[pct-l] is iPhone 4s all I Need

Scott Zinda scottzinda at gmail.com
Tue Apr 3 12:55:13 CDT 2012


My Son just left on his Pacific Crest Trail through hike and he has two
cameras with him.  The iPhone 4s which he is using to upload his blog at
www.alexzinda.com  and an Olympus XZ-1 which I bought him for better
photos.  If you really want great photos that will stand the test of time I
say take point and shoot.  There are several waterproof, rugged, and light
ones here:  http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q311waterproofcompactgrouptest
 I love the iPhone and take tons of photos with it, but constantly notice
that cheap point and shoots out perform it for quality.  My sons Olympus
XZ-1 is probably not the best for him, but I bought because as a
photographer I like the full manual controls, and low light capabilities.
If I were doing the trail, an event of the lifetime, I would not leave it
to the iPhone for documentation, but that is just me.  Other great Choices
besides DSLR's, are the micro 4/3rds, and the new Canon G1X.  But if your
not a real techy photographer, I would get one of the waterproof ones in
the link I posted.  I would also consider the Canon S100.  Its not
waterproof, but it has manual controls and has a GPS built in to Geotag
your photos.

Scott
www.scottzinda.com

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>   1. Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need? (ruffwork)
>   2. log books (JoAnn)
>   3. Mileage calculations (JoAnn)
>   4. The Cactus Eaters (Mr. Los Angeles)
>   5. North350Blades Trailwork season Kick off Party (North 350 Blades)
>   6. An idea for QR Barcodes (Daren Eiri)
>   7. Oregon Southbound (Devon Taig)
>   8. Re: DSLR Camera (ned at mountaineducation.org)
>   9. Re: Oregon Southbound (Donna White)
>  10.  Oregon Southbound (nosirreeb)
>  11. Re: Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
>      (Scott "Squatch" Herriott)
>  12. Re: An idea for QR Barcodes (Prapanna Smith)
>  13. Re: Oregon Southbound (Diarmaid Harmon)
>  14. Re: DSLR Camera (treerings at gmail.com)
>  15. 75-year-old hiking the PCT lost for more than a week is
>      found... (SylviaEnder at aol.com)
>  16. Re: SOBO Planning (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
>  17. Re: Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need? (Gary Wright)
>  18. Re: Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need? (Tom Holz)
>  19. Re: Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need? (ruffwork)
>  20. Snow survey shows dry conditions (Tortoise)
>  21. Re: Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need? (Lisa Peru)
>  22. Re: Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need? (Tim)
>  23. Re: Snow survey shows dry conditions (Prapanna Smith)
>  24. Lost hiker found (Jonh Jones)
>  25. Opportunity to Collect Scientific Data While You Hike This
>      Year (Gregg Treinish)
>  26. Ice Axe and Spikes from Dunsmuir to Ashland in June?
>      (Brian Montgomery)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:20:36 -0700
> From: ruffwork <ruffwork at ruffwork.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <FA29B21F-BAEE-49AB-A764-62CA0E14A594 at ruffwork.com>
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>
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577305702578426084.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
>
> I'm going to try this: been planning to since I saw how good the iPhone 4S
> camera is.
> Not taking my Panasonic camera and case and charger and spare battery
> saves about 13 oz.
>
> ruffwork
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:39:42 -0700
> From: "JoAnn" <jomike at cot.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] log books
> To: <jape1 at cox.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <E0402A3A746E43E5833AA88B8BFA3D3E at JoAnnPC>
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>
> BTW, the guys I took up stopped at the post office to sign in the
> "official" log. They said it wasn't in there.
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> I hope the PCTA has it. Concern over the log books has come up before;
> unless the Association has changed, and I hope it has, there is no one
> assigned to keep track of and safe guard these pieces of these history.
>
> are we there yet
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:44:02 -0700
> From: "JoAnn" <jomike at cot.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Mileage calculations
> To: <donna2143 at cox.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <2BC45AA2F942459DA873F8727554B51B at JoAnnPC>
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>
> Purchase the PCT Guide Book for Or, and/or the Best Day Hikes in Oregon
> and Washington and/or, The PCT Data Book.
>
> All good books filled with everything you?ll need to know.
