[pct-l] Anish..... Supported vs Unsupported

[Marcia Powers]

Anish did not accepted rides and walked any off trail miles to pick up her self mailed resupply packages.

On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net> wrote:

> [pct-l] Supported vs Unsupported Gary wrote:
> Trail Magic is accepted as long as it is not planned and coordinated.
> ----------------------------------
> Bob wrote:
> Perhaps the significant difference between a supported and unsupported
> journey lies in who plans and/or coordinates said magic.
> ---------------------------------
> 
> The "Supported vs Unsupported" issue comes up every time a hiking speed
> record is attempted.
> 
> Anish is a lovely girl and I respect her immensely.
> 
> I don't know if Anish accepted rides to or from trail towns or 
> not,...but I know
> that Scott did not.
> 
> Scott walked every inch of the way and never accepted any rides to or from
> trail towns or to his resupplies.
> 
> HE, WHO HOLDS THE RECORD, SETS THE TERMS.
> 
> So, if Anish sets a new PCT record which, it seems she will, she will break
> the existing speed record, but not necessarily  Scott's record unless she
> hiked it the way Scott hiked it and not accepted rides or trail magic along
> the way.
> 
> JMT Reinhold
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> [pct-l] Supported vs Unsupported*
> Reinhold Metzger* reinholdmetzger at cox.net 
> <mailto:pct-l%40backcountry.net?Subject=%5Bpct-l%5D%20Supported%20%20vs%20%20Unsupported&In-Reply-To=>
> /Wed Jun 11 06:01:38 CDT 2008/
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> David Horton holds the overall fastest PCT record....He did it
> with a support team.
> Joe holds the ''Without Support Team'' record.
> 
> There is a saying  ''HE WHO HOLDS THE RECORD SETS THE TERMS.''
> 
> Unsupported means different things to different people.
> In Joe's mind unsupported means without support team.
> Without support team means exactly what it says and does not
> preclude them from resupplying.
> 
> Technically speaking, in my mind, unsupported means no resupplies
> of any kind....no caches no Burger stops, no handouts....you live
> of the land and what is in your pack from start to finish....no
> exceptions.
> As Elevator already stated,those were my terms for the unsupported
> JMT record.
> 
> If you subscribe to that philosophy, the PCT cannot be done in a
> classic unsupported way unless you use the "Prestocked Calories"
> method or the "Gathering & Grazing" method.
> 
> Coming to think of it, Switchback would be the perfect candidate for
> the "Prestocked Calories" PCT record.
> 
> Remember,...."HE WHO HOLDS THE RECORD SETS THE TERMS".
> Joe holds the "Without Support Team" record and he sets the terms.
> So, if anybody wants break his record, they must do it on Joe's
> terms, otherwise they are not breaking his record, but, perhaps
> setting some other record.
> 
> JMT Reinhold
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> Elevator writes:
> 
> After talking with Joe a couple of months ago about this
> definition, rest assured it is not fully unassisted or unsupported
> as JMT Reinhold has described in his previous JMT record attempts.
> 
> Joe indicated that any magic (food or cache) found along the trail
> would be happily consumed without question.  Additionally, on-trail
> stops like Red's Meadows were acceptable spots for grabbing food
> from the cafe, which JMT Reinhold has indicated was a big no-no for
> the JMT Unsupported record.
> 
> Different trail, different definitions.
> 
> I suspect they are defining a new record here in some ways as they
> are simply differentiating themselves from others that have people
> meeting them along the way, hiking in resupplies ect.
> 
> Elevator
> 
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