[pct-l] first night out

Thu Mar 17 12:19:30 CDT 2011

There we go that's what I was waiting for... lol my bad I forgot to end my
last post correctly.  Thank you yogi.   Oh and HYOH, YMMV,IMHO yada yada
yada....
Gerry0625
On Mar 17, 2011 10:11 AM, "Eric" <johner27 at evergreen.edu> wrote:
> /drippingsarcasm.
>
> Hahahaha! Seriously though, don't take a gun. Especially if you don't have
a
> concealed carry permit.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
> www.primalpct.com
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com
>wrote:
>
>> Yep, I pack a gun. In fact, I always have one attached to my hip belt,
>> plus
>> a backup strapped around my ankle.
>>
>> yogi
>> www.pcthandbook.com
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Gerry Zamora <gerry0625 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just wondering does anyone bring a gun? Wild life is not a concern but
>> > people that's another story.
>> > On Mar 17, 2011 9:31 AM, "Ron Dye" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
>> > > Chuck,
>> > >
>> > > Your advice is sound. In 2008 Robocop camped between the border and
>> Lake
>> > > Morena. He was off-trail and during the night nobody bothered him.
But,
>> > at
>> > > first light, the illegals came to his camp and opened his tent flap
to
>> > see
>> > > what he had. Keep in mind, they didn't just start their trip and they
>> > were
>> > > looking for food, water and possibly money - which all hikers will
have
>> > with
>> > > them.
>> > >
>> > > Ron
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
>> > pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>> > > On Behalf Of Kevin
>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:36 AM
>> > > To: CHUCK CHELIN
>> > > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; shelly skye
>> > > Subject: Re: [pct-l] first night out
>> > >
>> > > Use one of the start date lists (here or postholer) to determine if
>> > anyone
>> > > is starting when you do. Maybe you can convince another hiker to take
>> an
>> > > easy first day also. Even if they start early, you could night hike a
>> > couple
>> > > hours and still cover several miles. I have no intention of making it
>> to
>> > > lake morena on day 1. Hauser Creek seems like a good goal, but if
there
>> > is
>> > > no water there, I may just camp on the ridge above it.
>> > >
>> > > See you on the trail! :)
>> > >
>> > > Misspellings and typos brought to you by iPhone.
>> > >
>> > > On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Good morning, Shelly,
>> > >>
>> > >> I avoid camping anywhere between the border and Lake Morena due to
the
>> > > high
>> > >> probability of encountering illegal aliens. I've encountered a dozen
>> or
>> > > so
>> > >> non English-speaking people with little or no gear walking on the
PCT
>> or
>> > >> loitering in the area, particularly in the "shelter" of the timber
in
>> > > Hauser
>> > >> Creek Canyon. They've never given me the least problem, but I'm a
guy
>> > and
>> > >> the encounters were in broad daylight, and with numerous other PCT
>> > hikers
>> > > in
>> > >> the area.
>> > >>
>> > >> I don't think the prevalence of Border Patrol vehicles and
helicopters
>> > in
>> > >> the area is because they have nothing else better to do, nor do I
>> think
>> > > they
>> > >> provide sufficient deterrent/protection. It may, and probably will
be,
>> > >> reasonably safe to camp in that stretch but I don't choose to
>> encourage
>> > > the
>> > >> risk.
>> > >>
>> > >> A day's hike north of Lake Morena the risk is very much reduced; in
my
>> > >> opinion to near-zero.
>> > >>
>> > >> If I though I simply must overnight in the area I would inquire if I
>> > could
>> > >> pitch somewhere close to locals in or around Campo.
>> > >>
>> > >> Steel-Eye
>> > >>
>> > >> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT - 1965
>> > >>
>> > >> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
>> > >>
>> > >> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:16 AM, shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> HI all. I am searching for an opinion or two, or more should it
come
>> to
>> > >>> that... It appears I will be getting a late start the day I leave
>> Campo
>> > > and
>> > >>> am wondering if the small seasonal creek 4.2 miles in is a safe
place
>> > to
>> > >>> bed
>> > >>> down for the night. I'll have plenty of water so that won't be an
>> > issue,
>> > >>> I'm
>> > >>> just wondering how safe it is to park myself there for the night.
>> Solo
>> > >>> woman
>> > >>> and all. Or if not, any other ideas about what would be safer?
Thanks
>> > for
>> > >>> your help!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Shelly
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "We are not lost. We are searching alternative destinations."
>> > >>> Unknown author
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