>
> are we there yet
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:56:18 -0500
> From: "Mr. Los Angeles" <mrlosangeless at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] The Cactus Eaters
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Just read *The Cactus Eaters* by Dan White.  Too bad he blew it with
> Allison.
>
> Which years did they start and finish?  I turned the book back in to the
> library and don't remember.
>
> Is there anyplace to view their PCT hike pics?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:58:28 -0700
> From: North 350 Blades <north350blades at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] North350Blades Trailwork season Kick off Party
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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> This is a reminder that we are having our Kick Off Party on April 7 at 5PM
> on Capitol Hill in Seattle to present our 2012 plans and have some fun with
> our fellow trail maintainers.
>
> Thanks to all those who have previously RSVP'd.
>
> For those who have not RSVP'd and want to attend, reply to this email and
> the location will be revealed by return email.
>
> We are loking forward to socializing with the folks in our PCT community.
>
> Jim and Dona
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>  *Photo is of Yakima Pass turnpike*
>
> Facebook : *North 350 Blades*
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:22:00 -0700
> From: Daren Eiri <dareneiri at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] An idea for QR Barcodes
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> Just came back from doing trail work in Section B. The last night brought
> us strong winds and some rain, which my friend and I were not prepared for
> (we went up without tents).
>
> Anyways, on the way back down to the water fountain, I thought about
> thru-hikers being able to use QR codes attached on the shoulder strap of
> their packs so people could exchange information more easily. You could use
> your phone, scan the barcode, and then instantly follow someone on twitter,
> or be redirected to their website!
>
> Here's one website that generates the code:
> http://delivr.com/qr-code-generator
>
> Here's a thread on BPL about using QR codes on trail signs:
>
> http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=49346
>
> The simplest way I could think would be to make a button with your QR code
> printed. Thoughts?? I searched my own emails to see if anyone brought this
> up already. Apologies if it has been!
>
> Daren
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:55:21 -0600
> From: Devon Taig <devon.taig at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Oregon Southbound
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> I'm planning a 5 week southbound trek across Oregon (border to border)
> beginning the last week of June.  I'm concerned about snow though in the
> Mt. Hood and Mt. Jefferson Wilderness area and am thinking I might need to
> change my plans a bit.  An option might be to start near Crater Lake then
> walk to California, then come back to the Oregon/Washington border and head
> south from there.  Does anyone have experience with snow issues through
> Oregon?
>
> River
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:45:12 -0700
> From: <ned at mountaineducation.org>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] DSLR Camera
> To: <treerings at gmail.com>,      "PCT Listserve" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <60B1A05BED9F40AB8C932BAC40B637F0 at PacificCrestPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>        reply-type=original
>
> This will probably be of no surprise to anyone who knows me as the "heavy
> trucker" that I commonly am, but on my 1974 thru I carried two Nikon F2
> bodies with three heavy lenses. I ran Kodachrome 24 slide film in one and
> B&W bulk roll film in the other. Sold the color prints up and down the west
> coast in photo galleries for a few years thereafter.
>
> I got used to the weight and the only trouble was keeping the cameras from
> falling off the top of my Kelty Tioga (one fell into and over a waterfall
> near the Rubicon during a creek crossing!).
>
>
>
> "Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
>
> Ned Tibbits, Director
> Mountain Education
> South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
>    P: 888-996-8333
>    F: 530-541-1456
>    C: 530-721-1551
>    http://www.mountaineducation.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <treerings at gmail.com>
> To: "PCT Listserve" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 2:22 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] DSLR Camera
>
>
> > Does anyone have experience carrying a heavy (16 oz) DSLR camera on the
> > PCT? The quality of photos is so much better than a point-and-shoot that
> > I've made up my mind I'm going to try it. Any advice, tips, etc would be
> > greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Treerings
> >
> > --
> > "All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy." -Spike
> > Milligan
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:51:45 -0500
> From: "Donna White"<donna2143 at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon Southbound
> To: "Devon Taig"<devon.taig at gmail.com>, Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> I worked at Crater Lake Lodge one summer and we still had snow in July. For
> those of you that hike thru. At what point do you consider snow to be too
> much.  I have also hike at Ranier in mod July with quite of snow still on
> the ground but wouldn't want to do it for days.
