[pct-l] Planning the PCT 2013

Bill Burge bill at burge.com
Thu Jun 14 23:10:17 CDT 2012


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http://www.4jeffrey.net/pct/index.htm

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Bill Burge
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On Jun 14, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Halmargolis at aol.com wrote:

> From: Hal "Green Hornet" Margolis _halmargolis at aol.com_ 
> (mailto:halmargolis at aol.com) 
> Gary, I live in L.A. and San Diego County. I am familiar with  the climate 
> and terrain here. I've done the PCT a few years ago. There are  a good 
> number of us in southern Cal that went through it all and who will  be pleased to 
> help in different ways.  If you hadn't already, I suggest you  get 
> publications from some great people: (1) the latest Guidebook by Schaffer  et.al 
> (all kinds of info in it), (2) great free downloadable relevant maps  from  
> "halfmile," providing the latest info on water  sources (3) the data book by 
> "Gentle Ben" (a summary of places,  distances, elevations and reliable water 
> sources), (4) Yogi's compilation of  food and supply & other resources along 
> the trail, by Jackie McDonnell,  (5) numerous on-line journals available 
> from pcta.org  --entertaining  and inspiring, and of course, (6) this pctl 
> site. There is much more  ancillary stuff out there, including my book, 
> "Trekking Along the Pacific Crest  Trail: The First 700 Miles" on the amazing 
> oddysey of crash  anywhere up and down route over many climates from the Mexican 
> Border to  Kennedy Meadows. All these people have learned to love this trail. 
> I trust you  will, too!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/14/2012 10:00:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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> 1. Re: PCT  2013 (Gary Wright)
> 2. Animals aren't dumb... (Brian  Montgomery)
> 3. Re: Preparing for a thru hike (James  Vesely)
> 4. Re: Where to put your bear can  (ambery-80243 at mypacks.net)
> 5. Re: iPhone 4s trail GPS (Lindsey  Sommer)
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> Message:  1
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:44:53 -0400
> From: Gary Wright  <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT 2013
> To: patrick  griffith <patrickjgriffith at hotmail.com>
> Cc:  pct-l at backcountry.net
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> On Jun 13, 2012, at 4:48 PM, patrick  griffith wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all, and Travis,
>> I too am  planning to do the PCT in 2013, i know it's still months away 
> but I can't  wait. My planning problem is that I am a Brit, and will be 
> flying into LA a  week or so before ADZPCTKO, and don't know anyone on the west 
> cost of the usa  who will be able to send me food boxes, maps etc, so I was 
> wondering if there  any others other there who have done the pct resupplying 
> from trail towns  only?
>> My planning is only just beginning so any help would be most  welcome.
> 
> You need to get Yogi's Handbook (www.pcthandbook.com).   It will answer all 
> your resupply questions.
> 
> It is possible and quite  common to 'self supply' on the PCT.  Either 
> purchase food in town or  purchase and send food ahead to your stops where 
> purchasing isn't a good  option.
> 
> Radar
> 
> 
> 
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> Message:  2
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:22:37 -0700
> From: Brian Montgomery  <bmontgomery746 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Animals aren't  dumb...
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> "Animals aren't dumb and I'm convinced  that they get pissed off at
> us, but also have a sense of humor."
> 
> I  heartily agree...  One of the funniest instances I have ever seen  was
> while on a school field trip with my students many years ago.   While
> stopping for lunch at a popular cinder cone south of Bend, OR, one of  my
> students decided the break off a chunk of his chocolate chip cookie  and
> offer it to our little chipmunk friend while placing the remaining  portion
> in his lap while sitting on the ground. While reaching to extend  his
> offering, the student was flabbergasted to find the the little
> guy  promptly by passed the minuscule proffered portion, ran up into  the
> students lap and ran off with the major portion of the cookie leaving  our
> hapless student holding the crumbs. One got the sense, from the  practiced
> motions of the rodent, that this was NOT the first time he had  pulled this
> trick.  I laughed so hard I had to sit  down...
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date:  Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:29:41 -0700
> From: "James Vesely"  <JVesely at edmsupply.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Preparing for a thru  hike
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> http://www.bushwalking.org.au/FAQ/FAQ_Footwear.htm#Sizes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Don't  know if this was posted before but the link has lot of info on
