a lot if I can compile a list of Comcast customers who are
>>> having problems with pct-l email issues before I complain to Comcast again.
>>> Anyone having Comcast problems, please get back to me at
>>> clifmcdon at comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Bob Bankhead [mailto:wandering_bob at comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:59 PM
>>> To: clifmcdon at comcast.net
>>> Subject: Same Comcast Issue?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clif:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Comcast is known to block websites that its software thinks are spam. I've
>>> had it happen before, and they are not very accommodating about fixing the
>>> problem. It gets a very low priority there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Bob Bankhead [mailto:wandering_bob at comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 9:45 AM
>>> To: 'pct-l at backcountry.net'
>>> Subject: Forum Issue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brick:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've not been receiving any posts to either the PCT or CDT list forums for
>>> several weeks now, although I can pull them up individually from the
>>> respective pct/cdt archives files.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've checked my account settings and they are set to receive globally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've checked my junk email settings and all 4 forums are listed as "safe
>>> senders", "safe recipients" not on "blocked senders" listing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pct-l at backcountry.net
>>>
>>> Pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>>>
>>> Cdt-l at backcountry.net
>>>
>>> Cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't figure why I'm not getting the posts. Can you please check your end
>>> and let me know what you find?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Bankhead
>>>
>>> Wandering_bob at comcast.net
>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 13:21:21 -0700
> From: "bob bankhead" <tubirrb at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Same Comcast Issue?
> To: "'Stephen Clark'" <rowriver at gmail.com>, "'Clifford McDonald'"
> <clifmcdon at comcast.net>
> Cc: 'pct-l' <pct-l at backcountry.net>, cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <003c01ce7506$3938cb40$abaa61c0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> All:
>
> AHA! When we post something TO one of the list forums, the email address it
> goes to is either: pct_l at backcountry.net or cdt-l at backcountry.net
>
>
> When we GET email postings FROM the list, it comes from
> pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net or cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>
> My Comcast email address still doesn't get the list posts, but my gmail
> address does.
>
> So ....... it looks like I'll have to depend on gmail until Comcast stops
> blocking the backcountry.net domains. Any Comcast email users may have to do
> something similar - re-registering with a non-comcast address - for the near
> future.
>
> Wandering Bob
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Stephen Clark
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:36 AM
> To: Clifford McDonald
> Cc: pct-l
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Same Comcast Issue?
>
> Don't know what the issue is but it seems to be affecting more than just
> Comcast.
> I use Time Warner and had a similar issue last week. Went about 4 or 5 days
> without receiving anything from pct-l.
> All my settings were correct and pct-l administrator assured me that all
> was well on their end.
> I ended up re-subscribing and began getting messages in about an hour.
> Quackers
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Clifford McDonald
> <clifmcdon at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Bob:
>>
>> I suspect that you are correct; the last time I spoke to Comcast I was
>> told that they would investigate, but might not get back to me sooner
>> than 72 hours, not counting Sundays. Pct-L emails were arriving as
>> junk / spam in my Gmail and Hot mail accounts before I identified them
>> as safe. Emails sent from pct-l are eliminated and don't show up in
>> any folders using Comcast.
>>
>> It would help a lot if I can compile a list of Comcast customers who
>> are having problems with pct-l email issues before I complain to Comcast
> again.
>> Anyone having Comcast problems, please get back to me at
>> clifmcdon at comcast.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:47:37 -0700
> From: Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Comcast, etc.
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <CA+-77MU-X2180s2we8WXhNunbrTJH+Wc+krpOAg=6yCNDzzWZA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> All,
>
> Comcast sucks. Many ISP's do when it comes to what they do with their email
> filters/settings, at their whim, without warming or notice.
>
> I use gmail for the following reasons:
> - it organizes list mail very well
> - Google's filters and settings work pretty well, and I have all the
> control I need to in order to get the email I want and regret those I don't
> -it works well on my smart phone, which I use for most of my email
> - and I can access it from a bunch of different computing platforms with
> internet access.
>
> It's not perfect, but it's much better than experiences I've had with past
> ISP's.
>
> If you are having trouble with your ISP's email, but don't like Google
> snooping on your mail (oh yeah, they do, your ISP, regardless of who they
> are, can easily) just use it for your email lists and nothing else. Share
> no sensitive info, use good passwords (should use good passwords everywhere
> regardless), and stop having problems with your list emails.
>
> Dan Jacobs
> Washougal
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 20:52:31 -0700
> From: Dan Jacobs <youroldpaldan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Scale?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <CA+-77MXsW+VMcRYkqtq5LhO6KOsoOMVziXRhYb8iWYbW9KgHsg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Jun 29, 2013 7:03 PM, "Matt Parker" <zerosignal74 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hey All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone got recommendations for a good cheap scale for weighing equipment,
>> food, etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Drake
>
> I got one at Walmart for ~$10. I found it in the luggage section, it has a
> hook for weighing my pack, .5 pound increments. In the kitchen section, get
> a decent kitchen scale. You can put a plate or even a sturdy plastic
> cutting board on top of it, zero it out, and weigh things reasonably well.
>
> Some digital bathroom scales also do decimals of pounds or kilos down to
> low weights.
>
> Dan Jacobs
> Washougal
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:57:00 -0700
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiker BBQ to meet Yoshi
> To: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Cc: Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net>, "Hiker97 at aol.com"
> <Hiker97 at aol.com>, Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>,
> "<Pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Monte Dodge
> <madmonte53 at gmail.com>
> Message-ID:
> <CAGxcj12nE89Xz969RFajCTvMCQxX5UQUm5Jo1S2YQpOvTbiUDw at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> JMT Reinhold is right. Yoshihiro is a great guy. Several years ago we met
> and I ferried him up to Yosemite Valley for the start of one of his
> numerous summer JMT excursions. We had so much fun spending a few days
> goofing around in Yosemite that I thought the next time he came to town,
> when I wasn't off hiking somewhere, I'd try to hook him up with a few other
> local hikers. Of course, it's hiking season right now, so most of us are
> off doing just that, but if you're around toward the end of July, come on
> by and meet Yoshihiro.
>
> Shroomer
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Reinhold Metzger
> <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>wrote:
>
>> Everything Scott said about Yoshi is true.
>>
>> He is all that and more.
>> He is just a terrific person...someone you would like to get to know.
>> So go to the BBQ if you can and meet one heck of a guy.
>> To verify what Scott and I are saying about Yoshi read the below post
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> [pct-l] YOSHI & ME on the JMT *Reinhold Metzger* reinholdmetzger at
>> cox.net
>> <pct-l%40backcountry.net?Subject=%5Bpct-l%5D%20YOSHI%20%20%26%20%20ME%20%20on%20the%20JMT&In-Reply-To=>
>> *Mon Oct 25 16:21:29 CDT 2010*
>>
>>
>> - Previous message: [pct-l] Giardia <http://041728.html>
>> - Next message: [pct-l] YOSHI & ME on the JMT <http://041751.html>
>> - *Messages sorted by:* [ date ] <http://date.html#41736> [ thread ]<http://thread.html#41736> [
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Hi gang,
>> The plan this year was to Yo -Yo the JMT, starting in August at
>> Horseshoe Meadow at medium speed and then after returning to Whitney ,
>> if I felt up to it, put this old body into overdrive and attempt a
>> sub-five unsupported JMT.
