[pct-l] Road from Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows
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Mon Apr 9 13:25:46 CDT 2012
In a message dated 4/9/2012 10:00:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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Was in Yosemite Valley in late March. The road through Tuolumne was still
closed. At that time there was some snow in the shady parts of the valley
with snow cover at 6,000. As you may know, the road typically opens when
the outlook appears promising safety-wise. There had been busses scheduled
daily between the two. Once you get to Toulumne you'd likely know the
details.
Hal "Green Hornet" Margolis
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Today's Topics:
1. Fuller Ridge Conditions - Early April 2012 (J J)
2. Re: Pct-L Digest, Vol 52, Issue 9
(Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
3. Snakes (abiegen at cox.net)
4. Mt. Whitney views 4/7/12 (Len Glassner)
5. "Trail Angels on the PCT" (new documentary in production)
(SylviaEnder at aol.com)
6. Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows (Rika Oli)
7. Re: Mt. Whitney views 4/7/12 (Jeff Eckert)
8. Re: Snakes (David Thibault)
9. Hiking for Multiple Sclerosis (Shawn Hudson)
10. Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows (Ken Murray)
11. Re: Outragous Marketing Poly (Faren MacDonald)
12. Business booming for once-troubled North Face | Full Page
(Tortoise)
13. Re: Outragous Marketing Poly (Yoshihiro Murakami)
14. Re: Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows (goslowgofar)
15. There will be no caches at Kelso Valley Road or Bird Springs
Pass PLEASE FORWARD (Monty Tam)
16. Re: Outragous Marketing Poly (Hiker97 at aol.com)
17. Re: There will be no caches at Kelso Valley Road or Bird
Springs Pass PLEASE FORWARD (Lisa Peru)
18. Washington in Late June (Toby Maxwell)
19. Re: Judge suspends horse packing in national
parks(Sequoia-Kings) (James Vesely)
20. Re: Washington in Late June (CHUCK CHELIN)
21. Re: Judge suspends horse packing in national
parks(Sequoia-Kings) (Tortoise)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:01:12 -0700
From: J J <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Fuller Ridge Conditions - Early April 2012
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Greetings,
Hop and Skipper are strong, experienced hikers. They sent me this comment
in a text message:
"22 hours to get from saddle jt to fuller trailhead. Trail deep under
snow, dangerous for most of its length."
Walk well,
J J
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:07:08 -0700
From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 52, Issue 9
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I saw as many rare rosy boas as rattlesnakes. Only one rattlesnake
"terrorized" me. This was just outside Warner Springs. He would not
let me pass. I threw stones toward him and he wouldn't move. I had to
run through the brush in a wide arc to get by. I saw one rattlesnake
in Northern California, oddly exactly in the section the WP guide
book author said I might see baby rattlesnakes. And it was a baby
rattlesnake, too. There's supposed to be a rattlesnake that lives at
the spring on the big climb out of Seiad Valley. I didn't see him. I
saw more bears than rattlesnakes. 9 bears, 3 rattlesnakes.
On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> I have a climbing partner who really wants to do the PCT with me
> but he has
> a snake phobia. a serious one, I know this sounds humorous but it's
> very
> true. He was one of the top ice and alpine climbers when he was
> younger but
> he has always had a problem with snakes. Me, I love snakes, I
> really do.
> (spiders give me the creepies.lol) But here is the question to the
> seasoned
> PCT hikers, Are snakes plentiful on the trail particularly CA and
> southern
> OR?
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:32:02 -0400
From: <abiegen at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Snakes
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Cc: Kathy Walter <kathywalter at me.com>
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Kathy Walter <kathywalter at me.com>
wrote:
>A follow up question on PCT snakes: if you are hiking with a partner,
would the lead hiker be the one to spot and startle the snakes? If Dan >took
the lead in snake regions and if his partner stayed reasonably close behind,
wouldn't Dan be the one coming nose-to-nose with most >snakes? Of course,
this plan would mean they'd have to use the buddy system for bathroom
breaks...
I've led many Sierra Club hikes and seen many snakes including quite a few
rattlers. This is what I have seen when a group goes past a rattlesnake:
The first person doesn't even know they passed the snake.
The second person gets hissed at.
The third person gets rattled at.
And the fourth person gets bit.
Actually the fourth person has never gotten bit because by the time the
rattle starts everyone stops passing the snake. The moral of this story is
that rattlesnakes give you plenty of warning that they are there. They don't
want to get stepped on or injured and they do go through the steps I
mentioned - unless someone else has passed by recently and you are coming in at
step 3.
