[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 52, Issue 31
WBL
aeromer at ix.netcom.com
Sat Apr 28 17:59:28 CDT 2012
How long does it take to get from Campo to S22 Crossing? I will be there this weekend to assist any PCT Hikers between S22 and I-10,
aeromer at ix.netcom.com
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> 1. How many starting at KO (Webmail dcooper)
> 2. Re: How many starting at KO (Paul Bodnar)
> 3. Re: How many starting at KO (CHUCK CHELIN)
> 4. Transportation Information (Alexandra Robinson)
> 5. PCT Journal (barberaj at tds.net)
> 6. Re: Transportation Information (Brick Robbins)
> 7. Stoves (Alexandra Robinson)
> 8. Re: Gently Used GG SpinnTwin for sale at KO (Nathan)
> 9. Re: Stoves (Eric Lee)
> 10. Re: Stoves (Scott Bryce)
> 11. Re: Time off to hike (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
> 12. Re: Time off to hike (Tortoise)
> 13. Re: Time off to hike (Heike Carrel)
> 14. Ride to Campo or Lk Morena Sat night, or Mon morning?
> (Rebecca Wilcox)
> 15. ride offer to KO (Karl Carter)
> 16. Re: I found freeze dried tofu! (Janet Grossman)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:31:44 -0400
>From: Webmail dcooper <dcooper at bigsky.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] How many starting at KO
>To: "Pct-L at backcountry.net" <pct-L at backcountry.net>
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>Does anyone know approximately how many thru hikers will be starting at KO?
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:39:05 -0700
>From: Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] How many starting at KO
>To: Webmail dcooper <dcooper at bigsky.net>
>Cc: "Pct-L at backcountry.net" <pct-L at backcountry.net>
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>50 Thru hikers departed the border at around 7:30 am on 4/26.
>
>I would guess there would be about 100 or so leaving the KO Sunday morning.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:31 AM, "Webmail dcooper" <dcooper at bigsky.net> wrote:
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>> Does anyone know approximately how many thru hikers will be starting at KO?
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:43:07 -0700
>From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] How many starting at KO
>To: Webmail dcooper <dcooper at bigsky.net>
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>Good morning, dcooper,
>
>You can get a pretty good indication by counting the thru-hike aspirants
>here:
>
>http://adzpctko.org/2012/registered_attendees.htm
>
>Steel-Eye
>
>-Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
>
>http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>
>http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09/
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Webmail dcooper <dcooper at bigsky.net>wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know approximately how many thru hikers will be starting at KO?
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:56:57 -0700
>From: Alexandra Robinson <xelamme at gmail.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Transportation Information
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>Hello All,
>
>I was curious if anyone had some comprehensive information on
>Transportation from the San Diego Airport to Campo. I've been met with some
>set backs to getting started on the trail and had to delay my departure
>date by a week there by having to give up the ride I had scheduled. I think
>im a bit overwhelmed and stressed by these current events because I can't
>seem to navigate or understand how to get from the airport to Campo.
>Looking for some friendly advice and encouragement on the topic. Thanks so
>much, can't wait to get out there!
>
>Alex
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:02:11 -0700
>From: "barberaj at tds.net" <barberaj at tds.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] PCT Journal
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>Currently at mile 419, but heading to the Kick Off
>
>JoeBarbera.wordpress.com
>
>Joe B.
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:31:47 -0700
>From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Transportation Information
>To: Alexandra Robinson <xelamme at gmail.com>
>Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandra Robinson <xelamme at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I was curious if anyone had some comprehensive information on
>> Transportation from the San Diego Airport to Campo.
>
>>From the Airport, take Bus 992 downtown. Buy a $5 day pass from the
>driver, it will be good for the Light Rail too
>
>Get off at east end of the 992 at the City College Trolley (light rail) Station
>
>At that station, take an Orange Line Trolley towards "Gillespe Field"
>Get off at the El Cajon Transit Center.
>
>>From the El Cajon Transit Center take Bus 894 to Campo.