>>
>> Well, things did not go quite as planed.
>> First of all, on day one it started snowing which slowed me down.
>> Secondly, I caught up with two gorgeous hiker babes that were heading
>> for Whitney.
>> They were physical fitness instructors and there was no way not to
>> notice that.
>> They were wearing skin tight shorts and had legs like Angelina....I mean
>> there was no way to ignore them.
>> I'm sure you guys know what I am trying to say.
>> Anyway, so we hiked together for some time which also slowed me down.
>> I always hiked behind them so I could keep an eye on them to make sure
>> they would not get lost.
>> I'm sure you guys can understand that and see why that would slow me down.
>> Before I knew it I was 2 days behind schedule and realized I would have
>> to stretch my food until my resupply at Vermillion.
>>
>> Then, just south of Muir Pass, I ran into Yoshi (Yoshihiro) who was
>> doing the JMT going SB.
>> I knew Yoshi was doing the JMT and I figured we would run into each
>> other at Vermilion if I stayed on schedule.
>> Well anyhow, Yoshi is one heck of a guy, about as nice of a guy as you
>> could possibly hope to meet on the trail.
>> Yoshi broke out his stove and insisted that we share a cup of coffee on
>> the the trail and when he realized that I was running low on food he
>> insisted on giving me a loaf of home baked bread and some granola bars.
>> He would not take no for an answer and insisted.
>> Well anyhow, we had a great time sitting on the trail sharing a cup of
>> coffee and talking about the trail.
>>
>> When I finally got to Vermilion, considerably behind schedule, Jim, the
>> owner, looked at me and with a smile and said, "ahhhaaa the trouble maker".
>> Why is that the guys always consider me a trouble maker?
>> The girls don't consider me a trouble maker....they are always nice to me.
>>
>> I called my wife and she informed me that she and her sister were going
>> to Hawaii for 3+ weeks and if I wanted to come along.
>> It did not take long for me to decide that after a week on the JMT,
>> Hawaii sounds pretty good.
>> My thinking was...this is my 11th JMT thru...I can always do the
>> JMT....the opportunity to hike Hawaii and the highest mountains in the
>> world does not come along every year,
>> So, I got my resupply and headed for Yosemite and Hawaii....more on that
>> later.
>>
>> JMT Reinhold
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:03:16 -0700
> From: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
> To: "<chiefcowboy at verizon.net>" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> Cc: "<dm at quixnet.net>" <dm at quixnet.net>, "<pct-l at backcountry.net>"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <35810212-04A3-4E10-9DD1-CFD35363D30B at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I wasn't going to get involved in this thread since awhile back one of the posters was starting to take things personally, or so it seemed to me.
>
> Here's my contribution, and to riff off of "My Cousin Vinny" ( I love that movie) I am a lawyer, my wife is a lawyer, my mother was a lawyer, my father was a lawyer, my father's father was a lawyer, my daughters a lawyer....well, you get the idea.
>
> With that said, that doesn't mean my opinion is more or less valid than anyone else's and you proceed at your own risk. I just provide information. Each situation encountered generally requires a separate analysis, yet there are some basic constants in law as in life. It is these that allow us to view things in context, because looking at things in isolation is the difference between monocular and stereoscopic vision: one way provides a two dimensional view and the other way yields a three dimensional view. If you want to know what your dealing with, in law as in life,
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 1, 2013, at 6:33 AM, <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> State laws apply on federal lands too. Although state laws vary, they are quite similar in this area.
>>
>> From: surferskir at aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:23 PM
>> To: chiefcowboy at verizon.net ; dm at quixnet.net ; pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>>
>> One thing that I think we are all forgetting is that MOST of the PCT is on Federal property, and the violations are federal crimes, not necessarily State law violations.
>> So different rules apply for making a federal "Citizens arrest", which I don't know of any statues which authorize/allow this
>> --Dennis--
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: chiefcowboy <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
>> To: dm <dm at quixnet.net>; pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:36 pm
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>>
>>
>> Also know, that if a citizen "demands" an arrest, it is a misdemeanor for
>> the officer to refuse it. If the officer feels it is an invalid arrest,
>> he/she will normally advise the arresting citizen. But if the citizen
>> insists, the arrest will be made and a citation issued. The proof is
>> between the arrestor and the arrestee - not the officer.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dm
>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:45 AM
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>>
>> For thise contemplating a citizen's arrest of bikers
>> illegally on the PCT, this is from the Califirnia Penal
>> Code. OR & WA may have different versions.
>>
>> Duracell
>>
>> "How to Make a Citizen's Arrest in California
>> California Penal Code Section 837 states, "A private person
>> may arrest another: (1) For a public offense committed or
>> attempted in his presence. (2) When the person arrested has
>> committed a felony, although not in his presence. (3) When a
>> felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable
>> cause for believing the person arrested to have committed
>> it." A Public Offense is a felony, misdemeanor or
>> infraction. (PC Sec. 16). In other words, a person in
>> California who is not a law official or police officer can
>> make what is commonly called a "citizen's arrest" if he or
>> she witnesses a crime. For example, an Occupy protester who
>> witnesses someone breaking glass or painting graffiti can
>> hold an offender until police arrive. From incriminating
>> information provided by the citizen's account, police will
>> arrest the offender."
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:25:49 -0700
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] JMT Thru Hike?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> [pct-l] JMT Thru Hike?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Andr'e,
> You got some good advice so far.
> Like "Gottawalk" pointed out "it can be done".
> Not only that, but it has been done.
> I disagree, however, with "GottaWalk" that it won't be enjoyable
> with a heavy pack.
> It all depends on what you want out of your hike, what your comfort
> level is, your hiking experience and physical conditioning.
> I have seen hikers moaning & groaning with a 35lb pack and seen
> hikers happy as can be hauling 65lb packs.
> Since 1968 or 1969 I have section hiked the JMT countless times and
> "thru-hiked" it 11 times with packs weighing anywhere from 22lb to
> 85lb and I have enjoyed everyone of my JMT hikes immensely.
> Like I said the weight of your pack will be a reflection of what you
> want out of your hike and as long as the weight does not exceed your
> Physical capability you will enjoy your hike.
> On my 1st JMT "thru-hike", with the scouts,in 1996,I hauled a 75lb
> pack starting at Happy Isles and a 85lb pack after resupplying at
> the Muir Ranch.
> That was before the UL Revolution which changed everything.
> We did it in 21 days and enjoyed that JMT "thru" every bid as much
> as the ones with the 22lb packs.