I do have a friend who was bitten by a rattler but he was climbing up a
stream bed and reached up to a rock where he didn't see a rattler laying. On
the trail you are very safe if you are alert and can hear.
TrailHacker
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Abraham Lincoln
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:41:04 -0700
From: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Mt. Whitney views 4/7/12
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Some pictures of the west side of Mt. Whitney, from Trail Crest and above.
http://piotrowski.smugmug.com/Whats-New-1/Mt-Whitney-April-7-2012/22334133_x
d8JfK#!i=1784637809&k=hmbFVZC&lb=1&s=A
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:58:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: SylviaEnder at aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] "Trail Angels on the PCT" (new documentary in
production)
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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See website:
http://www.pcttrailangels.com
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 12:31:08 -0700
From: Rika Oli <rikaandoli at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I'd like to hike from Tuolumne Meadows down into the Valley floor during my
hike this year, then return to the trail back at Tuolumne. Is there a way
to get transportation from Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows? or is the
only option to just hike back the way I came? I know that there's a bus
that runs, but I might be getting there before they start for the season.
Thanks for any advice!
Rika
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:05:23 -0700
From: Jeff Eckert <jape1 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mt. Whitney views 4/7/12
To: pct-l <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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Hey Strider, or any of you other geologist types out there. The top of
Whitney, as shown in the link below, is a jumble of broken up slabs of
granite. Do you suspect that they were formed during the upthrust, or through
the effects of weathering over the centuries? I'm mentally contrasting it
against the top of Half Dome which is comparatively smooth.
http://piotrowski.smugmug.com/Whats-New-1/Mt-Whitney-April-7-2012/22334133_x
d8JfK#!i=1784650868&k=pJ5fZGM&lb=1&s=A
On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Len Glassner wrote:
> Some pictures of the west side of Mt. Whitney, from Trail Crest and
above.
>
>
http://piotrowski.smugmug.com/Whats-New-1/Mt-Whitney-April-7-2012/22334133_xd8JfK#!i=1784637809&k=hmbFVZC&lb=1&s=A
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 13:20:14 -0700
From: David Thibault <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snakes
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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This really depends on how he reacts to seeing a snake, you said a serious
one. If it is complete incapacitating panic mode then the PCT is probably
not a good idea - I saw two rattlesnakes just between Campo and the Kickoff
last year on a day hike, and probably 30+ snakes (of many types) the year I
hiked the whole thing. If his reaction is really bad he might be able to
work through it by visiting a herpetologist and getting more experience
just being near snakes. If his reaction is real bad maybe a therapist
could work this too.
Many people are afraid of snakes but don't go into full panic mode upon
encountering them - just get nervous and feel panicy - if this is how
he reacts then he should be fine. My biggest concern would be how would
he react to encountering a snake on a very steep trail. Would he tend to
do something dangerous like jump over the side? Or could he will himself
to calmly walk back away from the snake?
Me, I think they are great and enjoy seeing them - my biggest complaint,
with a few exceptions, is they don't hang around long enough.
Day-Late
>
> I have a climbing partner who really wants to do the PCT with me but he
has
> a snake phobia. a serious one, I know this sounds humorous but it's very
> true. He was one of the top ice and alpine climbers when he was younger
> but
> he has always had a problem with snakes. Me, I love snakes, I really do.
> (spiders give me the creepies.lol) But here is the question to the
seasoned
> PCT hikers, Are snakes plentiful on the trail particularly CA and
southern
> OR?
>
>
> .
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:31:10 +0900
From: Shawn Hudson <shizaquawn at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Hiking for Multiple Sclerosis
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hi PCT-Lers,
I debated posting this here, because I wasn't sure what everyone's feelings
were on people hiking the PCT and raising money while doing it, but I
decided that in the long run, it's worth more to me, my wife, and lots of
people with Multiple Sclerosis to risk stepping on toes than not.
So, that said, I hope you're not offended by what my wife, Maury, and I are
doing by hiking the PCT as a vehicle to raise money for a non-profit we
really believe in (Myelin Repair Foundation).
I'll keep this short, but I hope that you or someone you know might be
willing to donate to our cause. Our website is www.makingmiles.com ...
we've already hosted two 10k fun-runs here in South Korea (where we teach)
and raised a lot for the Korean MS Society. The Myelin Repair Foundation is
incredible, though. Over 80% of the money donated to them goes directly to
the lab where they're researching ways to retard the reason MS debilitates
so many people - it's endless attack on the fatty tissue surrounding the
nerves in our brain. They've also been instrumental in connecting all of
the individual researchers around the world, helping to streamline the
process from lab to actual patents.
