[pct-l] Contributing to Common Ground

[Tortoise]

My sincere appreciation to your Mother and all who served in WW2 and Korea.

Tortoise

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On 2012.03.09 22:05, Charles Doersch wrote:
> Yippeeeee, indeed! My mother -- 86 and a veteran of WWII and of Korea --
> wishes she could hike it with us in 2012. She watched the PCT DVDs and
> loved them, and loved the type of people who do such things and admires the
> folks who fashion such things (as the DVDs). The stories she tells -- the
> losses she's endured -- but she doesn't compare apples to pumpkins. The
> experience of the PCT, she's convinced, would be unique and challenging and
> oh- so- marvelous in her life of griefs and wonders. Including Inchon,
> Pusan, Seoul, and deep into what is now N. Korea.
>
> We begin 4/20 by flying into San D. See some of you at ADZPCTKO, and others
> on the trail, and others along the way as angels&  hosts. And Mom will be
> following by the blog.
>
> Blessings,
>
> ~Charles&  the guys
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Scott Williams<baidarker at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> As for cold, the area north of Inchon, where I was stationed in 1973 (I'm
>> old, but not old enough to have been in that war) hit minus 80 wind
>> chills.  I've never been so cold in my life.  Ten layers, Mickey Mouse
>> boots and fur lining did nothing for us riding around in open jeeps at
>> those temps.  But I still froze my ass off on the desert section of the
>> PCT, bring your coats everyone.
>>
>> Yah, we could be subjects for all kinds of studies.  How did Hummingbird
>> run 45 to 55 miles per day for months?  She hit her first 60 mile day while
>> passing us, including the climb out of Saied Valley, to Callahan's, the day
>> before we went into Ashland with her.  How did her body do that?  How did I
>> get used to walking over 30's for months in my late 50's?  And how does a
>> guy like Scott Williamson do it year after year, and love it?  I'd say
>> we're on to a bit of bliss that most of our species has forgotten is part
>> of the legacy of humanity, because it really makes most of us so darn
>> happy.
>>
>> I'd love to take part in a study while hiking.  Having something like that
>> to contribute, might make me feel less guilty for being so content out
>> there.
>>
>> Happy Hiking folks, the season is just beginning.  Yippppeeeee!!!!!!
>>
>> Shroomer
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Barry Teschlog<tokencivilian at yahoo.com
>>> wrote:
>>> I'm not trying to slam the writer of:
>>>
>>> The PCT is also an interesting place to study human physiology and even
>>> psychology. Where else are people engaged in cardiovascular exercise,
>> under
>>> a variety of weather conditions and altitudes while carrying a load, in
>>> unfamiliar terrain, for several months continuously?
>>> Just to educate.
>>>
>>>
>>> The answer is an infantryman in combat - they also get the stress of
>> being
>>> shot at.  I hear those guys in the First Infantry Division who landed at
>>> Omaha on the coast of France had to hump all the way to central Germany
>>> (with a few spots where they had to retrace their steps when the Krauts
>> got
>>> a little uppity).  A few years later, I recall something about the
>> Marines
>>> marching from Inchon to near the NK border with China and back a ways to
>> a
>>> boat to move them further south, then marching back north again from way
>> in
>>> the south, then having to march back south, then north a bit again as
>> well
>>> - I don't remember all the details.  Perhaps some one ought to look it
>> up.
>>> I hear the weather at Bastogne or the Chosin Reservoir in winter time is
>> a
>>> bit more chilly that what one encounters on the PCT.  I also hear they
>> were
>>> all heavy truckers back then - no sil nylon, and their hats were all made
>>> of hardened steel as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> The nutrition needs of a soldier is probably a good place to start for
>>> what a thru hiker needs.  That's what I did pre-hike.  There's plenty out
>>> there on what the Army feeds the infantry in combat zones.  It does the
>>> Army no good to have a soldier fall ill or breakdown due to malnutrition
>> -
>>> they're just as useless as if they'd been wounded in combat.
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