> But, I was only 56 at that time and I know I could not do that now
> at 72.
>
> However, since you have a time constrain, I would encourage you to go
> as light as you can, without compromising your goal, since you will
> travel faster with a lighter pack.
>
> Listen to what Gary tells you..."20 miles a day in the Sierra is a
> lot different than 20 miles a day elsewhere.
>
> Also, you are looking at 222 miles (211 miles to Whitney, and 10.7
> miles to Whitney Portal.
>
> Scott hit it right on the head when he said..."it is truly the most
> beautiful 200+ miles in the country".
> I would like to add to that..."The JMT is like a beautiful woman,
> and once bitten forever hooked.
> I know,...I got bitten by that beautiful lady many years ago, and
> every summer since she has been calling me.
>
> As far as to answer your question..."can it be done in 14 days"?
> Hey,..if a 63 year old over the hill guy can do it in 5 days, 7 hrs
> and 45 minutes then you should be able to do it in 14 days.
>
> The following is a list of the fastest known "unsupported" JMT times.
>
> Brett Maune.........2009......3 days 14 hrs. 15 minutes
> Ian Alloway.........2009......4 days 5 hrs. 5 minutes
> Michael Popov.......2007......4 days 5 hrs. 25 minutes
> Reinhold Metzger....2004......5 days 7 hrs. 45 minutes
> John Rosendah.......1988......5 days 7 hrs. 50 minutes
> Reinhold Metzger....2003......5 days 10 hrs.
> Jaequeline Florine..2005......6 days 6 hrs. 25 minutes
>
> And then there was Catra Corbett!!!
>
> Aaahhh.....I remember Catra.
> Catra and I met on a moonlit summer night on top of Mt. Whitney.
> I was sleeping in the hut on the eve of one of my "Sub Five JMT"
> record attempts and Catra just finished the 1st leg of her JMT
> yo-yo, when Catra burst into the hut and into my life.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> Still dreaming about Catra
> -----------------------------------
> GottaWalk wrote:
> Yes, a two week JMT hike can be done and still be a wonderful, enjoyable hike.
>
> It won't be enjoyable with a heavy pack or if you aren't reasonably fit....
> GottaWalk
>
> -----------------------------
>> Andr'e wrote
>> / Hey All,
> />/
> />/ I'm planning to embark on the JMT later this summer, but sadly only have 14
> />/ days that I can afford to be on the trail. Is it possible to finish this
> />/ 200+ mile trek in such a short period of time? If not, are there portions
> />/ that I can afford to miss that will not hinder my experience too much?
> />/ Thanks for the input!!!
> //
> /
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:35:57 -0700
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Hiker BBQ to meet Yoshi
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Yoshihiro Murakami
> <completewalker at gmail.com>, Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>,
> Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net>, Edward Anderson
> <mendoridered at yahoo.com>, Monte Dodge <madmonte53 at gmail.com>,
> "Hiker97 at aol.com" <Hiker97 at aol.com>
> Message-ID: <51CFC3BD.1000604 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> [pct-l] YOSHI & ME on the JMT
>
>
> Everything Scott said about Yoshi is true.
>
> He is all that and more.
> He is just a terrific person...someone you would like to get to know.
> So go to the BBQ if you can and meet one heck of a guy.
> To verify what Scott and I are saying about Yoshi read the below post
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> [pct-l] YOSHI & ME on the JMT
>
> *Reinhold Metzger* reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> <mailto:pct-l%40backcountry.net?Subject=%5Bpct-l%5D%20YOSHI%20%20%26%20%20ME%20%20on%20the%20JMT&In-Reply-To=>
> /Mon Oct 25 16:21:29 CDT 2010/
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi gang,
> The plan this year was to Yo -Yo the JMT, starting in August at
> Horseshoe Meadow at medium speed and then after returning to Whitney ,
> if I felt up to it, put this old body into overdrive and attempt a
> sub-five unsupported JMT.
>
> Well, things did not go quite as planed.
> First of all, on day one it started snowing which slowed me down.
> Secondly, I caught up with two gorgeous hiker babes that were heading
> for Whitney.
> They were physical fitness instructors and there was no way not to
> notice that.
> They were wearing skin tight shorts and had legs like Angelina....I mean
> there was no way to ignore them.
> I'm sure you guys know what I am trying to say.
> Anyway, so we hiked together for some time which also slowed me down.
> I always hiked behind them so I could keep an eye on them to make sure
> they would not get lost.
> I'm sure you guys can understand that and see why that would slow me down.
> Before I knew it I was 2 days behind schedule and realized I would have
> to stretch my food until my resupply at Vermillion.
>
> Then, just south of Muir Pass, I ran into Yoshi (Yoshihiro) who was
> doing the JMT going SB.
> I knew Yoshi was doing the JMT and I figured we would run into each
> other at Vermilion if I stayed on schedule.
> Well anyhow, Yoshi is one heck of a guy, about as nice of a guy as you
> could possibly hope to meet on the trail.
> Yoshi broke out his stove and insisted that we share a cup of coffee on
> the the trail and when he realized that I was running low on food he
> insisted on giving me a loaf of home baked bread and some granola bars.
> He would not take no for an answer and insisted.
> Well anyhow, we had a great time sitting on the trail sharing a cup of
> coffee and talking about the trail.
>
> When I finally got to Vermilion, considerably behind schedule, Jim, the
> owner, looked at me and with a smile and said, "ahhhaaa the trouble maker".
> Why is that the guys always consider me a trouble maker?
> The girls don't consider me a trouble maker....they are always nice to me.
>
> I called my wife and she informed me that she and her sister were going
> to Hawaii for 3+ weeks and if I wanted to come along.
> It did not take long for me to decide that after a week on the JMT,
> Hawaii sounds pretty good.
> My thinking was...this is my 11th JMT thru...I can always do the
> JMT....the opportunity to hike Hawaii and the highest mountains in the
> world does not come along every year,
> So, I got my resupply and headed for Yosemite and Hawaii....more on that
> later.
>
> JMT Reinhold
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:37:57 -0700
> From: nbonazzoli at gmail.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Good scale for weighing equipment
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <B724914C-AF6C-465C-89A8-2D01F62758BA at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I use a KD7000 scale from
>
> http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-kd7000-black.html
>
> I've been using this scale since '08 and it is extremely accurate and
> reliable, and for such a high quality scale I think that the price is
> just right.
> I also use a hanging luggage scale I purchased from TJ Maxx to weigh
> the backpack once it's packed up. Both make a great combination.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mystic Forest
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
> From: surferskir at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
> To: chiefcowboy at verizon.net, dm at quixnet.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <8D044AAA35145E0-E68-5DCB4 at webmail-vm013.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Chief--
> What I am trying to say is : It is probably NOT against the state law to ride a bicycle on the PCT. Since the Wilderness Act is a Federal law that prohibits mechanized vehicles on trails in the wilderness areas, it is probably NOT against state laws.