>It only runs 3 times a day, and not on weekends
>
>http://www.sdcommute.com/Services/Route.aspx?r=992
>http://www.sdcommute.com/Services/Route.aspx?r=520
>http://www.sdcommute.com/Services/Route.aspx?r=894
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:36:34 -0700
>From: Alexandra Robinson <xelamme at gmail.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Stoves
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>Hello All,
>
>Another question to shoot out there. I am curious what kind of stoves
>people bring/have the best luck with on the trail. I've read that it can be
>difficult to find certain fuel types and that people get into making tin
>can alcohol stoves. I have an MSR whisperlite that runs on white gas. In
>peoples opinion and experience would it be silly for me to rely on being
>able to find white gas along the way or should I shoot for a different
>stove all together. Thank you...im sure i'll write again with more
>questions.
>
>Alex
>
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:26:34 -0700
>From: Nathan <nathanfrank2 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gently Used GG SpinnTwin for sale at KO
>To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <AF44E872-B4A1-4CB6-BAF9-5DCD8E1E72BE at gmail.com>
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>At the ADZPCTKO. I have a gently used Gossamer Gear Spinntwin tarp for sale. Comes with bug net and ten titanium steaks. Fits two people and weighs in at under a pound. Price negotiable.
>
>I'm at campsite 61. Hit me up before PO noon tomorrow--If it doesn't sellit gets shippedhome.
>
>Old Spice & Lotus
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. KO rideshare/ride offer (neil p.)
>> 2. (no subject) (neil p.)
>> 3. Yogis's PCT guide book (James Rivet)
>> 4. Re: Average Pack Weight on PC (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
>> 5. Snow pack North Cascades (Andrea Dinsmore)
>> 6. Official Length of the PCT (Ryan Weidert)
>> 7. Gold Bond (Tim Gustafson)
>> 8. Highway 20 trail access point (robin smith)
>> 9. Re: Gold Bond (Gary Wright)
>> 10. Re: Gold Bond (Jim & Jane Moody)
>> 11. Re: Gold Bond (Donna White)
>> 12. FW: Special Notice to Wilderness Users (James Vesely)
>> 13. Time off to hike (Donna White)
>> 14. Re: Time off to hike (Jackie McDonnell)
>> 15. Re: Time off to hike (Jeffrey Olson)
>> 16. Re: Time off to hike (Bob Bankhead)
>> 17. Re: Time off to hike (Scott Bryce)
>> 18. Re: Time off to hike (Bill Burge)
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:00:37 -0700
>> From: "neil p." <neildpetersen at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] KO rideshare/ride offer
>> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Hey gang I know its last minute but I am offering 2 spaces in my car. I
>> will be leaving friday morning from the Carlsbad area and can give a ride
>> from SD or maybe even Warner springs. If interested please call only at
>> 831-359-3100
>> -Queso
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:08:37 -0700
>> From: "neil p." <neildpetersen at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] (no subject)
>> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Hey Natalie, Blaze and Brett, I will be heading to KO on friday morning. I
>> could come through the julian area but I will not have access to email
>> between now and then so if you want a ride you will need to figure out how
>> to call me. I have two spaces for people and their gear. Good Luck
>> -Queso
>>
>>
>> Message: 28
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:32:03 -0700
>> From: Natalie Fisher <nat at wildernessdancer.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Ride request from Julian
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>> Hi all. There are three of us looking for a ride to lake morena today 4/26.
>> If anyone is passing by Julian and has room for one, two, or all of us plus
>> our packs- we would very much appreciate it.
>>
>> We have email access but no phone. Staying at the julian lodge.
>>
>> Thanks so much!
>>
>> Natalie, Blaze and Brett
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:17:30 +0000
>> From: "James Rivet" <airjay66 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Yogis's PCT guide book
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
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>> I finished reading Yogi's guide book and wanted to say thanks for all the info! Yeah, you pay for the book, but still I want to express my gratitude. If I complete this hike its because of all the help, some paid for/some not, that is out there. The book gets you dialed-in. I got to know the cast of Yogi characters: all down to earth and matter of fact (some downright gritty detail--loved it). I know this is not a place for a book review--so, the end.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:36:15 -0700
>> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Average Pack Weight on PC
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <60D3268B-A06D-482E-8293-52CACEBC08D7 at santabarbarahikes.com>
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>>
>> Don't worry too much. You WILL jettison from the trail (send stuff
>> home in the mail) and you might even pick up some additional stuff.