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Devon Taig <devon.taig at gmail.com>
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Sent: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 18:55:21 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [pct-l] Oregon Southbound
>
> I'm planning a 5 week southbound trek across Oregon (border to border)
> beginning the last week of June.  I'm concerned about snow though in the
> Mt. Hood and Mt. Jefferson Wilderness area and am thinking I might need to
> change my plans a bit.  An option might be to start near Crater Lake then
> walk to California, then come back to the Oregon/Washington border and head
> south from there.  Does anyone have experience with snow issues through
> Oregon?
>
> River
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:01:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: nosirreeb <nosirreeb at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Oregon Southbound
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> You can monitor Oregon snow levels here:
> http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snotel/Oregon/oregon.html
>
> At the Annie Springs site (South entrance of Crater Lake NP) in 2011, the
> snow lasted until the second week of July ... in 2010 until last week of
> June. This is at 6,000 ft elevation and the trail goes above 7,000 ft both
> in and south of the park where, presumably, the snow is deeper and lasts
> longer. The Rim Road drive in the park typically opens to auto traffic in
> early to mid July. This is to say that the end of June might be dicey even
> in this area.
>
> A better bet might be to head south from where the PCT crosses Hwy 140
> near Fish Lake as the elevations are a little lower.
>
> >I'm planning a 5 week southbound trek across Oregon (border to border)
> beginning
>
> >the last week of June.  I'm concerned about snow though in the
> Mt. Hood and Mt.
>
> >Jefferson Wilderness area and am thinking I might need to
> change my plans a bit.
>
> >An option might be to start near Crater Lake then
> walk to California, then come
>
> >back to the Oregon/Washington border and head
> south from there.  Does anyone
>
> >have experience with snow issues through
> Oregon?
>
> >River
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:58:22 -0700
> From: "Scott \"Squatch\" Herriott" <yetifan7 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
> To: ruffwork <ruffwork at ruffwork.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>        <CAE+nFzK6w2+u=e7gbRXTFaQu_=SBpEa1fcozct1b1XFS2uKCzw at mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I used my IPhone4 for still photos on the A.T. last year and thought it
> rocked the house. Highly recommend the Hipstamatic app for it.
>
>
> Squatch
> www.squatchfilms.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:20 AM, ruffwork <ruffwork at ruffwork.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577305702578426084.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
> >
> > I'm going to try this: been planning to since I saw how good the iPhone
> 4S
> > camera is.
> > Not taking my Panasonic camera and case and charger and spare battery
> > saves about 13 oz.
> >
> > ruffwork
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:17:40 -0700
> From: Prapanna Smith <prapanna.smith at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] An idea for QR Barcodes
> To: Daren Eiri <dareneiri at gmail.com>
> Cc: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <25EC72BF-B9A2-404A-8E8B-AF01E821E41B at gmail.com>
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>
> What a great idea.  Just got my code and will use it to direct people to
> my FB page.
>
> Dr. Prapanna
>
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Daren Eiri wrote:
>
> > Just came back from doing trail work in Section B. The last night brought
> > us strong winds and some rain, which my friend and I were not prepared
> for
> > (we went up without tents).
> >
> > Anyways, on the way back down to the water fountain, I thought about
> > thru-hikers being able to use QR codes attached on the shoulder strap of
> > their packs so people could exchange information more easily. You could
> use
> > your phone, scan the barcode, and then instantly follow someone on
> twitter,
> > or be redirected to their website!
> >
> > Here's one website that generates the code:
> > http://delivr.com/qr-code-generator
> >
> > Here's a thread on BPL about using QR codes on trail signs:
> >
> http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=49346
> >
> > The simplest way I could think would be to make a button with your QR
> code
> > printed. Thoughts?? I searched my own emails to see if anyone brought
> this
> > up already. Apologies if it has been!
> >
> > Daren
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:08:05 -0700
> From: Diarmaid Harmon <irishharmon at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon Southbound
> To: Devon Taig <devon.taig at gmail.com>
> Cc: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <F2435CA6-EDE1-4841-A0FD-D6FD12A13C72 at comcast.net>
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> It will really depend on what we get for the remainder of the snow year.