> So for the citizens arrest you would have to contact a Federal officer, not the local deputy sheriff (Since the PCT doesn't pass through many incorporated cities). The MTB is perhaps not breaking any state laws by riding on the wilderness trails.
> And under Federal law is a citizen's arrest allowable? Are there applicable Federal codes?
> Maybe one of the attorneys along this thread can answer that one.
>
> --Dennis--
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chiefcowboy <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> To: surferskir <surferskir at aol.com>; dm <dm at quixnet.net>; pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Mon, Jul 1, 2013 6:33 am
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>
>
>
>
> State laws apply on federal lands too. Although state laws vary, they are quite similar in this area.
>
>
>
> From: surferskir at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:23 PM
> To: chiefcowboy at verizon.net ; dm at quixnet.net ; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>
>
> One thing that I think we are all forgetting is that MOST of the PCT is on Federal property, and the violations are federal crimes, not necessarily State law violations.
> So different rules apply for making a federal "Citizens arrest", which I don't know of any statues which authorize/allow this
>
> --Dennis--
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chiefcowboy <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> To: dm <dm at quixnet.net>; pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:36 pm
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>
>
> Also know, that if a citizen "demands" an arrest, it is a misdemeanor for
> the officer to refuse it. If the officer feels it is an invalid arrest,
> he/she will normally advise the arresting citizen. But if the citizen
> insists, the arrest will be made and a citation issued. The proof is
> between the arrestor and the arrestee - not the officer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dm
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:45 AM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>
> For thise contemplating a citizen's arrest of bikers
> illegally on the PCT, this is from the Califirnia Penal
> Code. OR & WA may have different versions.
>
> Duracell
>
> "How to Make a Citizen's Arrest in California
> California Penal Code Section 837 states, "A private person
> may arrest another: (1) For a public offense committed or
> attempted in his presence. (2) When the person arrested has
> committed a felony, although not in his presence. (3) When a
> felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable
> cause for believing the person arrested to have committed
> it." A Public Offense is a felony, misdemeanor or
> infraction. (PC Sec. 16). In other words, a person in
> California who is not a law official or police officer can
> make what is commonly called a "citizen's arrest" if he or
> she witnesses a crime. For example, an Occupy protester who
> witnesses someone breaking glass or painting graffiti can
> hold an offender until police arrive. From incriminating
> information provided by the citizen's account, police will
> arrest the offender."
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:19:22 -0700
> From: Ed Jarrett <edjarrett at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ride from Cascade Locks to Bend
> To: PCT List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU169-W14B132B4F68EF330A59DAFAA710 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Take a look at the halfmile PCT maps. They come in a number of digital formats and may work with you app.
> http://www.pctmap.net/download/
>
> Ed Jarrett (Eeyore)Blog: http://aclayjar.blogspot.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/EdJarrett53 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ed.jarrett.71
>
>> From: methowskye at gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:40:09 -0700
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Ride from Cascade Locks to Bend
>>
>> I want to hike Northern Oregon in early August, leaving a car at Cascade Locks, getting a ride to Bend, then to the trailhead.
>> 1. Anyone know of a place to leave a car in Cascade Locks?
>> 2. Anyone know of some transportation to Bend from Cascade Locks?
>> Also, is there a list of Topo maps available for the PCT? I used to have one, can't find it. I want to download maps to my Topo app.
>> Thanks!
>> Skyward
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:50:42 -0700
> From: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> Last Wednesday a dog was reported abandoned or lost on the Pacific Crest
> Trail north of Belden. He was covered with burrs and had very sore feet. On
> Saturday, June 29, Henry, Bogie Fingers, Catch-Up and Grease came upon the
> dog and found him in pretty bad shape. Very skinny under all that fur,
> frightened, and sore. He didn't want to be caught and got into a creek
> where the guys were able to get him out. They fed him what they could from
> their packs and finally decided that they had to get him out of there. So
> they loaded him on their shoulders and took turns carrying him back to
> Belden. They took him to the Caribou Store and the owners there promised to
> find him a new home, and possibly keep him. He's a very sweet dog, even
> tempered and gentle, and if someone abandoned him they should be boiled in
> oil. These four guys are my heroes. I am so very proud of them for taking
> the time, and effort to carry him (and lead him part of the way) the miles
> back to safety.
>
> Here are some photos, one taken by the original person who found him and
> posted a photo on PCT's facebook page, and two by the hikers who rescued
> him, and one of the hikers.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/Meridith59/LostAndFound?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
> Piper's Mom
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 23:18:51 +0000
> From: lilacs007 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: "Meridith Rosendahl" <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>, "Pacific
> crest trail PCT Listserve" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> This makes me so angry!!!!
>
> I hope this was an accident.
>
> Thank god for those guys :)
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
> Sender: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:50:42
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
>
> Last Wednesday a dog was reported abandoned or lost on the Pacific Crest
> Trail north of Belden. He was covered with burrs and had very sore feet. On
> Saturday, June 29, Henry, Bogie Fingers, Catch-Up and Grease came upon the
> dog and found him in pretty bad shape. Very skinny under all that fur,
> frightened, and sore. He didn't want to be caught and got into a creek
> where the guys were able to get him out. They fed him what they could from
> their packs and finally decided that they had to get him out of there. So
> they loaded him on their shoulders and took turns carrying him back to
> Belden. They took him to the Caribou Store and the owners there promised to
> find him a new home, and possibly keep him. He's a very sweet dog, even
> tempered and gentle, and if someone abandoned him they should be boiled in
> oil. These four guys are my heroes. I am so very proud of them for taking
> the time, and effort to carry him (and lead him part of the way) the miles
> back to safety.
>
> Here are some photos, one taken by the original person who found him and
> posted a photo on PCT's facebook page, and two by the hikers who rescued
> him, and one of the hikers.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/Meridith59/LostAndFound?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
> Piper's Mom
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:49:49 -0700
> From: "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
> A big thank you is in order for Henry, Bogie Fingers, Catch-Up and Grease.
> You did the right thing. Thank you!!!
>
> I hope the dog gets a good home.
>
> I-Beam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Meridith Rosendahl
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 2:51 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
>
> Last Wednesday a dog was reported abandoned or lost on the Pacific Crest
> Trail north of Belden. He was covered with burrs and had very sore feet. On
> Saturday, June 29, Henry, Bogie Fingers, Catch-Up and Grease came upon the
> dog and found him in pretty bad shape. Very skinny under all that fur,
> frightened, and sore. He didn't want to be caught and got into a creek where
> the guys were able to get him out. They fed him what they could from their
> packs and finally decided that they had to get him out of there. So they
> loaded him on their shoulders and took turns carrying him back to Belden.
> They took him to the Caribou Store and the owners there promised to find him
> a new home, and possibly keep him. He's a very sweet dog, even tempered and
> gentle, and if someone abandoned him they should be boiled in oil. These
> four guys are my heroes. I am so very proud of them for taking the time, and
> effort to carry him (and lead him part of the way) the miles back to safety.
