[pct-l] Vagrancy Issues, calve muscles & combat boots

Mon Dec 3 22:40:08 CST 2012

Joan,
Don't pay any attention to Mike, this may be a little to deep for him.

And no,...you have not gone wrong in this conversation...you said everything
just right.

Ooohhh....Joan, big calve muscles are not always a final clue that the 
person is
a hiker.
Some hikers have rather skinny legs and I have seen hobos and homeless
with massive calves.
So be careful, and don't pick someone up just because they have big calves,
no matter how attractive those calves may look to you....it could be a 
hobo or
homeless.

JMT Reinhold
-------------------------------------

On 12/3/2012 4:17 PM, Mike Cunningham wrote:
> Sorry but anytime you deal with Reinhold you are over your depth, as 
> are we all.
> hm
>
> *From:* "bluetrail at aol.com" <bluetrail at aol.com>
> *To:* reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> *Cc:* pct-l at backcountry.net
> *Sent:* Monday, December 3, 2012 12:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [pct-l] Vagrancy Issues, calve muscles & combat boots
>
>
> Hmmm, I don't recall saying that I wanted to fondle the muscular 
> calves, just that I used those as a final clue that the guy was a 
> hiker and not a homeless person.
>
> Where have I gone wrong in this conversation?  Why do I feel that I'm 
> in over my depth?
>
> Joan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net 
> <mailto:reinholdmetzger at cox.net>>
> To: bluetrail <bluetrail at aol.com <mailto:bluetrail at aol.com>>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net <mailto:pct-l at backcountry.net>>; 
> Hiker97 <Hiker97 at aol.com <mailto:Hiker97 at aol.com>>
> Sent: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 12:04 pm
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Vagrancy Issues, calve muscles & combat boots
>
>
> Joan,
> You are quite a trail angle....a backpackers dream come true.
> I am so glad to hear that you would pick me up if you saw me at a  
> "FT" road-crossing.
> BTW...I have been a backpacker for about 45 years and developed some 
> sizable calve
> muscles and if you ever do pick me up at a FT road junction, since you 
> are very fond of
> calve muscles, I will let you feel them and squeeze them.
>
> You say the hiker that came in 1995 is still there?........Boy, he 
> must have really sizable
> calve muscles.
>
> Say guys, I guess the lesson to be learned from this is....guys are 
> not the only ones that
> are fascinated by shapely legs...so are girls,...except the girls 
> like'm hairy with big calve
> muscles, especially in combat boots.
>
> So,... that is why the hiker babes where giving me all those starry 
> looks when I first hiked
> Whitney in combat boots back in 1968 or 1969.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> Your hairy legged trail companion in combat boots
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On 11/29/2012 12:01 PM, bluetrail at aol.com <mailto:bluetrail at aol.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Whoa!  You're implying a whole lot here (but you might be right on 
> some points).  As my house is a little less than a mile off the 
> Florida Trail, over the years I've had probably close to 100 
> long-distance hikers staying and being fed at my house.  One came in 
> 1995 and is still there.  So maybe there is something to the sex 
> appeal of hiker stink and hairy, muscular calves, those his are more 
> sinewy than big muscled.
>
> I hike (99.5% day hike) myself, lead activities for the Florida Trail 
> Association, and volunteer for my county natural lands program.  I've 
> been to ALDHA (east) three times, and have presented at ALDHA on the 
> topic of doing trail support for a long-distance hiker.  For the hiker 
> who stayed, I've shipped packages for about 14,000 of his more than 
> 15,000 backpacking miles.  The first time the hiker who stayed 
> thru-hiked the PCT, here are the instructions I got:
>
> "Here's the book with all the places I'll need a mail drop marked.  
> I'm using the 5-month schedule.  On those highlighted in yellow, I'll 
> need complete food resupply too.  Here are the maps:  you can figure 
> out when I'll need each one.  Tear the appropriate pages out of the 
> guidebook and mail them with the maps.  Here's a bunch of signed, 