Lastly, my Mom's had the disease for 25 years. I've seen her in and out of
wheelchairs, in hospitals, falling down stairs when her body suddenly goes
numb. She's suffered through temp. blindness, memory loss, and a host of
other issues. Despite this, she managed to teach rambunctious middle
schoolers from a wheelchair for many years, before she was able to retire.
She's not unique. There are over 2 million people with MS. I was there when
she found out the news that her friend (same age) with progressive MS died.
So yeah, I don't take this lightly, and I hope you take me seriously enough
to help. Even $5 is greatly, GREATLY appreciated.
The MRF is, I believe, the key. And the work they do is not just applicable
to MS. It's going to help those with Parkinson's and Alzheimer's, as well
as a host of other neurological diseases.
Thanks for reading my schpiel.
Shawn "Voodoo" Hudson
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:43:09 -0400
From: Ken Murray <kmurray at pol.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows
To: "." <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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check YARTS
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 19:44:48 -0400
From: Faren MacDonald <fountainpen14 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Outragous Marketing Poly
To: Hiker97 at aol.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hey Switchback,
Is the hands-free one ounce umbrella holder for real or should I look for
it next to the dehydrated water? I'm having trouble attaching my Golite
umbrella to my Golite Jam pack. I tried two velcro straps and they didn't
work that well. Anyone have suggestions?
Thanks,
Faren
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 12:02 AM, <Hiker97 at aol.com> wrote:
> Yes, it is another disturbance of your tranquility and peace. It is an
ad
> for the Pirate's Lair at the 2012 Kickoff at campsite #22. This is
> located between the restrooms and the entry road to Lake Morena County
> Park. The
> Pirate's Lair will be the center of all outrageous activity and trail
> muses and lies starting Friday.
> * Painting shelter stakes florescent orange
> * Hands-free one ounce umbrella holder - a Switchback exclusive
from
> the inventor and developer
> * Hiker snacks and hiking jokes notebook
> * SuperSecrets of Backpacking seminar and dehydrated water demo
> * Kickoff Donation Box for excess gear you want drop off for others
> * The world famous 150% money back guarantee - no questions asked -
> on all products and services
> By the way, I will staying at Pine Valley in a nice warm, dry, remote
> controlled motel Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights. I don't want
the
> local
> natives to get restless about the Kickoff and plan a sneak attack, so I
> will keep an eye on them for all of you. No thanks necessary.
>
> Your obedient servant and trail knave.
>
> Switchback the Trail Pirate
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:00:43 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Business booming for once-troubled North Face | Full
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Interesting article in today's San Francisco Chronicle on North Face.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/08/BUSK1NVGDT.DTL&t
ype=business&ao=all
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:45:53 +0900
From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Outragous Marketing Poly
To: Faren MacDonald <fountainpen14 at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Hiker97 at aol.com
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Dear Faren
This umbrella was developed for fishermen. It not a joke. It is a real.
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/21/0000759821/21/imgefd1272azik3zj.jpe
g
2012/4/9 Faren MacDonald <fountainpen14 at gmail.com>:
> Hey Switchback,
>
> Is the hands-free one ounce umbrella holder for real or should I look for
> it next to the dehydrated water? I'm having trouble attaching my Golite
> umbrella to my Golite Jam pack. I tried two velcro straps and they
didn't
> work that well. Anyone have suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Faren
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 12:02 AM, <Hiker97 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it is another disturbance of your tranquility and peace. It is
an ad
>> for the Pirate's Lair at the 2012 Kickoff at campsite #22. This is
>> located between the restrooms and the entry road to Lake Morena County
>> Park. The
>> Pirate's Lair will be the center of all outrageous activity and trail
>> muses and lies starting Friday.
>> * Painting shelter stakes florescent orange
>> * Hands-free one ounce umbrella holder - a Switchback exclusive
from
>> the inventor and developer
>> * Hiker snacks and hiking jokes notebook
>> * SuperSecrets of Backpacking seminar and dehydrated water demo
>> * Kickoff Donation Box for excess gear you want drop off for
others
>> * The world famous 150% money back guarantee - no questions
asked -
>> on all products and services
>> By the way, I will staying at Pine Valley in a nice warm, dry, remote
>> controlled motel Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights. I don't want
the
>> local
>> natives to get restless about the Kickoff and plan a sneak attack, so I
>> will keep an eye on them for all of you. No thanks necessary.
