[pct-l] first night out

[Jackie McDonnell]

Yep, I pack a gun.  In fact, I always have one attached to my hip belt, plus
a backup strapped around my ankle.

yogi
www.pcthandbook.com

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Gerry Zamora <gerry0625 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just wondering does anyone bring a gun?  Wild life is not a concern but
> people that's another story.
> On Mar 17, 2011 9:31 AM, "Ron Dye" <chiefcowboy at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Your advice is sound. In 2008 Robocop camped between the border and Lake
> > Morena. He was off-trail and during the night nobody bothered him. But,
> at
> > first light, the illegals came to his camp and opened his tent flap to
> see
> > what he had. Keep in mind, they didn't just start their trip and they
> were
> > looking for food, water and possibly money - which all hikers will have
> with
> > them.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
> pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> > On Behalf Of Kevin
> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:36 AM
> > To: CHUCK CHELIN
> > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; shelly skye
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] first night out
> >
> > Use one of the start date lists (here or postholer) to determine if
> anyone
> > is starting when you do. Maybe you can convince another hiker to take an
> > easy first day also. Even if they start early, you could night hike a
> couple
> > hours and still cover several miles. I have no intention of making it to
> > lake morena on day 1. Hauser Creek seems like a good goal, but if there
> is
> > no water there, I may just camp on the ridge above it.
> >
> > See you on the trail! :)
> >
> > Misspellings and typos brought to you by iPhone.
> >
> > On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Good morning, Shelly,
> >>
> >> I avoid camping anywhere between the border and Lake Morena due to the
> > high
> >> probability of encountering illegal aliens. I've encountered a dozen or
> > so
> >> non English-speaking people with little or no gear walking on the PCT or
> >> loitering in the area, particularly in the "shelter" of the timber in
> > Hauser
> >> Creek Canyon. They've never given me the least problem, but I'm a guy
> and
> >> the encounters were in broad daylight, and with numerous other PCT
> hikers
> > in
> >> the area.
> >>
> >> I don't think the prevalence of Border Patrol vehicles and helicopters
> in
> >> the area is because they have nothing else better to do, nor do I think
> > they
> >> provide sufficient deterrent/protection. It may, and probably will be,
> >> reasonably safe to camp in that stretch but I don't choose to encourage
> > the
> >> risk.
> >>
> >> A day's hike north of Lake Morena the risk is very much reduced; in my
> >> opinion to near-zero.
> >>
> >> If I though I simply must overnight in the area I would inquire if I
> could
> >> pitch somewhere close to locals in or around Campo.
> >>
> >> Steel-Eye
> >>
> >> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT - 1965
> >>
> >> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
> >>
> >> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:16 AM, shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> HI all. I am searching for an opinion or two, or more should it come to
> >>> that... It appears I will be getting a late start the day I leave Campo
> > and
> >>> am wondering if the small seasonal creek 4.2 miles in is a safe place
> to
> >>> bed
> >>> down for the night. I'll have plenty of water so that won't be an
> issue,
> >>> I'm
> >>> just wondering how safe it is to park myself there for the night. Solo
> >>> woman
> >>> and all. Or if not, any other ideas about what would be safer? Thanks
> for
> >>> your help!
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Shelly
> >>>
> >>> "We are not lost. We are searching alternative destinations."
> >>> Unknown author
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