>> 15lbs is pretty darn good. I think my first attempt my pack was 22
>> and my 2nd it was 12. And further up the trail on my 2nd attempt I
>> added in a paperback book and town clothes plus the largest size CAN
>> of deet and a T-shirt so it got a little higher.
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious what the average pack weight is for PCT thru-hikers. Base
>>> weight mostly. I'm not interested in starting weight wars.
>>> I am new to thru hiking. My base weight is 15 pounds. It has taken me
>>> weeks to get it to this weight. It's 5 pounds heavier than I like.
>>> Right now I'm too tired to go through it one more time. If I find
>>> that this
>>> is too heavy, I'll jettison non-essentials from the trail.
>>> My big three's--shelter, pack and sleeping bag--are respectable (5.2
>>> pounds). 10 pounds of other junk----uuhhgg.
>>> I know weight is a killer and there's a ton of good info out
>>> there. Is
>>> anybody else out there struggling with this amount of weight or
>>> does this
>>> seem
>>> about average or above average?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> J Rviet
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:06:41 -0700
>> From: Andrea Dinsmore <andrea at dinsmoreshikerhaven.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Snow pack North Cascades
>> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAD=4stHTO6VRR=eASQCc5erAjyFdK8YZUkvhMcFFWy1VBO7Y2w at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Here's a link to WADOT photo site for the Hwy 20 snow clearing work for you
>> SOBO.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/sets/72157629681048559/with/6964526532/
>>
>> PCT MOM
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:07:13 -0600
>> From: Ryan Weidert <ryan.weidert at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Official Length of the PCT
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hey All,
>> I've seen varying distances, from 2650 to 2660. I know detours etc.
>> add and subtract miles, however I'm curious what the official distance is
>> without detour and other similar considerations. I know the new bridges in
>> WA add about 5 miles of trail, so maybe two totals would be in order; one
>> before the new bridges and one since the new bridges.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tuna Helper
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Weidert
>> Geologist | Royal USA Inc.
>> 303-955-5820 Office | 530-263-8029 Cell
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:38:35 -0700
>> From: Tim Gustafson <tjg at tgustafson.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Gold Bond
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <CACMcHMd+T2sGRJSRky200585L3PU+cgo0Yo3TqL7iQ8qv83duQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>> So, I just went to the store to see about this Gold Bond Extra
>> Strength stuff that I hear some people talking about. I've heard it's
>> good for chafing and foot odor and such.
>>
>> Holy crap the bottle that my store carries is HUGE - it's like at
>> least a pound of the stuff.
>>
>> I'm going to try to do the sandals and socks thing for at least the
>> first few days and I'm going to be wearing compression shorts to stop
>> chafing between my legs, so I'm wondering if I even need this stuff.
>> Should I just leave it behind, and if I switch to shoes have the
>> bottle shipped to me in the same box with the shoes?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tim Gustafson
>> tjg at tgustafson.com
>> http://tgustafson.com/
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:19:53 -0700
>> From: robin smith <ants.in.yur.pants at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] Highway 20 trail access point
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAOk3u-nGQuRXuGpJtLH+bqV04u7xgAiQMBpyku28wtCjSYdjzQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Thanks for the replies in my asking for info as to the nearest mile
>> post on OR hwy 20 for trail access. You've been very helpful. Robin
>> AKA LaMadre
>> --
>>
>> ^..^
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:30:13 -0400
>> From: Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gold Bond
>> To: Tim Gustafson <tjg at tgustafson.com>
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID: <932CE94E-FD18-4735-9373-C87808A299D8 at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Tim Gustafson wrote:
>>
>>> So, I just went to the store to see about this Gold Bond Extra
>>> Strength stuff that I hear some people talking about. I've heard it's
>>> good for chafing and foot odor and such.
>>>
>>> Holy crap the bottle that my store carries is HUGE - it's like at
>>> least a pound of the stuff.
>>
>> It comes in nice small 'travel' sizes.