>>
>> Your obedient servant and trail knave.
>>
>> Switchback the Trail Pirate
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: goslowgofar <goslowgofar at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Hi Rika
There is a daily "hiker bus" that runs once a day from the valley to TM
and back.?? I don't know when you are going to be in TM so you may be correct
about it not being in operation when you?get there.? It is a pretty easy
hitch anyway, so you don't need to hike back up the hill.? If I see you on
the road when I'm on my way home, I'll give you a ride at least part of the
way! (I work in Yosemite.)
Katy
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I'd like to hike from Tuolumne Meadows down into the Valley floor during
my
hike this year, then return to the trail back at Tuolumne. Is there a way
to get transportation from Yosemite Valley to Tuolumne Meadows? or is the
only option to just hike back the way I came? I know that there's a bus
that runs, but I might be getting there before they start for the season.
Thanks for any advice!
Rika
GoSlowGoFar
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:47:57 -0700
From: "Monty Tam" <montypct at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] There will be no caches at Kelso Valley Road or Bird
Springs Pass PLEASE FORWARD
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Dear PCT Family
PLEASE FORWARD
I just talked to Mary Barcik who has been maintaining the Kelso Valley
Road and the Bird Springs Pass Water Caches for many years.
She says she cannot afford to stock it this year.
She has water out there right now, but the desert varmints are chewing
through all the bottles she reuses.
Her truck is old. Gas is high. She can?t afford to buy water from the
store.
After talking to her for a while I asked if WE got together and bought the
water, if she would put it out for us.
She said ?Of Course?.
Last year she put out over 400 gallons. This year there should be more
hikers.
$400 might get us through the season.
$500 would guarantee it.
Mary does not do computer, Paypal, or any of that.
To donate send a check to:
Mary Barcik
5400 Kelso Valley Road
Weldon, CA 93283
Thanks for helping this year?s hikers
Warner Springs Monty
For more info on the location and importance of these caches see
www.4jeffrey.net miles 616 and 631. In 2008 I saw a hiker?s life saved by the Bird
Springs cache.
PS Any communications need to be sent directly to my email as overuse of
the PCT-L by a few has made it hiker unfriendly. I do not get these posts.
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 23:10:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hiker97 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Outragous Marketing Poly
To: completewalker at gmail.com, fountainpen14 at gmail.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Yes, the world famous one ounce umbrella holder is for real. It is
simply
some gray foam pipe installation (buy at Lowe's or HomeDepot) cut to fit
your umbrella shaft. Then use some Velcro to attach it to the pack
shoulder
strap. The idea is to make the shaft thicker, so it will fit to the
shoulder strap easily.
With the Golite umbrella, you have to take the foam off the shaft to
lower
the umbrella. My umbrellas does not have that problem, since it
collapses
at the top and does not go down the shaft of the umbrella.
Cheers,
Switchback
In a message dated 4/8/2012 5:45:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
completewalker at gmail.com writes:
Dear Faren
This umbrella was developed for fishermen. It not a joke. It is a real.
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/21/0000759821/21/imgefd1272azik3zj.jpe
g
2012/4/9 Faren MacDonald <fountainpen14 at gmail.com>:
> Hey Switchback,
>
> Is the hands-free one ounce umbrella holder for real or should I look
for
> it next to the dehydrated water? I'm having trouble attaching my Golite
> umbrella to my Golite Jam pack. I tried two Velcro straps and they
didn't
> work that well. Anyone have suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Faren
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 12:02 AM, <Hiker97 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it is another disturbance of your tranquility and peace. It is
an ad
>> for the Pirate's Lair at the 2012 Kickoff at campsite #22. This is
>> located between the restrooms and the entry road to Lake Morena
County
>> Park. The
>> Pirate's Lair will be the center of all outrageous activity and trail
>> muses and lies starting Friday.
>> * Painting shelter stakes florescent orange
>> * Hands-free one ounce umbrella holder - a Switchback exclusive
from
>> the inventor and developer
>> * Hiker snacks and hiking jokes notebook
>> * SuperSecrets of Backpacking seminar and dehydrated water demo
>> * Kickoff Donation Box for excess gear you want drop off for
others
>> * The world famous 150% money back guarantee - no questions
asked -
>> on all products and services
>> By the way, I will staying at Pine Valley in a nice warm, dry, remote
>> controlled motel Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights. I don't
want
the
>> local
>> natives to get restless about the Kickoff and plan a sneak attack, so
I
>> will keep an eye on them for all of you. No thanks necessary.
