[pct-l] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: All those nice people...

Wed Feb 29 14:40:47 CST 2012

--- On Wed, 2/29/12, Charles Williams <charlesnolie at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Charles Williams <charlesnolie at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw: Re: All those nice people...
To: "Halfmile" <halfmile at pctmap.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 12:39 PM

Sorry, Halfmile, I didn't  mean to ring the alarm bell over post office closures.  Nor am I getting ready for a thru-hike this year.  I was making a point about the availability of accurate information in the Guide Book that is more than adequate to plan a trip with.

That does not mean I'm against using tools like Yogi's book or Halfmile's maps or whatever else.  I just mean to say relying on the guidebooks won't lead to the mahem some think it will.  And if some make enough to pay for "research expeditions" so be it.  

And Jackass, (I love writting that as though I'm getting away with something dirty) I did the trip in 93 with just the guide book and didn't miss a single package.  Yes I did spend an afternoon on the phone confirming what few private addresses there were back then, but there weren't that many.  I think I even wrote a letter or two (Oh, the humanity!).  In all honesty I didn't resupply at San Gorgonio pass.  It just wasn't neccessary.  I understand some people re-supply more frequently now days, but I just didn't want to loose more time to more town-stops, nero or zero days, and spend more money.

--- On Wed, 2/29/12, Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net> wrote:

From: Halfmile <halfmile at pctmap.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw: Re: All those nice people...
To: "Charles Williams" <charlesnolie at yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 9:43 AM

Charles,
The Cabazon Post Office has not closed. The only PCT post office still
in danger of closing is in Castella.
Cabazon is a sometimes a difficult 4 mile hitch. You might consider
the new trail angel near Cabazon. See my info here:
http://www.pctnews.com/2012/a-summary-of-pacific-crest-trail-updates-for-2012-416/
or here:
http://www.pctmap.net/trailnotes/index.html
or on my maps.
-Halfmile

ps - I think various emails referencing the Pink Motel are referencing
the Wilderness Press Data Book.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Charles Williams
<charlesnolie at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has the Cabazon Post Office closed?  Cause that's where my PCT Guide Book says to resupply at from San Gorgonio Pass (I-10).  It doesn't mention anything about the Pink Motel.
> --- On Wed, 2/29/12, aslive at charter.net <aslive at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: aslive at charter.net <aslive at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fw: Re: All those nice people...
> To: "Jason M." <jmmoores1 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 7:05 AM
>
>
> Jackass
>
> It is my understanding that the Pink Motel closed a few years ago.
>
> Shepherd
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Jason M. wrote:
>
>> "How difficult is it to read the two paragraphs pertaining to
>> re-supply at
>> the beginning of each chapter while at home packing boxes?"
>>
>> Don't forget your box to "The Pink Motel" just north of the I-10.
>> Great
>> place to hang out for the day.
>>
>> tell 'em Jackass sent ya!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Charles Williams
>> <charlesnolie at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 2/28/12, Charles Williams <charlesnolie at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Charles Williams <charlesnolie at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] All those nice people...
>>> To: "Douglas Tow" <douglastow at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 6:26 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All we had decades ago was the "Bible", not the "Book of Lies" and
>>> very
>>> rarely did we hear about people being "dead, maimed, or still lost".
>>> Yes,
>>> we got everything we needed including resupply information, trail
>>> description, mileage points, reliable water sources, and maps in the
>>> Bible
>>> and it was the only source of information available.  I met lots of
>>> people
>>> that thought they could do better, but none did.  And if you really
>>> want to
>>> know anything about the valleys, ridges, and peaks you're traveling
>>> through
>>> it is still a very useable tool.
>>>
>>> Of course this was the time before Spot's "Help" button, GPS, cell
>>> phones,
>>> and water caches.  And it was before the "herd" and speed attemps or
>>> records.  Angels were to be reveered, not used.  It was really a
>>> simple
>>> time that I long for.
>>>
>>> I'm just saying it's not as difficult as some want you to believe and
>>> we
>>> did just fine oblivious to our "without" status.  How difficult is it
>>> to
>>> read the two paragraphs pertaining to re-supply at the beginning of
>>> each
>>> chapter while at home packing boxes?
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 2/28/12, Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [pct-l] All those nice people...
>>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>>> Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 5:42 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Good afternoon!
>>>
>>> "I cannot imagine what my PCT experience would have been without
>>> Yogi's
>>> books, except that I probably would be dead, maimed, or still lost."
>>>
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