[pct-l] mailing fuel

[Ken Powers]

I am confused about your terminology. My understanding is that "Ground" is first class delivery, it just cannot be put on an airplane. 

I have been shipping ORM-D packages to General Delivery (post offices) for the last 12 years. They have never said anything to me about it at either the shipping or the receiving  post offices.

I have even seen some interesting exceptions to shipping fuel ground. When Post Masters can see that there is no chance of the package being flown, like delivery to the next town, they have advised me to just ship it without the Ground label.  

When we mailed ORM-D packages to Idaho's wilderness inholdings (ranches surrounded by wilderness) the packages are flown in by small planes. I called the air service to ask if my ORM-D package was going to be a problem. They said it was not a problem, that they frequently delivered 55-gallon drums of fuel to these inholdings. My 110 grams of butane looked pretty small at that point.

Ken
www.GottaWalk.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vicky Mattson 
  To: Ken Powers 
  Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 9:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] mailing fuel


  Also you must know that the fuel has to be shipped by ground.  It is my understanding that post offices only accept first class mail for general delivery.  So you can not ship fuel to post offices.


  On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com> wrote:

    As far as I can determine USPS ground is the only legal way to ship fuel. As
    Tom says allow plenty of time for the shipment to get to its destination. We
    allow 2 weeks minimum and maybe even a month if the distance is great (East
    Coast?).  You may want to call the pickup point and ask how long they will
    hold your package for you to arrive.

    Ken
    http://www.gottawalk.com/shipping_fuel.htm

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "tom aterno" <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
    To: "Sir Mixalot" <atetuna at gmail.com>; "Alexandra Robinson"
    <xelamme at gmail.com>
    Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
    Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:35 AM
    Subject: Re: [pct-l] mailing fuel and bear spray


    Charmin relied on our mailing 25 packages via USPS ground, including two
    packages containing one fuel canister each and labeled ORM-D. I made sure to
    mail each package 2 weeks before she reached the mail drop. Only one time
    did she not receive the package. That package was addressed to the Kracker
    Barrel somewhere in Washington - my memory escapes me. It was eventually
    returned to us a month after she completed her thru hike.

    I will rely on USPS ground when I thru hike.


    The Incredible Bulk



    ________________________________
    From: Sir Mixalot <atetuna at gmail.com>
    To: Alexandra Robinson <xelamme at gmail.com>
    Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
    Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 1:53 PM
    Subject: Re: [pct-l] mailing fuel and bear spray

    They can be mailed by ground service only, and must be labeled ORM-D.
    While it is possible, ground service is slow and unpredictable enough that
    it's tough to rely on.

    Some sleep with their food safely, but I don't like giving critters big and
    small a good reason to sniff around my campsite, so I keep my food far away
    from me while I sleep.

    On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Alexandra Robinson <xelamme at gmail.com>wrote:

    > Is it possible to mail fuel canisters or is this a big no no? I was also
    > curious if people feel they need any kind of defense if they encounter a
    > bear i.e. bear spray? I live in MT and have never carried it my self but a
    > lot of people do and I know there are quite a few bears in Yosemite. Im
    > just curious how people feel about it and if its necessary. Thanks a
    > bunch!
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