[pct-l] Food Bags --bears

[Paul Robison]

Chuck beat me to it...

Where we live the bears are terrified of humans because standard practice is still to shoot them.

We had a bear get habituated to our trash... And EVERY. Day would tear our compost pile apart eating the waste... Eventually it would come down in broad daylight and rummage... And after that it got into our coop and killed 60 chickens... And tore up our fruit trees...

Once bears know we mean easy food;  you HAVE to kill it or it will tell all it's friends.  This doesn't happen in yosemeti  so the bears just keep stalking humans and teaching their kids to do so.

Only time I ever felt really threatened by a bear was one who had lost it's butt plug before the freeze was over... and came after me while fishing ... It was starved...  And one time when I got between a mom and cubs while berry picking

Question,  do the bears in California still hibernate for 6 months?  The bears here when they hibernate construct out of leaves and whatnot these plugs they put in their anus to stop their digestive process... And facilitate hibernation.  If that comes out they must immediately eat or they will die... If it comes out and we get a late foot of snow;  is when bear attacks happen.


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On 2011-03-25, at 11:01 PM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:

> Good evening, Gery,
> 
> The entire PCT corridor is “bear country”, with probably a good many more in
> population than you would ever guess.  “Bear country” isn’t the problem; the
> problem is “habituated-bear country”, i.e, where lots of tourists – and
> other irresponsible campers – have let bears get into people-food, and
> henceforth into a life of crime, sometimes for several generations.
> 
> The big California National Parks are great at not only attracting lots of
> visitors, but they also ban hunting.  N. California, Oregon, and Washington
> allow hunting so bears have learned over the last 12,000 years to keep their
> heads down when they encounter humans.
> 
> Steel-Eye
> 
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965
> 
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Gerry Zamora <gerry0625 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So if not in a area with bears is it relatively safe to just leave your
>> food in your pack and leave your pack in your tent?  Sounds like a few
>> people use this method with out any issues while out of bear country of
>> course.
>> Gerry0625
>> On Mar 25, 2011 1:50 PM, "Ate Tuna" <atetuna at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have had a mouse not only try to get into my food in that exact
>> situation,
>>> but had it succeed even though I shooed it away multiple times during the
>>> night...and I thought the rain and high winds that night would surely
>> blow
>>> that critter off the side of the mountain. I was wrong.
>>> 
>>> Now I use a regular Ursack all the time. An Ursack was good enough to
>>> protect my food when I left it on Apache Peak when I left the trail for a
>>> week to attend kickoff. I haven't use an Opsak, but I agree with those
>> that
>>> think I should.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:02 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I’ve never had lil' critters try to get into my food when it’s lying on
>> the
>>>> ground at the head of my bed -- and that’s while sleeping under the
>> stars.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:29 PM, <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just curious what people are using for food bags to keep the critters
>>>> out,
>>>>> other than at bear vault areas. Ursack, wire mesh bag, just hang it
>> etc.
>>>>> ???
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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