>
> Here are some photos, one taken by the original person who found him and
> posted a photo on PCT's facebook page, and two by the hikers who rescued
> him, and one of the hikers.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/Meridith59/LostAndFound?authuser=0&feat=directl
> ink
>
> Piper's Mom
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>
> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 20:18:48 -0400
> From: "Nicole E. Phillips" <nephils at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>, pct-l
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> This breaks my heart. Thank goodness for the 4 folks who put aside their
> own needs to help the poor pup. I don't see how it could possibly be an
> accident to abandon your dog but I hope it was.
> On Jul 1, 2013 5:50 PM, "Meridith Rosendahl" <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Last Wednesday a dog was reported abandoned or lost on the Pacific Crest
>> Trail north of Belden. He was covered with burrs and had very sore feet. On
>> Saturday, June 29, Henry, Bogie Fingers, Catch-Up and Grease came upon the
>> dog and found him in pretty bad shape. Very skinny under all that fur,
>> frightened, and sore. He didn't want to be caught and got into a creek
>> where the guys were able to get him out. They fed him what they could from
>> their packs and finally decided that they had to get him out of there. So
>> they loaded him on their shoulders and took turns carrying him back to
>> Belden. They took him to the Caribou Store and the owners there promised to
>> find him a new home, and possibly keep him. He's a very sweet dog, even
>> tempered and gentle, and if someone abandoned him they should be boiled in
>> oil. These four guys are my heroes. I am so very proud of them for taking
>> the time, and effort to carry him (and lead him part of the way) the miles
>> back to safety.
>>
>> Here are some photos, one taken by the original person who found him and
>> posted a photo on PCT's facebook page, and two by the hikers who rescued
>> him, and one of the hikers.
>>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/Meridith59/LostAndFound?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>>
>> Piper's Mom
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:42:08 -0700
> From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Same Comcast Issue?
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>, cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <CALV1Nz==-VQxnmUJ6vRXvbnx_4tQzcFOsK5zVBcC3bUYSutMzw at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 1:21 PM, bob bankhead <tubirrb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> AHA! When we post something TO one of the list forums, the email address it
>> goes to is either: pct_l at backcountry.net or cdt-l at backcountry.net
>
> Not Quite:
> Mail to the list goes to: PCT-L at backcountry.net (the capitalization
> does't matter)
>
> The "From" address, is from whoever sent it
>
> the "return-path:" is pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>
> All of those have different meanings but none of them have anything to
> do with Comcast blocking things. They are probably blocking them based
> on the Server's IP address
>
>
>> When we GET email postings FROM the list, it comes from
>> pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net or cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>>
>> My Comcast email address still doesn't get the list posts, but my gmail
>> address does.
>>
>> So ....... it looks like I'll have to depend on gmail until Comcast stops
>> blocking the backcountry.net domains. Any Comcast email users may have to do
>> something similar - re-registering with a non-comcast address - for the near
>> future.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:43:04 -0700
> From: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
> To: "<chiefcowboy at verizon.net>" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
> Cc: "<dm at quixnet.net>" <dm at quixnet.net>, "<pct-l at backcountry.net>"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <7F2B1BA2-BE29-453A-8C88-4557D6681C17 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Well, I meant to delete that since it was sounding a more than a little sanctimonious and, of course, I inadvertently hit the wrong button. Damn.
>
> At any rate, the point is that there are, in fact four separate jurisdictions involved with the trail. As was previously noted, in addition to the three states, there are federal enclaves where state jurisdiction does not extend, but that isn't demarcated by whether or not the lands are federally controlled. National Parks, on the other hand, are federal enclaves and Yosemite, for example, has it's own jail, prosecutor and federal magistrate.
>
> To return to a previous post, however, assault and battery are not just crimes. They are also torts which give rise to civil causes of action for damages to those harmed. Both, of course, can be pursued concurrently. An assault is where one is put in fear of an imminent battery, or touching, by another. A battery is the actual touching.
>
> When a tort is caused by someone committing an illegal act, whether felony, misdemeanor or infraction, it is presumed that the wrong doer is the party at fault and thus responsible and liable for damages in any civil proceeding. This presumption is referred to as "negligence per se". In a "he said, she said" type of situation on the trail that should resolve things rather nicely in a hiker's favor. It's also helpful to note that a negligence per se determination doesn't require an actual successful criminal prosecution to have taken place. Such prosecutions are irrelevant to a civil proceeding. Since there are different standards of proof in criminal versus civil trials, with a less stringent standard in civil proceedings,that is, whether something happened is 'more likely than not' as opposed to its occurrence being 'beyond a reasonable doubt', a separate determination is made in the civil proceedings as to whether a violation occurred.
>
> Also, it seems handy to me that so many MTBs wear helmet mounted cameras. In the event of litigation those would seem to take care of everything. If they were tampered with, deleted, etc., that could amount to evidence despoliation and otherwise be construed as evidence against a MTB. In fact, if a MTB has such a camera, but isn't wearing it, then that could be argued to show consciousness of fault.
>
> Just a few thoughts which should not be construed as legal advice.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 1, 2013, at 6:33 AM, <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> State laws apply on federal lands too. Although state laws vary, they are quite similar in this area.
>>
>> From: surferskir at aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:23 PM
>> To: chiefcowboy at verizon.net ; dm at quixnet.net ; pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>>
>> One thing that I think we are all forgetting is that MOST of the PCT is on Federal property, and the violations are federal crimes, not necessarily State law violations.
>> So different rules apply for making a federal "Citizens arrest", which I don't know of any statues which authorize/allow this
>> --Dennis--
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: chiefcowboy <chiefcowboy at verizon.net>
>> To: dm <dm at quixnet.net>; pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:36 pm
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>>
>>
>> Also know, that if a citizen "demands" an arrest, it is a misdemeanor for
>> the officer to refuse it. If the officer feels it is an invalid arrest,
>> he/she will normally advise the arresting citizen. But if the citizen
>> insists, the arrest will be made and a citation issued. The proof is
>> between the arrestor and the arrestee - not the officer.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dm
>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:45 AM
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
>>
>> For thise contemplating a citizen's arrest of bikers
>> illegally on the PCT, this is from the Califirnia Penal
>> Code. OR & WA may have different versions.
>>
>> Duracell
>>
>> "How to Make a Citizen's Arrest in California
>> California Penal Code Section 837 states, "A private person
>> may arrest another: (1) For a public offense committed or
>> attempted in his presence. (2) When the person arrested has
>> committed a felony, although not in his presence. (3) When a
>> felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable
>> cause for believing the person arrested to have committed
>> it." A Public Offense is a felony, misdemeanor or
>> infraction. (PC Sec. 16). In other words, a person in
>> California who is not a law official or police officer can
>> make what is commonly called a "citizen's arrest" if he or
>> she witnesses a crime. For example, an Occupy protester who
>> witnesses someone breaking glass or painting graffiti can
>> hold an offender until police arrive. From incriminating
>> information provided by the citizen's account, police will
>> arrest the offender."