> blank checks to pay my bills and buy the food and postage. You know 
> what I like to eat."
>
> And he was off to California the next day.
>
> So, I'm not unacquainted with the genre.  What amused me most at the 
> time I picked up the "heavy trucker," was that Nimblewill Nomad (Eb 
> Eberhard) was already staying at my house that same day.  We took a 
> photo of the two men with their packs--a real study in contrast as Eb 
> was going quite lightweight.  I'm just saying that even then, seeing 
> someone with such a heavy, shabby pack and crummy visible "gear" was 
> outside the thru-hiker norm, and much closer to what I see panhandling 
> at Orlando street corners.  But the muscular calves were the giveaway.
>
> And yes, if I saw you doing an FT road-crossing, I'd probably pick you 
> up too.
>
> Telling way too much,
> Joan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net 
> <mailto:reinholdmetzger at cox.net>>
>
>
> [pct-l] Night Hiking in the Mojave / Vagrancy Issues
> Joan,
> hat you saw was a "HEAVY TRUCKER."
> eavy Truckers are "Old School" and are known to carry oversize,
> eavy packs to be prepared for anything they may or can reasonable
> xpect to encounter on the trail.
> hen I hike with my wife or the Scouts, I am a "Heavy Trucker" because
> want to be prepared for anything I can reasonably expect to encounter
> n the trail...in other words, I don't take any chances when hiking with
> y wife or the Scouts.
> owever, on my "solo" JMT "fast-packs" I am willing to take chances and
> o "UL" to the extreme.
> And yes, I do look like a filthy, scroungy rat on those fast packs and
> ould very easy be mistaken for a "hobo" or "homeless"
> Now "SWITCHBACK",...you could never mistake for a "hobo" or "homeless."
> witchbacks wears the finest and most fashionable garments available.
> mean Switchback looks like he just stepped out of a fashion clothing
> tore, all perfumed up and spick & span clean.
> TW....Switchback also does not have that malnourished look....he appears
> o be well nourished.
> Say Joan,....Would you pick me up if you saw me, all grubby and scuzzy
> ooking, but with well developed calve muscles?
> Seems like the girls are very fond of calve muscles.
> So, if you guys want to increase your chances of getting a ride from a 
> girl
> hat fancie calve muscles,...."wear combat boots."
> othing turns women on like "hairy legs in combat boots"....especially if
> ou have well developed calve muscles.
> JMT Reinhold
> our hairy legged trail companion in combat boots
> --------------------------------
> oan wrote:
> once drove by an FT thru hiker thinking he must be homeless because
> is gear was so oversized and shabby.
> hen I saw the muscles in his
> alves and turned around and picked him up.
> ust one more way to differentiate the homeless from hiker trash.
> In all fairness, his pack weighed more than 60 lbs.)
> Joan
> ------------------------------------
> einhold wrote;
> es,
> t is very difficult to tell "hiker-trash" from a "hobo" or "homeless."
> mean, let's face it, what is the difference between sleeping on the
> rail somewhere for 5-6 month or sleeping in an alley somewhere?
> ot much,.......except you will never see a self respecting "hobo" or
> omeless" wear "Gortex".
> nother way you can tell a "hobo" or "homeless" from "hiker-trash"  is
> leanliness.
> omeless seem to be much cleaner.
> omeless" also seem to look less malnourished and don't have that wild,
> eranged,far away look in their eyes, like "hiker-trash" does.
> o you see, unless you know what to look for,it is very difficult to tell
> "hobo" or homeless" from hiker trash...they are the same breed of cats.
> ne prowls around in alleys,.... the other prowls around on trails.
> JMT Reinhold
> our JMT prowling alley cat
> ------------------------------------------
> BF wrote:
> ...have any of you PCT thru hikers ever had any //problems with being
> onfused being homeless during your travels on and off //the trail? /
> --------------------------------
> adar wrote:
> was viewed as a 'hobo' by the driver who picked me up outside Mojave
> n that same trip.
> ome people don't seem to even comprehend what backpacking is never
> ind the more esoteric experience of long-distance hiking.
> adar
>
>
>
>
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