>>
>> http://www.minimus.biz/Gold-Bond-Body-Powder-C02-0623001-8200.aspx
>>
>>
>> Radar
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:01:13 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gold Bond
>> To: Tim Gustafson <tjg at tgustafson.com>
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <377709269.2006168.1335524473272.JavaMail.root at sz0094a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>>
>>
>> Lots of stores (e.g., Target) have a "travel size" section.? You might look there.
>>
>> Mango
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> From: "Tim Gustafson" <tjg at tgustafson.com>
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:38:35 PM
>> Subject: [pct-l] Gold Bond
>>
>> So, I just went to the store to see about this Gold Bond Extra
>> Strength stuff that I hear some people talking about. ?I've heard it's
>> good for chafing and foot odor and such.
>>
>> Holy crap the bottle that my store carries is HUGE - it's like at
>> least a pound of the stuff.
>>
>> I'm going to try to do the sandals and socks thing for at least the
>> first few days and I'm going to be wearing compression shorts to stop
>> chafing between my legs, so I'm wondering if I even need this stuff.
>> Should I just leave it behind, and if I switch to shoes have the
>> bottle shipped to me in the same box with the shoes?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tim Gustafson
>> tjg at tgustafson.com
>> http://tgustafson.com/
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:58:08 -0500
>> From: "Donna White"<donna2143 at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gold Bond
>> To: "Jim & Jane Moody"<moodyjj at comcast.net>, "Tim
>> Gustafson"<tjg at tgustafson.com>
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Message-ID: <ec2370fe-f786-4781-91d7-b4bcfeacd826 at blur>
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>> I am learning a lot from this site so thank you. I used Gold Bond. Also keep in mind, you can always transfer product to a smaller container if you are worried about weight. I do that all the time so I can on board airplanes.
>>
>> Sorry but I cannot crop the email as I am using my phone.
>>
>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
>> To: Tim Gustafson <tjg at tgustafson.com>
>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 11:01:13 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gold Bond
>>
>>
>>
>> Lots of stores (e.g., Target) have a "travel size" section.? You might look there.
>>
>> Mango
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>> From: "Tim Gustafson" <tjg at tgustafson.com>
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:38:35 PM
>> Subject: [pct-l] Gold Bond
>>
>> So, I just went to the store to see about this Gold Bond Extra
>> Strength stuff that I hear some people talking about. ?I've heard it's
>> good for chafing and foot odor and such.
>>
>> Holy crap the bottle that my store carries is HUGE - it's like at
>> least a pound of the stuff.
>>
>> I'm going to try to do the sandals and socks thing for at least the
>> first few days and I'm going to be wearing compression shorts to stop
>> chafing between my legs, so I'm wondering if I even need this stuff.
>> Should I just leave it behind, and if I switch to shoes have the
>> bottle shipped to me in the same box with the shoes?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tim Gustafson
>> tjg at tgustafson.com
>> http://tgustafson.com/
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:43:16 -0700
>> From: "James Vesely" <JVesely at edmsupply.com>
>> Subject: [pct-l] FW: Special Notice to Wilderness Users
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1B64CE751A7DE74FB3673AA17F6A154E5CC3F2 at mail.local.edmsupply.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>>
>>
>> I was sent this last night.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Wilderness Reservations
>> <WildernessReservations at yosemiteconservancy.org>
>> Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM
>> Subject: Special Notice to Wilderness Users
>> To:
>>
>>
>>
>> Attention backpackers,
>>
>> An unprecedented wind storm on November 30, 2011 blew down thousands of
>> trees and caused severe damage to trail systems throughout the Sierra
>> Nevada mountains including sections of the Pacific Crest and John Muir
>> Trails. Unusually heavy damage has been found in the Reds Meadow area.