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:23:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nick Thelen <nthelen03 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Citizen's arrest
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <1372713803.98436.YahooMailNeo at web121802.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> so, for the very few of you 'half' advocating that a Citizen's arrest is warranted when?
> encountering a bicycle on the PCT....
>
> How the devil do you transport the offender to a LEO if you cannot call anyone (no cell service).
>
> Better yet, how on earth are you realistically going to get a cyclist to walk back to a trailhead?
> with you, for let's say 15 miles?
>
> I understand its fun to go about these little "what I would do" situations - but they are far from realistic.
>
> But I believe there are a couple of y'all that would actually attempt this, and I look forward to reading about it in the news.
>
> So please....someone try it out and see how it works ;^) ?<--- notice the 'winky'
>
> Love,
> Nick
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:38:42 -0700
> From: Paint Your Wagon <n801yz at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Ride up Owens Valley
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3755FF25680D136C386F70E9B720 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Quackers, I'd like a ride with you Tuesday. I sent a message (e mail) to you direct (offline) Thanks, PaintYW
> Sent from Huawei Mobile
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 00:43:53 -0700
> From: Maxine Weyant <weyantm at msn.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Bakersfield to Walker Pass in August
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP42827493AB0BEE6346235ABB8720 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Hi All,
> Am looking for a ride from the Bakersfield Airport on Fri Aug 9 at around 5:15-5:30 pm to Walker Pass. Will happily pay for time and gas.
>
> While I guess I could contact all the local taxi services, I'm hoping I'd be able to send 1 or 2 4oz cans of canister fuel (IsoPro) via ground to whomever picks me up, so I don't have to get myself to a gear store that late in the day.
>
> Yes, I'm aware of the bus to Lake Isabella, get to Onyx, and hitch from there option, but I don't have a lot of extra time, and it'll be late enough already to be hitching. If you will have just gotten off work that time of day, I'd include a dinner en route. Hate to make someone miss a meal?..
>
> Dys-feng shui-nal
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:09:03 -0400 (EDT)
> From: aslive at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: "Nicole E. Phillips" <nephils at gmail.com>
> Cc: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>, pct-l
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <32fd9cc1.98a034.13fa1a579b4.Webtop.43 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no
>
> Wow! What a terrible and wonderful thing to have happened to that poor
> dog. The original owner has some baaad Karma a coming while I hope that
> only good things come the way of the four heroes. Thank you guys.
>
> Shepherd
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Nicole E. Phillips wrote:
>
>> This breaks my heart. Thank goodness for the 4 folks who put aside
>> their
>> own needs to help the poor pup. I don't see how it could possibly be
>> an
>> accident to abandon your dog but I hope it was.
>> On Jul 1, 2013 5:50 PM, "Meridith Rosendahl"
>> <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Last Wednesday a dog was reported abandoned or lost on the Pacific
>>> Crest
>>> Trail north of Belden. He was covered with burrs and had very sore
>>> feet. On
>>> Saturday, June 29, Henry, Bogie Fingers, Catch-Up and Grease came
>>> upon the
>>> dog and found him in pretty bad shape. Very skinny under all that
>>> fur,
>>> frightened, and sore. He didn't want to be caught and got into a
>>> creek
>>> where the guys were able to get him out. They fed him what they could
>>> from
>>> their packs and finally decided that they had to get him out of
>>> there. So
>>> they loaded him on their shoulders and took turns carrying him back
>>> to
>>> Belden. They took him to the Caribou Store and the owners there
>>> promised to
>>> find him a new home, and possibly keep him. He's a very sweet dog,
>>> even
>>> tempered and gentle, and if someone abandoned him they should be
>>> boiled in
>>> oil. These four guys are my heroes. I am so very proud of them for
>>> taking
>>> the time, and effort to carry him (and lead him part of the way) the
>>> miles
>>> back to safety.
>>>
>>> Here are some photos, one taken by the original person who found him
>>> and
>>> posted a photo on PCT's facebook page, and two by the hikers who
>>> rescued
>>> him, and one of the hikers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/Meridith59/LostAndFound?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>>>
>>> Piper's Mom
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:29:10 -0700
> From: "bob bankhead" <tubirrb at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: "PCT List Forum" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <001d01ce777b$f5327310$df975930$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I have seen nothing to prove the dog was abandoned as opposed to having
> simply run off and gotten lost.
>
> Fortunately, the animal encountered folks willing and able to help.
>
> The dog's owner may even now be searching or grieving for it.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:34:33 -0700
> From: "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: "'PCT List Forum'" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <007b01ce7785$1743d440$45cb7cc0$@rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> This am I spoke to someone at the store that took the dog. One of the
> employees is taking care of him now and the dog seems to be doing fine. If
> the owner cannot be found, the employee will probably keep the dog himself.
>
> A big thank you to the store operators and the employee, as well as the 4
> hikers who brought him in. All of us animal lovers are very appreciative of
> what you did.
>
> I-Beam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of bob bankhead
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:29 PM
> To: PCT List Forum
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
>
> I have seen nothing to prove the dog was abandoned as opposed to having
> simply run off and gotten lost.
>
> Fortunately, the animal encountered folks willing and able to help.
>
> The dog's owner may even now be searching or grieving for it.
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:37:19 -0500
> From: Carol <museumgirl at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lost (and found) Dog on the PCT
> To: Meridith Rosendahl <meridith.rosendahl at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <0D983DEC-AE2E-4D5A-98DD-4DCEEC3B8A68 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Okay, ladies. I'm too old for any of these gentlemen, but that qualifies me to tell any of you who are their age: If any one of them is available, grab him, because they are all keepers.
>
> Good job, guys.
>
> Muse
>
> On Jul 1, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Meridith Rosendahl wrote:
>
>> Last Wednesday a dog was reported abandoned or lost on the Pacific Crest
>> Trail north of Belden. He was covered with burrs and had very sore feet. On
>> Saturday, June 29, Henry, Bogie Fingers, Catch-Up and Grease came upon the
>> dog and found him in pretty bad shape. Very skinny under all that fur,
>> frightened, and sore. He didn't want to be caught and got into a creek
>> where the guys were able to get him out. They fed him what they could from
>> their packs and finally decided that they had to get him out of there. So
>> they loaded him on their shoulders and took turns carrying him back to
>> Belden. They took him to the Caribou Store and the owners there promised to
>> find him a new home, and possibly keep him. He's a very sweet dog, even
>> tempered and gentle, and if someone abandoned him they should be boiled in
>> oil. These four guys are my heroes. I am so very proud of them for taking
>> the time, and effort to carry him (and lead him part of the way) the miles
>> back to safety.