>>
>> Your obedient servant and trail knave.
>>
>> Switchback the Trail Pirate
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:09:36 -0400
From: Lisa Peru <lisaperu2011 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] There will be no caches at Kelso Valley Road or
Bird Springs Pass PLEASE FORWARD
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <57378D18-EA46-4BF2-8224-FAD8AF96C7E7 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
For anyone who is loathe to use snail mail and checks, I'm using my PayPal
account to collect donations for Mary. Email me directly and I'll share
the PayPal info. I will carry a few checks on the trail next week so that I
can mail the donation to her on Monday the 16th (well, next time I reach a
PO!).
When I send her the check, I will list the contributors but not individual
amounts. So feel free to donate the random spare change floating in your
PayPal acct.
I started this so that this year's hikers over in FaceBook could chip in.
They're enthusiastic and I think we stand a good chance of getting a
meaningful sum.
Peru
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:47 PM, "Monty Tam" <montypct at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear PCT Family
> PLEASE FORWARD
>
> I just talked to Mary Barcik who has been maintaining the Kelso Valley
Road and the Bird Springs Pass Water Caches for many years.
> She says she cannot afford to stock it this year.
> She has water out there right now, but the desert varmints are chewing
through all the bottles she reuses.
> Her truck is old. Gas is high. She can?t afford to buy water from the
store.
>
> After talking to her for a while I asked if WE got together and bought
the water, if she would put it out for us.
> She said ?Of Course?.
>
> Last year she put out over 400 gallons. This year there should be more
hikers.
> $400 might get us through the season.
> $500 would guarantee it.
>
> Mary does not do computer, Paypal, or any of that.
>
> To donate send a check to:
>
> Mary Barcik
> 5400 Kelso Valley Road
> Weldon, CA 93283
>
> Thanks for helping this year?s hikers
>
> Warner Springs Monty
>
> For more info on the location and importance of these caches see
www.4jeffrey.net miles 616 and 631. In 2008 I saw a hiker?s life saved by the Bird
Springs cache.
>
> PS Any communications need to be sent directly to my email as overuse of
the PCT-L by a few has made it hiker unfriendly. I do not get these posts.
>
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:46:34 -0400
From: Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Washington in Late June
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hi everyone,
I am taking a little over 3 weeks to do some hiking this summer and was
planning on hiking in Washington starting at trout lake and moving north
(mile 2232 and on). Does late June to mid July seem early for this? Does
anyone have an idea about what the snowpack might be like that time of
year? Thanks!
-Toby
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 06:54:04 -0700
From: "James Vesely" <JVesely at edmsupply.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Judge suspends horse packing in national
parks(Sequoia-Kings)
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I would have to agree lets use a little more common sense and a little
less hyperbola.
I thing the decision to make commercial restrictions on wilderness areas
was one of the finest moments in the history of our government. One can
easily imagine what it would be like if helicopters were allowed to fly up and
down Yosemite Valley or what it would be like to be camping at a pristine
high altitude lake with helicopters coming and going dropping people and
supplies off.
Whoever follows pct-l I would think is a lover of the wild and scenic
outdoors should be grateful to the "liberal" groups like the Sierra Club, HSHA
and PCTA for what they did and are doing. If saving wildness areas is
liberal then we should all ware the badge proudly and really "well funded
radicals?" give me a break, compared to the well funded commercial real estate,
oil/gas, coal, lumber interests the environmental movement funding is
minimal.
And watch what you say about US presidents I am sure the liberal FDR took
a lot of flak about dedicating 18 national monuments by the end of his term
but can you imagine our country without them? If not for liberal and
progressive thinking we wouldn't have national parks, national monuments or any
wilderness areas to enjoy today. Don't fail to see the forest through the
trees!
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Brick Robbins
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 2:27 PM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Judge suspends horse packing in national
parks(Sequoia-Kings)
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>.?As a Back Country Horseman, I volunteer many days each year working on
the trail. <
While Mendo Rider takes this as a personal affront to horsemen, this
lawsuit is not about horses, it is about commercial use of the
national parks. Only ONE of the commercial uses is horse packing.
Others affected "include back-country trips booked through REI,
Outward Bound or any other commercial guide services."