>> The spring opening of Reds Meadow Road will likely be postponed. Trails
>> around Reds Meadow, especially the John Muir and Pacific Crest Trails to
>> the north and south of Devils Postpile National Monument are choked with
>> trees. In some places, blow down lies 8-10 feet high across trails for
>> an extended distance. Travel in these areas may be very difficult and
>> take considerably more time. Be aware of potential hazards, difficult
>> conditions, and lack of services in Reds Meadow Valley. Travelers in the
>> area should be prepared for no services at Reds Meadow. If you plan on
>> traveling in the Reds Meadow area in the early season, we recommended
>> you consider altering your trip to a different area or a later date. If
>> you still plan to hike in the area, we advise you bring additional food
>> and supplies as there may be no services at Reds Meadow and you may have
>> to spend extra days in the area.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Yosemite Wilderness Office is unable to provide additional
>> information at this time. Updates, including photos and trail maps of
>> the area are provided by the Inyo National Forest on their website at
>> www.fs.usda.gov/inyo or by calling (760) 873-2483
>> <tel:%28760%29%20873-2483> . Alerts about alternate trail routes and
>> clean-up efforts will be posted on the website. The Pacific Crest Trail
>> Association is also posting updates on
>> http://pcta.org/planning/during_trip/current.asp as they receive
>> information.
>>
>> Specific trails affected include the Pacific Crest and John Muir Trails
>> north and south of Devils Postpile, Upper Rush Creek on the PCT, Fish
>> Creek, Mammoth Pass Trails into Reds, the River, High and Shadow Creek
>> trails near Agnew Meadows. The trails in the Lake Basins including the
>> Duck Pass trail have several blow downs and will require clearing prior
>> to stock and recreational u
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:46:06 -0700
>From: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stoves
>To: "'Alexandra Robinson'" <xelamme at gmail.com>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <BAY145-ds2AA8C4651825F5EB475D5BD250 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Alex wrote:
>>
>I have an MSR whisperlite that runs on white gas. In peoples opinion and
>experience would it be silly for me to rely on being able to find white gas
>along the way or should I shoot for a different stove all together.
>>
>
>You won't see a lot of white gas stoves among the thru-hiker crowd because
>a) it can be hard to find resupplies along the trail (and you can't ship it
>to yourself), and b) those kinds of stoves tend to be heavier than necessary
>for one person. They're great for big groups, though. Most thru-hikers use
>either an alcohol stove, a canister stove, or solid fuel (Esbit or similar).
>Each of the three have their advantages and disadvantages.
>
>Eric
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:51:56 -0600
>From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Stoves
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <4F9B230C.3000707 at scottbryce.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>On 4/27/2012 3:36 PM, Alexandra Robinson wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Another question to shoot out there. I am curious what kind of
>> stoves people bring/have the best luck with on the trail. I've read
>> that it can be difficult to find certain fuel types and that people
>> get into making tin can alcohol stoves.
>
>They are usually made of aluminum pop cans or cat food cans. The best
>design in terms of fuel efficiency is the Pika stove.
>http://users.sisqtel.net/losthiker/pikastove/. The best in terms of heat
>output is my own Yaas stove.
>http://scottbryce.com/yaas_stove/index.html, or the Cat stove
>http://royrobinson.homestead.com/Cat_Stove.html. The simplest is the
>Super Cat http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/SuperCat/index.html, though I
>am wary of side burning stoves, having started a fire while testing one.
>
>> I have an MSR whisperlite that runs on white gas. In peoples opinion
>> and experience would it be silly for me to rely on being able to find
>> white gas along the way or should I shoot for a different stove all
>> together.
>
>White gas will be hard to find. Alcohol is much easier to find.
>
>There is some controversy concerning alcohol stove since they are simply
>an open alcohol flame. There have been fires started with alcohol
>stoves. They should not be used in conditions where nearby flammable
>materials could catch fire.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:18:19 -0700
>From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time off to hike
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID:
> <34BABE4B-0304-41C2-89AA-43DE40F141EF at santabarbarahikes.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
>I lived super cheap. No debt. Can you believe I have never bought a
>car, let alone a house, and I'm 47 years old! One day asked myself
>why I was sitting in a cubicle when I had enough money saved up in my
>checking account to last at least a year. So I quit. Spent TWO
>summers hiking the trail. Got a seasonal job in between to stay busy.
>Got a low-quality job afterward until I could find another decent
>cubicle job. Plan to stay here 10 years or so and then quit forever.
>At least that's the current plan.