> So far it looks to be
> a normal snow year but that could still change. The PCT shares part of
> trail 600 around Mt Hood
> and that section did open up in mid to late june. However the north side
> of the mountain never cleared
> out. As most of the trail is below the timberline you should have little
> or no trouble unless the
> snow picks up again. Late spring snow storms are a real possibility.
>
> Hiking Irish.
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Devon Taig wrote:
>
> > I'm planning a 5 week southbound trek across Oregon (border to border)
> > beginning the last week of June.  I'm concerned about snow though in the
> > Mt. Hood and Mt. Jefferson Wilderness area and am thinking I might need
> to
> > change my plans a bit.  An option might be to start near Crater Lake then
> > walk to California, then come back to the Oregon/Washington border and
> head
> > south from there.  Does anyone have experience with snow issues through
> > Oregon?
> >
> > River
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:59:46 -0700
> From: treerings at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] DSLR Camera
> To: PCT Listserve <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Thank you all for your input. It helps a lot. I'm going to use a
> Black-Rapid type of sling (which attaches to the tripod mount on the
> camera) for morning and evening hours, otherwise I'll stow the camera away.
> I don't see how it can handle several weeks of pounding. I recently
> purchased Canon's EOS Rebel Ti2 and I will never be able to go back to
> point and shoot. It's opened a fascinating new world and relationship with
> the outdoors. Using a DSLR camera with a 135 mm zoom and wide angle is like
> suddenly emerging into the Technicolor Land of Oz, but with no going back.
>
> -Treerings
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, <ned at mountaineducation.org> wrote:
>
> > This will probably be of no surprise to anyone who knows me as the "heavy
> > trucker" that I commonly am, but on my 1974 thru I carried two Nikon F2
> > bodies with three heavy lenses. I ran Kodachrome 24 slide film in one and
> > B&W bulk roll film in the other. Sold the color prints up and down the
> west
> > coast in photo galleries for a few years thereafter.
> >
> > I got used to the weight and the only trouble was keeping the cameras
> from
> > falling off the top of my Kelty Tioga (one fell into and over a waterfall
> > near the Rubicon during a creek crossing!).
> >
> >
> >
> > "Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
> >
> > Ned Tibbits, Director
> > Mountain Education
> > South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
> >   P: 888-996-8333
> >   F: 530-541-1456
> >   C: 530-721-1551
> >   http://www.mountaineducation.**org <http://www.mountaineducation.org>
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <treerings at gmail.com>
> > To: "PCT Listserve" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 2:22 PM
> > Subject: [pct-l] DSLR Camera
> >
> >
> >  Does anyone have experience carrying a heavy (16 oz) DSLR camera on the
> >> PCT? The quality of photos is so much better than a point-and-shoot that
> >> I've made up my mind I'm going to try it. Any advice, tips, etc would be
> >> greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Treerings
> >>
> >> --
> >> "All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy." -Spike
> >> Milligan
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> Milligan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:00:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: SylviaEnder at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] 75-year-old hiking the PCT lost for more than a week
>        is      found...
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> _http://www.mydesert.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012120401010_
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:35:23 -0700
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] SOBO Planning
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Since you want to start in mid-June why not start at Kennedy Meadows
> and hike NOBO with the herd. Then go back to Kennedy Meadows and hike
> SOBO. So Cal is nice in the fall. Or if the snow isn't too bad in Nor
> Cal, start in Sierra City and go north, then flip back and go south.
>
> Diane
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Due to the responses I received after asking about starting SOBO
> > June 19th
> > this year, I have decided to push back my start date a week and
> > flip flop
> > Washington and Oregon. I was wondering if anyone could give me
> > advice on
> > whether or not this will hopefully solve some of the problems I
> > would face
> > this year heading southbound with the large amount of snow still in
> > the
> > Cascades.
> >
> > My plan is to possibly hike from Ashland northbound to Manning
> > Park, then
> > fly from Vancouver back to Ashland and make my way south through
> > California
> > to Mexico. Is this a viable alternative to a strict southbound thru-
> > hike in
> > this time frame? I would reach Manning Park in mid August. After
> > starting
> > again in California, I would be through Kennedy Meadows by mid-October
> > which is pushing it in terms of when I would need to be out of the
> > Sierras.