Just like Meno Rider attacks ANYTHING that might restrict horses, it
seems many republicans blame Obama and "liberals" for anything that
doesn't go their way.
Whether or not Obama knows about this or legally could or would
intervene, I'm not sure how a decision in legal battle in a federal
court between the NPS and a Non Profit could be the president's fault,
or why he would intervene even if he could.... Last I checked, judges
don't work for the executive branch.
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:27:52 -0700
From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Washington in Late June
To: Toby Maxwell <toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID:
<CABc=HN=otipopMqHF7RNzs4WJ61SKOsjbxPr3gedWYzMHw7Etg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Good morning, Toby,
The advisability of departing NoBo in Washington before July depends upon
your motivation, experience, and appetite for route-finding over snowpack.
In
an average snow year in the Cascades mid-June is hikeable, but progress is
slowed due to: 1) The extra effort necessary for walking, 2) The extra
time necessary to puzzle-through the route-finding challenges over
residual snowpack ? remember there will be many fewer hiker tracks, and
lots of the tracks you do see will from local people who aren?t staying on
the PCT, and 3) Then there?s the lonesome factor: Not every hiker is
willing to deal with being substantially alone in big country for maybe
days at a time.
Based upon what I see around my area of N. Oregon, the graphic at
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/ftpref/support/water/westwide/snowpack/wy2012/s
now1204.gifis
a fair representation.
All that ?blue? means the hiker will see lots of ?white? on the trail
through July and well into August.
If my calendar wasn?t critical I would wait to depart mid to late July,
then I would allow for probable slow progress when planning food and when
projecting a completion date.
Enjoy your planning,
Steel-Eye
-Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09/
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Toby Maxwell
<toby.m.maxwell at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am taking a little over 3 weeks to do some hiking this summer and was
> planning on hiking in Washington starting at trout lake and moving north
> (mile 2232 and on). Does late June to mid July seem early for this? Does
> anyone have an idea about what the snowpack might be like that time of
> year? Thanks!
>
> -Toby
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:40:05 -0700
From: Tortoise <tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Judge suspends horse packing in national
parks(Sequoia-Kings)
To: James Vesely <JVesely at edmsupply.com>
Cc: "<pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <5557E483-B164-489A-AB6E-DD0E702F3AAF at charter.net>
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Well said! I agree.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:54, "James Vesely" <JVesely at edmsupply.com> wrote:
>
>
> I would have to agree lets use a little more common sense and a little
less hyperbola.
>
> I thing the decision to make commercial restrictions on wilderness areas
was one of the finest moments in the history of our government. One can
easily imagine what it would be like if helicopters were allowed to fly up
and down Yosemite Valley or what it would be like to be camping at a
pristine high altitude lake with helicopters coming and going dropping people and
supplies off.
>
> Whoever follows pct-l I would think is a lover of the wild and scenic
outdoors should be grateful to the "liberal" groups like the Sierra Club,
HSHA and PCTA for what they did and are doing. If saving wildness areas is
liberal then we should all ware the badge proudly and really "well funded
radicals?" give me a break, compared to the well funded commercial real
estate, oil/gas, coal, lumber interests the environmental movement funding is
minimal.
>
> And watch what you say about US presidents I am sure the liberal FDR
took a lot of flak about dedicating 18 national monuments by the end of his
term but can you imagine our country without them? If not for liberal and
progressive thinking we wouldn't have national parks, national monuments or
any wilderness areas to enjoy today. Don't fail to see the forest through
the trees!
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Brick Robbins
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 2:27 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Judge suspends horse packing in national
parks(Sequoia-Kings)
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Edward Anderson
<mendoridered at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> . As a Back Country Horseman, I volunteer many days each year working
on the trail. <
>
> While Mendo Rider takes this as a personal affront to horsemen, this
> lawsuit is not about horses, it is about commercial use of the
> national parks. Only ONE of the commercial uses is horse packing.
> Others affected "include back-country trips booked through REI,
> Outward Bound or any other commercial guide services."
>
> Just like Meno Rider attacks ANYTHING that might restrict horses, it
> seems many republicans blame Obama and "liberals" for anything that
> doesn't go their way.
>
> Whether or not Obama knows about this or legally could or would
> intervene, I'm not sure how a decision in legal battle in a federal
> court between the NPS and a Non Profit could be the president's fault,
> or why he would intervene even if he could.... Last I checked, judges
> don't work for the executive branch.
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