>>
>> Here are some photos, one taken by the original person who found him and
>> posted a photo on PCT's facebook page, and two by the hikers who rescued
>> him, and one of the hikers.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/Meridith59/LostAndFound?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>>
>> Piper's Mom
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Pct-L at backcountry.net
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>
> "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." Philo of Alexandria, c. 20 BCE ? 50 CE
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:30:35 -0700
> From: "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] FW: Dog Found on the PCT
> To: "'PCT List Forum'" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <008701ce7795$4cf57430$e6e05c90$@rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Here is the email I got from Pam Hanson at the Caribou Crossroads store, the
> place where the 4 guys took the dog. Forwarded with her permission.
>
>
>
> I-Beam
>
>
>
> From: Pam & Mike Hanson [mailto:cariboucrossroads at comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:30 PM
> To: Jim Banks
> Subject: Re: Dog Found on the PCT
>
>
>
> Hi Jim -
>
> I last saw him on Sunday and he appeared to be in good shape. He was given a
> bath and I think that made him feel better immediately! He has - or had! -
> fairly long hair that was quite matted and just a mess. A couple of our
> employees took him under their wing, and gave him a bit of a haircut. One of
> our employees took him to their home this week and I think he was going to
> have him looked at by a vet. Hopefully we'll know more in a couple of days.
>
>
>
> All in all, he appears to be doing well! We were hoping that perhaps he was
> lost and someone would come looking for him, but so far that hasn't
> happened. Thanks for inquiring about his well-being. If you see Ketchup and
> his three buddies, let them know all is good and 'LT' thanks them for their
> assistance!
>
>
>
> Happy trails to you -
>
> Pam Hanson
>
> Caribou Crossroads
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jim Banks <mailto:jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
>
> To: cariboucrossroads at comcast.net
>
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 8:03 PM
>
> Subject: Dog Found on the PCT
>
>
>
> I heard about the dog that the hikers found on the PCT. Are you the store
> that agreed to take him in? If so, how is he doing? Does he need to see a
> vet?
>
>
>
> PCT hiker, Jim Banks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 31
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:41:46 -0700
> From: Ben G <bengrunbaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw: Anish "The Ghost" goes for the record.
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <CACuENdXZSQ=CwrbaifjBvay-f58AVL=3FOZLPBTGJZ6vE+N9rQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I met her on the top of mather Pass. She was taking a break to allow her
> socks and feet to dry . She had already done pinchot and was planning on
> doing Muir pass. It was 130 in the afternoon on the 25 or 26 when I met
> her. She had a very sound plan. Do 45 mile average days (just above the
> average per day for the whole trail) in the Sierras and do far more than
> that everywhere else. If she can take care of her body she will beat the
> record by quite a bit I'm thinking. She was a very beautiful and nice
> girl who is obviously very competitive. hiking the PCT in 4 months in 2005
> was clearly not good enough for her. I am glad I met her. look forward to
> keeping track of her progress.
> Ben
> On Jun 16, 2013 5:20 PM, "Ken Powers" <ken at gottawalk.com> wrote:
>
>> Ahh, but Anish is her trail name.
>>
>> Here is a more about her hike:
>> https://www.facebook.com/AnishHikes?ref=ts&fref=ts
>>
>> Ken
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paint Your Wagon Hikes" <n801yz at hotmail.com>
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:27 PM
>> Subject: [pct-l] Anish "The Ghost" goes for the record.
>>
>>
>> Met a lady thru hiking around 2:30 pm last Tuesday (11 June), at about mile
>> 155, just north of Palms to Pines highway, on the PCT as it entered Penrod
>> Canyon. My friend and hiking bro; Evil Goat, asked her when she left the
>> border. Anish, aged 31, and hailing from Washington state, answered that
>> she
>> had left the border the previous Saturday (08 June). Evil Goat was quick to
>> surmise what she was up to, and asked her if she was going for the record,
>> in which she replied in the affirmative. I might point out that this was
>> the
>> middle of the afternoon of her fourth day of hiking and we were
>> chit-chatting with her at mile 155!
>> I offered her a choice between a lime or orange flavored Powerade
>> (1-liter).
>> Anish opted for the orange flavored drink, which she quickly downed. Evil
>> Goat checked her pack weight, estimating it at about 25 lbs. She was asked
>> if she was going cook-less and she said yes. She finished the drink and all
>> but disappeared, leaving only her tracks to follow. Estimating... she
>> should
>> be around mile 360 at the end of today, which would be in the
>> Wrightwood/Inspiration Point area of the trail.
>> Now you see her, and... now you don't. Anish "The Ghost" seemed like a
>> worthy trail name, but who am I to say. I wish her the best as she takes on
>> the task of breaking Scott Williamson's record. Time will tell.
>> PaintYWPCT2012/2013
>> PS Her trail shoe tread is of note; a cleated one, with the outline of a
>> shape similar to a child's footprint in the center of the impression and
>> toe
>> imprints similar to a human's or bear's, at the toe box of the shoe-print.
>> I
>> tracked this unique signature onto Mt. San Jacinto, only to lose it in the
>> heavy traffic, regaining it coming down Fuller Ridge, and lastly at the
>> Snow
>> Creek faucet.
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> Message: 32
> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 23:09:51 -0700
> From: Ben G <bengrunbaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Vermilion Valley Resort
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Jackass and Molasses are working there. Jackass's experience in the kitchen
> and as a graduate of the Culinary institute of America is quite evident. I
> am sure he would love to see you all.
> Shroomer- he specifically hoped you would make it by when I mentioned you
> commented on my post.
> I hope both jackass and molasses can complete the whole PCT this next year
> without the financial, physical and familial complications that has ended
> their last few attempts. They both seem like wonderful people who are
> making the most out of difficult situations they were presented with in the
> past. I am glad I met them and and I do miss the cherry tomato and avocado
> salad that jackass made . I've been dreaming about that last 10 days
> On Jun 24, 2013 5:40 PM, "Yoshihiro Murakami" <completewalker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I went VVR 4 times, staying 3 nights each year, except last summer ( The
>> schedule was very tight, because I had to meed my wife at Bishop. I stayed
>> only one night.). I studied intensely the hikers barrel, which was full of
>> hikers foods of America. I looked into the barrel around three times in a
>> day, picked up food, and inspected and tasted, because all provoked my
>> curiosity . I memorized some food name. Energy bar was good, but other food
>> tasted bad for me. Especially, Maruchan Ramen tasted hell. I think
>> Maruchan in America is completely different from Maruchan in Japan.
>>
>> I do not drink alcohol, so I have no special interest of free beer. Last
>> summer, I was asked to pick up the free beer. Therefore, I went to the
>> refrigerator, and searched the beer. But, I could not find out the beer,
>> because there is no can indicated "Beer". The can I picked up was a soft
>> drink. So, my fist trial failed. Next time, I will do better.
