[pct-l] Marmot Precip

[Gary Minetti]

By wets out, I mean that in any rain or wet snow, the jacket gets saturated in minutes.  Four of us bought them for a paddling trip in Quetico Provincial Park.  None continue to see the jacket as a reliable weather barrier.  We bought them from Campmor for $59.  Perhaps they were a defective lot - thus the low price - who knows.

I have had the jacket for 4+ years.  When I am on a several day backpacking trip, I carry a 4mil X large garbage bag with a hole for my head and arms cut out.  I wear the PrerClip over the garbage bag so that I do not look completely like a condom.  That's how bad the jacket is.  

It is, however a nice 11oz. wind breaker.

Gary
On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:30 AM, John Abela wrote:

> What exactly do you mean by "wets out" ??
> 
> Do you mean that the jacket is faulty and it lets rain water through?
> 
> Or do you mean that the jacket is causing you to sweat and causing
> your cloths/body to get wet?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Gary Minetti <gary.minetti at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have been very disappointed with my PreCip.  Wets out in 10 minutes.  Still not sure what I will be using this year.
>> 
>> Gary
>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 8:13 PM, jamesfmiller at hotmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> The Precip only filters water.
>>> 
>>> Bigfoot jim
>>> 
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>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Robert E. Riess" <robert.riess at cox.net>
>>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 01:04:20 GMT+00:00
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Marmot Precip
>>> 
>>> That's interesting . . . . I'm surprised other folks have had trouble with
>>> the PreCip.   I've used the PreCip with LOTS of rain on the CDT.  It
>>> performed great!  I've also carried it on the PCT, and it performed well
>>> there, too.  However, on the PCT I rarely used it for rain.  I mostly used
>>> it for wind/warmth.
>>> 
>>> Yogi
>>> www.pcthandbook.com
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Robert E. Riess <robert.riess at cox.net>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Not all of these replies were cc to the pct-l.  So here they are, names
>>>> withheld to protect the innocent.
>>>> 
>>>> Does a new Marmot Precip need seam-sealing? If so, with what product? Bob
>>>> Riess, San Diego
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>          * No.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>          * Others' experiences may vary, but my Precip bought in 2008 was
>>>> not waterproof at all. I replaced it with a Paclite material
>>>> jacket (my choice was Arcteryx) that has performed very well.
>>>> I understand that washing and drying some materials improves
>>>> their water resistance.
>>>> I would look for a jacket whose manufacturer states how it
>>>> performs to a standard test. See
>>>> http://backcountrybeacon.com/2010/04/waterproof-ratings-demystified/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>           * Nah, it's ready to go. No seam-sealing required.  That's a
>>>> very popular jacket for thru-hikers!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>           * Do NOT get a marmot precip unless you want to get wet. Ours
>>>> soaked through last year within about 10 minutes of heavy rain, which we
>>>> had quite a bit of  in Oregon. I considered this product a total waste of
>>>> money.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Seems to be a divergence of experiences and opinions. Be that as it may, I
>>>> have placed orders for the Marmot Precip and the Marmot DriClime wind
>>>> shirt. Maybe I’ll carry an umbrella.  BR
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