> shoe  selection and some of it is counter to what a lot of us have  been
> told.   The author Roger Caffin writes articles for  Backpacking Light.
> He has an interesting take on arch support for  starters.   
> 
> 
> 
> If anyone has read the article I like to  know what you think, some of
> his ideas seem to make a lot of sense.   
> 
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----Original Message-----
> From:  pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On  Behalf Of Thomas Jamrog
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 11:38 AM
> To:  mkwart at gci.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Preparing  for a thru hike
> 
> 
> 
> Regarding gait:
> 
> Having your gait  assessed by a knowledgeable sports podiatrist is the
> first thing you should  do if you are planning a thru hike.  Blisters,
> shin splints, back pain  all can be compounded or even  caused by gait
> abnormalities. In my  case, I had to take longer steps, not smaller,
> widen my gait slightly, and  aim my heel placement on the inside of the
> heel. I did serious damage to my  left foot on my AT thru hike, and
> corrected my gait and was able to  complete my PCT thru hike without a
> blister, or any additional  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.bushwalking.org.au/FAQ/FAQ_Footwear.htm#Sizes
> 
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> Message:  4
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:35:38 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From:  ambery-80243 at mypacks.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Where to put your bear  can
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 
> I have never had  an issue with humans messing with my bear can, but I 
> would suggest just trying  to locate it at a not too visible spot, and try to 
> put it there when no one is  paying attention.
> 
> As far as being concerned with it not being near your  tent.....it never 
> should be near your tent. You should never put the thing any  closer to you 
> than you want the bear to be!  Bear cans are not  necessarily odor proof, and 
> savvy bears know what they are.  They do  sometimes come to investigate 
> them.  I've seen several people cowboy camp  and stick their bear can next to 
> their head.  If a bear wants to check it  out, I for one wouldn't want him 
> that close.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original  Message-----
>> From: Kathi <pogo at pctwalker.com>
>> Sent: Jun  14, 2012 8:40 AM
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l]  Where to put your bear can
>> 
>> Hi List!
>> Hope everyone is out  enjoying this fantastic weather... but I hope 
>> someone is left to help  answer my question. :)
>> 
>> When I store my food I usually place my  bear can away from my tent and 
>> don't think about it too much. I am  going to a very popular area and my 
>> permit says it is required to stay  in the designated camping areas... so 
>> no stealth camping (which is  what I usually do). Maybe I am not having 
>> much faith in human-kind but  I have been in these popular areas before 
>> where LOTS of people from  all walks of life are and I've overheard 
>> people waking to find that  not a bear, but a person has stolen some of 
>> their food. I didn't worry  about it myself that trip because it was the 
>> last day and at worst I  would lose my snacks. This time it is the 
>> beginning of my trip and I  don't want to lose my weeks worth of food. I 
>> definitely don't want to  sleep with my bear can in my tent but am 
>> concerned about setting it  out away from my tent that a person may see 
>> my tasty Snickers and  decide to help themselves. Any experience? Am I 
>> being a  human-kind-phobic  weeny?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Kathi
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> Message:  5
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:37:16 -0700
> From: Lindsey Sommer  <lgsommer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] iPhone 4s trail GPS
> To:  "Jackalope96 at aol.com" <Jackalope96 at aol.com>
> Cc:  "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hi Jackalope,
> 
> I use a  4S as a gps device and it seems to work great. 
> 
> Check out GPS Kit and  Topo Maps. I know that Topo Maps works with 
> halfmile's way points too. GPS kit  is great to get your bearings in terms of 
> altitude, location, etc.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 10, 2012, at 7:44 PM,  Jackalope96 at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Anyone know if the iPhone 4s can serve  as a trail GPS? What app's would 
> be  
>> needed? I can't seem to  find anything on search engines. I have 
> Halfmile's  
>> waypoints  for the JMT that I was going to load onto another GPS that has 
>> now  crapped out!! Thanks, Jackalope 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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