>
>On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
>> Just curious as to how people find the time to spend months or even
>> weeks
>> hiking the trail. Do many of you have jobs that allow you to take
>> breaks or
>> maybe you have seasonal jobs? I write this from my corporate desk job.
>>
>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:14:03 -0700
>From: Tortoise <tortoise73 at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time off to hike
>To: Bob Bankhead <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
>Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID: <1CF7BF92-29EE-4DEB-BDB0-60B3FB0BF90D at charter.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>How much do you spend hiking Versus whatever you would be spending otherwise? Except maybe for transportation to/from the trail, for me I think it comes out about the same.
>
>Tortoise
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:05, "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> For wage slaves, it's all about vacation weeks; how many do you have? Can
>> you take a small sabbatical or afford time off without pay (if it's
>> available)?
>>
>> For us retirees, our time is our own, but can our savings/portfolios afford
>> the expense?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>> On Behalf Of Donna White
>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 5:45 AM
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] Time off to hike
>>
>> Just curious as to how people find the time to spend months or even weeks
>> hiking the trail. Do many of you have jobs that allow you to take breaks or
>> maybe you have seasonal jobs? I write this from my corporate desk job.
>>
>>
>>
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>
>Message: 13
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:16:59 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Heike Carrel <hcarrel26 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Time off to hike
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID:
> <1335579419.5363.YahooMailClassic at web161302.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>I am planning to hike the trail in 2014 and I am going to first ask to see if my work will give me a leave of absence and, if not, I plan to simply quit.?I'll have 6 months of savings set aside above my trip expenses.
>
>
>On Apr 27, 2012, at 5:45 AM, "Donna White"<donna2143 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Just curious as to how people find the time to spend months or even weeks?
>> hiking the trail.? Do many of you have jobs that allow you to take breaks or?
>> maybe you have seasonal jobs? I write this from my corporate desk job.
>>
>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:13:49 -0600
>From: Rebecca Wilcox <wilcox.rebecca at gmail.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] Ride to Campo or Lk Morena Sat night, or Mon morning?
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID:
> <CAAQgMipR5S0dX94VRYg=i-4UrRUJBW-BmbJ3rPSRtwUQRn6wgw at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>My partner and I unfortunately are missing the kickoff to attend a
>memorial service. Our flight arrives in San Diego Saturday at 8:46 pm.
>This is probably a longshot but we are looking for a way to get to
>Lake Morena Saturday night to catch a ride to Campo the next morning
>with the last of the kickoff crew. We'll need to find a way to get a
>cannister of gas too (are those available at kickoff?).
>
>Barring that, we'll get gas in San Diego Sunday and we were wondering
>if anyone is going to Campo early Monday morning (we wanted to avoid
>getting there as late as midday via the bus).
>Thanks!
>-Rebecca and Mark
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 15
>Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Karl Carter <reedhunter1 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [pct-l] ride offer to KO
>To: "Pct-L at backcountry.net" <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
>Message-ID:
> <1335558117.5712.YahooMailNeo at web111403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Hello All-
>?
>I live in San Diego (about 10 min from the airport), and was planning to attend KO just as a day visitor on Saturday the 28th. I saw someone earlier looking for a ride on Twitter, so I thought I would post this here in case anyone is looking for transportation tomm.
>?
>Cheers
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 16
>Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:26:22 -0700
>From: Janet Grossman <janetgr at Cableone.net>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] I found freeze dried tofu!
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Message-ID: <4F9BFE0E.4000505 at Cableone.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>When I was doing the AT back in 1979, my mom added two different kinds
>of tofu to some mail drops for me. One was actual freeze-dried tofu that
>looked like hunks of sponge, and we soaked it and added it to a stir-fry
>of veggies right after the town stop. The other was a little packet of
>powder that we mixed with water and let sit in our cook pot and it
>solidified into really delicious soft, fresh tofu. I'm thinking she must
>have found these in an Asian market back then, but she has Alzheimer's
>and can't remember such things now. We don't have any Asian markets
>where I live now, and the one big one I've visited when in the big city
>doesn't carry any sort of dried tofu.
>Janet
>
>
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