> >
> > Any advice on how I could accomplish my thru-hike with my timetable of
> > starting mid-June at the earliest would be very welcome and helpful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Court
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:07:36 -0400
> From: Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
> To: ruffwork <ruffwork at ruffwork.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:20 PM, ruffwork wrote:
>
> >
> >
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577305702578426084.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
> >
> > I'm going to try this: been planning to since I saw how good the iPhone
> 4S camera is.
> > Not taking my Panasonic camera and case and charger and spare battery
> saves about 13 oz.
>
> I'd be concerned with the battery life. You could turn it on and off when
> you want to take pictures but it takes way to long to power up to be
> practical I think.  While the picture quality of the 4S is quite good I
> think that in actual use, you would be better off with a dedicated camera.
>
> Radar
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:21:20 -0400
> From: Tom Holz <tom.holz at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Smartphones can chew through batteries real quick, especially when the
> GPS receiver is on or the phone is searching for a cell tower.  I even
> carried an external battery pack for my iPhone to be safe, and I also
> kept it in airplane mode during the day so the camera was easy to bring
> up, avoided apps and GPS, and turned it off at night.  In the whole
> course of my thru hike, I think my iPhone 3GS ran out of battery only
> two or three times on the trail.
>
> One of my regrets is not pulling out that phone more to record stupid
> little video clips of life on the trail..  those would have been so much
> fun to rediscover in twenty years.
>
> Bigfoot
>
>
> On 4/2/2012 10:07 PM, Gary Wright wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:20 PM, ruffwork wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577305702578426084.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
> >>
> >> I'm going to try this: been planning to since I saw how good the iPhone
> 4S camera is.
> >> Not taking my Panasonic camera and case and charger and spare battery
> saves about 13 oz.
> >
> > I'd be concerned with the battery life. You could turn it on and off
> when you want to take pictures but it takes way to long to power up to be
> practical I think.  While the picture quality of the 4S is quite good I
> think that in actual use, you would be better off with a dedicated camera.
> >
> > Radar
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:30:35 -0700
> From: ruffwork <ruffwork at ruffwork.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
> To: Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> True, biggest problem with any smart phone.  I'm using it for my universal
> pal so I have lots of batteries for it...
> GPS/Phone/Kindle/camera/etc...
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Gary Wright wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:20 PM, ruffwork wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577305702578426084.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
> >>
> >> I'm going to try this: been planning to since I saw how good the iPhone
> 4S camera is.
> >> Not taking my Panasonic camera and case and charger and spare battery
> saves about 13 oz.
> >
> > I'd be concerned with the battery life. You could turn it on and off
> when you want to take pictures but it takes way to long to power up to be
> practical I think.  While the picture quality of the 4S is quite good I
> think that in actual use, you would be better off with a dedicated camera.
> >
> > Radar
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:35:19 -0700
> From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Snow survey shows dry conditions
> To: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> California's April snow survey is in and the news is bad for our water
> supply but probably good for hikers. There's only about half the normal
> snow pack and lots, lots less than last year.
> --
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/02/BAPH1NTMOA.DTL
>
> --
> Tortoise
>
> Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution
> inevitable
> President John F Kennedy,  1962
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:31:35 -0400
> From: Lisa Peru <lisaperu2011 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
> To: Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>,    ruffwork
>        <ruffwork at ruffwork.com>
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> I keep my 4S in airplane mode and get three days per charge, all the pix I
> want. I also carry a New Trent battery at 6 oz that gets me three more full
> charges. That's 12 days in airplane mode. I do not turn the phone off so as
> not to miss pix. However, there is a problem with having all your eggs in
> one basket.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:20 PM, ruffwork wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577305702578426084.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
> >>
> >> I'm going to try this: been planning to since I saw how good the iPhone
> 4S camera is.
> >> Not taking my Panasonic camera and case and charger and spare battery
> saves about 13 oz.
> >
> > I'd be concerned with the battery life. You could turn it on and off
> when you want to take pictures but it takes way to long to power up to be
> practical I think.  While the picture quality of the 4S is quite good I
> think that in actual use, you would be better off with a dedicated camera.
> >
> > Radar
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:37:23 -0500
> From: Tim <tim1ness at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Is the iPhone 4S the only camera you need?
