[pct-l] Shipping gas canisters

[Alan Miller]

Thanks for the replies.  I can see why this could be a battle at the post
office counter.  I am going to try to mail as little fuel as possible to
save our resupply person some headache. It looks like buying canisters as
you go is very doable all the way up to Tahoe as long as you are willing to
carry two cans occasionally.  The stretch between Tahoe and Ashland,
though, looks pretty bleak.  For those of you who did use canisters, what
did you do between Tahoe and Ashland (and in Oregon) where you couldn't buy
as you go?


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:57 PM, David Ehreth <dehreth88 at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is no question about being able to mail small butane canisters
> through the USPS. However, it's a little hard to dig it out of USPS
> Publication 52, but here's how to do it:
>
> Start here: Section 342.22 (Page 31), Mailable Gases. Read paragraph a.
> Note that the standard small butane canister is normally marked UN2037.
>
> Then go to Section 343.3 (Page 41), Marking and Documentation. Read
> paragraph b. This explains the markings you will need on the package.
>
> Next, review USPS Packaging Instruction 2A (page 315), Flammable Gasses.
> This section will insure proper packaging.
>
> Finally, to really convince yourself that this is a permissible thing,
> review Appendix A, (page 155) under *Butane*, et al. This will refer you
> to Appendix A, Receptacles (page 233) where the whole thing is pretty
> clearly spelled out.
>
> One reason we hike is so that we never have to do this kind of thing. Good
> luck!
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com> wrote:
>
>> Section 343 applies to Liquids. The second line of the definition
>> specifically excludes items included in other definitions, i.e.: Gases in
>> section 342.
>>
>> Ken
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Miller" <alan.miller401 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Frank Dumville" <fdumville at earthlink.net>
>> Cc: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shipping gas canisters
>>
>>
>> I was looking at the regulations for shipping canisters and I am wondering
>> if I am missing something.  The regs under 343.21 say "Flammable liquid
>> with a flashpoint of 20° F (–7° C) or below is prohibited."  Google is
>> telling me that Isobutane has a flashpoint of -115 F.  Wouldn't this
>> prohibit you from shipping canisters?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Frank Dumville
>> <fdumville at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>> > For details here's a link to the USPS publication on shipping hazardous
>> > material.
>> > http://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/welcome.htm
>> >
>> > Ken's link has a good summary.
>> >
>> > When you go to the post office the postal clerk may not be aware that
>> you
>> > can ship fuel so having the applicable sections of pub 52 can be handy
>> to
>> > show them. Try to go when they aren't busy and be politely persistent.
>> >
>> > Fuel can only be sent surface mail. NO priority shipping. Give it plenty
>> > of lead time.
>> >
>> > A better option is to get it along the trail. Here's a link to a list of
>> > fuel availability from 2012 that was recently posted.
>> >
>> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/2013-November/071511.html
>> >
>> > Snap
>> >
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