[pct-l] severe dehydration danger on the trail

Tue Apr 30 00:37:24 CDT 2013

Kristy-- 
You are not the ones I'm worried about.  You have experience. You are not who I had in mind about "newbies". Even a 50-80 mile hike will teach someone a lot of trail smarts.
I ran in so many people who had NEVER hiked more than 10 miles.  For some this was their first time hiking after a day hike or an overnighter.  I'm not smacking on new PCT hikers, just those that are attempting this life journey wihtout a clue of how difficult it will be.
I think someone else in this thread hit it right----So many people read "Wild", and thought, "gee that sounds like fun, I think I'll take 6 months off work and do that".
I personally have not done the complete PCT either.  But after over 30 years of hiking I have some pretty good "trail smarts", and I learn something new every year, and from this PCT-l.  And I pass that knowledge on to others that I have met who have less experience.  (I warned many of those "newbies" gently this year without trying to get them to quit.  Although it was doubtfull they woud finish 500 miles for some of them.  I gave them advice, lessons learned, and told them how hard it would be.  But I don't know if any of them took it seriously.  I remember some guys from Canada who really freaked out when I told them of rattlesnake stories, and my experiences with snakes on the trail).

Keep on hiking Kristy.  It sounds like you have done some preparation hiking, and good luck.

--Dennis--

-----Original Message-----
From: Kristy Margulieux <kmmarg at gmail.com>
To: Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: [pct-l] severe dehydration danger on the trail

Hi all, 
I am technically a newbie to the trail although no stranger to California 
backpacking and I'm only doing 500 miles of the pct up in NorCal in June. You 
guys are freaking me out a little bit with all the smack talk on new pct hikers. 
I haven't done a distance like the one I will be attempting but I feel that my 
prep work will be more than sufficient and we all have to start somewhere. 
Please don't be mean to us noobs. We need you all to help us learn the best ways 
to enjoy this trail. Isn't that what this list serve is partially for? Can't we 
all just get along?  
Kristy

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Au contrare. This is not a new phenomon. In 2009 Chopper required a helicopter 
rescue from Hauser Creek, hence the name. Since then the creek has been flowing 
more often than not. In 2010 it was rainy and cold, in 2011 there was a lot of 
water, but I can't speak for last year since I missed that one. This year was 
warm to hot during the day at KO . Really luck of the draw as far as weather is 
concerned. There are so many people hiking each year now that all varieties of 
hiker behavior are represented at the outset so that there is no 'constant'. 
IMHO.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Incredible Bulk <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> It's called Wild effect. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/29/2013 3:52 PM, gary_schenk at verizon.net wrote:
>>>> Seriously, people can't make it past Hauser Creek without needing a
>>>> rescue?
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if they are consulting their maps for water information
>>> and overlooking the water report and other sources. There may be a creek
>>> at mile 15.4, but Hauser Creek is usually dry during the hiking season.
>>> How could you leave Campo not knowing that?
>>> 
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