> To: Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>,    ruffwork
>        <ruffwork at ruffwork.com>
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> Is the quality of the 4S camera any different than the 4?  I am do for an
> upgrade and will do it if the camera is any better.
>
> OneStep
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Gary Wright <gwtmp01 at mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:20 PM, ruffwork wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577305702578426084.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
> >>
> >> I'm going to try this: been planning to since I saw how good the iPhone
> 4S camera is.
> >> Not taking my Panasonic camera and case and charger and spare battery
> saves about 13 oz.
> >
> > I'd be concerned with the battery life. You could turn it on and off
> when you want to take pictures but it takes way to long to power up to be
> practical I think.  While the picture quality of the 4S is quite good I
> think that in actual use, you would be better off with a dedicated camera.
> >
> > Radar
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:48:32 -0700
> From: Prapanna Smith <prapanna.smith at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Snow survey shows dry conditions
> To: Tortoise73 at charter.net
> Cc: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Given these numbers, it may be possible to enter the High Sierra out of
> Kennedy
> Meadows early this year.  For those who make it there in time it is not
> inconceivable
> to start the High Sierra in late May or early June.
>
> Prapanna
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Tortoise wrote:
>
> > California's April snow survey is in and the news is bad for our water
> > supply but probably good for hikers. There's only about half the normal
> > snow pack and lots, lots less than last year.
> > --
> >
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/02/BAPH1NTMOA.DTL
> >
> > --
> > Tortoise
> >
> > Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
> revolution inevitable
> > President John F Kennedy,  1962
> >
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> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:43:06 -0500
> From: Jonh Jones <jnhjns925 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Lost hiker found
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. (AP) -- A 75-year-old experienced hiker lost in
> Southern California mountains for more than a week has been found in good
> condition.
>
> San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Bachman says John Hurgner
> of Fredericksburg, TX  was found Sunday night in the Big Bear Lake area.
>
> The Desert Sun of Palm Springs says Hurgner was hiking along a section of
> the 2,663-mile Pacific Crest Trail in the San Bernardino Mountains. He
> failed to reach his checkpoint on March 22 at a Motel 6 in San Bernardino.
>
> His wife reported him missing on Sunday morning and Riverside and San
> Bernardino county authorities began a search.
>
> He was found in good health about eight hours later.
>
> Bachman says he apparently wandered off the trail and got lost. Hurgner had
> food, appropriate clothing and other tools that allowed him to survive.
>
>
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>
> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:22:19 -0600
> From: Gregg Treinish <gregg at adventureandscience.org>
> Subject: [pct-l] Opportunity to Collect Scientific Data While You Hike
>        This    Year
> To: larkin <larkin at adventureandscience.org>
> Cc: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> Dear Thru-Hikers,
>
> Have you have ever been out hiking and felt like you wanted to do more with
> your time, you know that nagging selfish feeling like you should be doing
> something beneficial for the world?
>
> Adventurers and Scientists for Conservation is asking you to collect data
> on Pika while you hike this year.
>
> Visit our website at www.adventureandscience.org/pika.html to learn how
> you
> can participate.
> Last year more than 40 hikers gathered data for us while hiking the PCT.
>  We want 100 this year!
>
> If Pika don't interest you, we have other projects as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Gregg Treinish (BUM)
> AT NOBO 04
> 2008 National Geographic Adventurer of the Year
> www.adventurescience.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:43:30 +0900
> From: Brian Montgomery <bmontgomery746 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Ice Axe and Spikes from Dunsmuir to Ashland in June?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I have day hiked sections of the PCT over the years and I am thinking about
> doing a thru hike in the coming years.  As a "see how it goes" hike, I am
> planning to do a section from Dunsmuir to Ashland from June 20 or so to
> July 5 or so of this year.  I've found the snow reporting site:
>
> http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/mapper?level=2&map=03&quad=15
>
> Snow pack is around 75% of normal this year. I wouldn't worry about it
> except that I will be going through earlier than most thru hikers.  So,
> what do you think?  Should I worry about an Ice Axe and spikes or what?
>  How much snow should I be thinking I'll be running into?  What questions
> should I be asking that I'm not?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Starman
>
>
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