>>
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> Message: 33
> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:50:59 -0700
> From: Kristin Hamann <aggie03.kh at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Backpack recommendations
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Wondering if any gals out there could weigh in on their favorite pack for a
> thru-hike. I am a little leery of unisex packs like the ULAs but would be
> curious what other women have found. My base pack weight is around 18 lb so
> I'm not sure an ultralight pack will be my best bet. I am replacing my
> Gregory Jade 50 which has been a faithful companion for many years but is
> now held together with cord. Looking for something in the 40-50L range
> around or under 3lb. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Cheers!
> k
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
>
>
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> Message: 34
> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 19:22:14 -0700
> From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpack recommendations
> To: Kristin Hamann <aggie03.kh at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU404-EAS311330D3BA3AB7744B3842EC87C0 at phx.gbl>
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> Used Dana Direct for AT-No
> McHale for PCT,CDT ----No
> ULA for.GDT,2nd PCT, AZT etc,etc,etc. YES!!!!
> Bought it when Brian had the company. I wore it til it got too much UV damage then patched it and wore it some more. I'm now looking at a lighter pack. Haven't decided which one
> Marmot
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 6:52 PM, "Kristin Hamann" <aggie03.kh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wondering if any gals out there could weigh in on their favorite pack for a
>> thru-hike. I am a little leery of unisex packs like the ULAs but would be
>> curious what other women have found. My base pack weight is around 18 lb so
>> I'm not sure an ultralight pack will be my best bet. I am replacing my
>> Gregory Jade 50 which has been a faithful companion for many years but is
>> now held together with cord. Looking for something in the 40-50L range
>> around or under 3lb. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> k
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
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> Message: 35
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 01:44:17 -0400
> From: "Nicole E. Phillips" <nephils at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpack recommendations
> To: Kristin Hamann <aggie03.kh at gmail.com>, pct-l
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I plan to use the osprey aura 65 which is just over 3.5 lbs. You could try
> the aura 50 which is just over 3 lbs. I've heard great things about the
> series, although I haven't used it on a thru hike yet.
> On Jul 3, 2013 9:52 PM, "Kristin Hamann" <aggie03.kh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wondering if any gals out there could weigh in on their favorite pack for a
>> thru-hike. I am a little leery of unisex packs like the ULAs but would be
>> curious what other women have found. My base pack weight is around 18 lb so
>> I'm not sure an ultralight pack will be my best bet. I am replacing my
>> Gregory Jade 50 which has been a faithful companion for many years but is
>> now held together with cord. Looking for something in the 40-50L range
>> around or under 3lb. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> k
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
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> Message: 36
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 07:48:11 -0700
> From: Matthew Edwards <iceaxehikes at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] VVR
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Jackass and Molases at VVR!
>
> That is great news.
> I met them on the PCT in '09 and again at Stehekin where they both lived
> and worked.
> I can attest to the quality of Jackass's food.
>
> Super nice people.
> This news made my day!
>
> -iceaxe
>
>
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> Message: 37
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:54:26 +0000
> From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] tent repair
> To: "pct-l @backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Does anyone know of resource for tent repair in LA area? I have a Bilgy that needs the zipper replaced and don't have time to do it myself. Don't really want to send it to Wash. for such a simple repair.That has been the only suggestion I have gotten from backpacking stores around here.Marmot
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 38
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 13:36:52 -0400
> From: Hemet Hiker <hemethiker at outlook.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Ice Cave
> To: "pct-l @backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY177-W40FD0CC26F52FC6A7A511FD07C0 at phx.gbl>
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> Today on my Bing Desktop there is an awesome picture taken from inside an ice cave over a steam in Oregon's 3 Sisters wilderness. I sure wouldn't want to fall through one of these. For those not familiar with Bing, subscribers get a different desktop picture downloaded to their computer everyday.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 39
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 18:04:42 +0000
> From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] FW: tent repair
> To: "pct-l @backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU176-W217F1DD5278A639A2C35C2C87C0 at phx.gbl>
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>
>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tent repair
>> From: marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com
>> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:42:43 -0700
>> To: GottaWalk at pacbell.net
>>
>> Thank you for suggestions. Have done all that many miles ago I have repaired it so many times,it is time for new zipper. Next I will get new tent, but for now I just need a new zipper. Hi Marcia Marmot
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:35 AM, "Marcia Powers" <GottaWalk at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I asked Six Moons' Ron Moak if he would replace the zipper in my tent. He said no, but suggested for me to replace the slide. When the teeth of the zipper don't mesh and the zipper doesn't stay zipped is an indication of the slide gradually spreading apart so it needs to be gently pinched together or replaced. You might want to try that first...nothing to lose and possibly something to gain. The next step would be to snip the tape holding the teeth, remove the slide, replace a new slide and stitch the tape.
>>>
>>> GottaWalk
>>>
>>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:54 AM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of resource for tent repair in LA area? I have a Bilgy that needs the zipper replaced and don't have time to do it myself. Don't really want to send it to Wash. for such a simple repair.That has been the only suggestion I have gotten from backpacking stores around here.Marmot
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> Message: 40
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:56:35 -0700
> From: Ben G <bengrunbaum at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Mission Outdoors
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I wanted to share this interesting article with you all. It is amazing how
> therapeutic nature can be.
>
> http://www.climbing.com/climber/invisible-wounds/
>
> http://www.sierraclub.org/missionoutdoors/
>
> I believe the founding fathers of this country would be frightened if they
> new we had a permanent and active standing army. You may disagree. This
> is not the forum to have that debate. One thing I know we can all agree on
> is those who go abroad need and should receive help when they get back.
> Forming a relationship with the natural world can be very healing.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 41
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:27:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: surferskir at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Backpack recommendations
> To: aggie03.kh at gmail.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <8D04702B9FC2A94-1748-7D7D6 at webmail-vm014.sysops.aol.com>
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>
> Investigate the Golite line. Mine and My wifes' are great Around 3.5 pounds, and many adjustments to make it fit just rigtht. Mine is 5500 and hers is 450, I beleive.
>
> --Dennis--
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kristin Hamann <aggie03.kh at gmail.com>
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 3, 2013 6:58 pm
> Subject: [pct-l] Backpack recommendations
>
>
> Wondering if any gals out there could weigh in on their favorite pack for a
> thru-hike. I am a little leery of unisex packs like the ULAs but would be
> curious what other women have found. My base pack weight is around 18 lb so
> I'm not sure an ultralight pack will be my best bet. I am replacing my
> Gregory Jade 50 which has been a faithful companion for many years but is
> now held together with cord. Looking for something in the 40-50L range
> around or under 3lb. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Cheers!
> k
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
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> Message: 42
> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:02:47 -0700
> From: saintgimp <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Picking up hikers in S Lake Tahoe?
> To: PCT-1 <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY405-EAS368D839650A65A64F0E86FEBD7D0 at phx.gbl>
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> I'm headed out to start my annual section hike, this year at Echo Lake. My ride will be driving me through SLT on the way there. If we wanted to look for hikers who need a ride back to the trail, where would we look? Just on the main highway?
>
> Eric
>
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